People whom blindly support the Bush Gang are Traitors

[Homer12]

People whom blindly support the GOP and Bush and his Gang are un-american, traitors, lack any and all ethics and morals, and have know right to call themselves Americans.

These people are destroying are country, and most of them don't even know it. If they do, they are worse than scum.

The Right-Wing is at war with us, for some it is a holy war, for other's it's a war to get back political and monetary power back from the massess, since they beleive it is their birth-right.

This is out-rage and anger. We must fight back with humor, anger, convition, ethics, common-sense, and itellegance, becuase if we don't they will steam-roll over all opposition in a race to re-create our country and the world.

[DenverDem]

1. You are correct, sir. It's called willful ignorance

and it is treason.

[neoteric lefty]

2. So backers and members of the Republican party

should be hanged? Generalizations like this are powerful statements that are almost never correct. We really need to be careful about labeling 40% of our country as traitors. I agree that Bush and Co. have circumvented our constitution many times, but to call everyone who supports him a traitor is dangerous and plain wrong. We are better than Ann Coulter, aren't we?

edit: I do like your last point. It is our job to "right the wrongs", so-to-speak.

[Homer12]

5. I said "people who blindly support"

I never mentioned hanging, nor did I mention capital punishment, nor would I.

If it really is %40 of out nation that does blindly support Bush, then I doubt if we'd even be able to have this conversation.

Is "blind unquestioning support" for what is teh most criminal administration in US history, much different than being a traitor, since "In my View" the Bush administration has committed crimes against the constitution?

[bryant69]

8. Treason is a crime

It is a serious crime and it is punishable by death. TO use the word treason or traitor is to reference that crime. You could have used other terms that do not have legal meanings. You chose to use this one.

You've got every right to call for the deaths of hundreds of thousands of republicans; same as Ann Coulter has the right to call for our death. And like Ann Coulter you can act coy and pretend like that's not really what you mean.

Besides is there really any difference between a person who "blindly" supports Bush and someone who is planning on voting for him?

Bryant
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[neoteric lefty]

12. Treason is crime, punishable by death in most cases

but not always, so I apologize. You lumped both "blind supporters" and not-so "blind" ones together with your post:

"People whom blindly support the GOP and Bush and his Gang are un-american, traitors, lack any and all ethics and morals, and have know right to call themselves Americans.

These people are destroying are country, and most of them don't even know it. If they do, they are worse than scum."

and at least 40% of the voting public will vote for Bush this year primarily because they support him. For the non-voters, who cares about those lazy asses. Blind support is much different than treason because the supporter is blind to what the government has done. They don't hear it on CNN, MSNBC, or FOX. They don't read it in mainstream newspapers. They are blind to the crimes, so YES, there is a big difference. It is our job as citizens to inform and decide.

[olddem43]

6. Right, we are better. Most people who vote Rep

are just ignorant and or misinformed. They have basically bought their crap. Nothing short of a complete education would help many of them. Too bad.

[Kanary]

3. "We must fight back...." Is that why I get blasted on DU for taking

action?

We're too scared to take it where it belongs, so we eat our own.

How very courageous of us.....

Kanary

[neoteric lefty]

13. huh?

please elaborate on how you get "blasted for taking action"...

[Kanary]

20. Read this thread....

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_topic&forum=104&topic_id=2027866#2028003?az=show_topic&forum=104&topic_id=2027866

Read response #6.

That's just the latest example, and the one that just happened to me.

This is the kind of crap that happens here all the time.

We're eating our own, and enjoying the meal.

We're our OWN WORST ENEMIES.

Kanary

[bryant69]

21. So everytime you do anything you expect applause?

Or aren't we allowed to think that adopting tactics simlar to those adopted by our enemies is a bad idea.

You can see this as eating our dead; i see it as valuable self criticism. I get criticized all the time for being too moderate; and some of those criticisms sting and some of them I think are unfair. But I recognize that it probably does help keep me honest; perhaps you should take those who would criticize you in the same manner.

Bryant
Check it out --> http://politicalcomment.blogspot.com

[Kanary]

22. Hey, good way to stomp a person, eh?

Just to prove your own self-righteousness.......

Good luck, next time you want someone to take action on YOUR ISSUES.

For myself, you can STUFF IT.

bye now........

[bryant69]

24. I can STUFF IT?

Good comeback.

I don't need anybody to take action on MY ISSUES. I can take it myself as I see fit.

For example UNNECESSARY CAPITALIZATION is very annoying.

But feel free to feel sorry for yourself, since it seems like that is what you are going to do.

[RummyTheDummy]

23. I tend to agree

We are morally superior to the Repugs. I don't think anyone here thinks otherwise. But sometimes because of that we get people who want to play nice and not resort to dirty tricks of our own.

My feeling is we have to play on their level to win. We have to be able to spring shit on them like they spring on us. The Berger deal may ultimately prove to be a prime example of that. Otherwise you tend to get run over.

It's regrettable, but it is what it is.

[donkeyotay]

19. I know what you mean

"We're too scared to take it where it belongs, so we eat our own."

I think the right is counting on being able to continue to intimidate the left, and the left is SO good at self-criticism. I completely understood Homer12's point. So what if it was blunt?

[blm]

4. I agree.

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[atreides1]

7. I Agree With You

But there are some here who won't, they believe that talking is still
a viable method.

They could be right, and I'm sure that talking is working to some degree, but I don't think it's working where it would do the most good.

The media still shrills for BushCo and their corporate masters pull all of the strings. There is no such thing as "fairness" in reporting
stories. A good example is the reports on Sandy Berger, Keli Arena says that an anonymous sourece told her that they saw Mr. Berger stuffing papers into his socks, now this hasn't been proven, but it didn't stop CNN from reporting it like it was a fact.

But when the Abu Ghraib incident came to light the same media didn't report it because they were asked by General Myers to keep a lid on it. And when CBS decided to finally report the story it was only because some photos had been put on the internet and CBS didn't want to be scooped. So they finally released the story, not because it was the right thing to do and to inform the American people of what US soldiers were doing, no because they were afraid of being beaten by information that was coming out on the internet.

I my opinion those that support this administration are not patriots, they are nationalists, just like those who supported Hitler in his rise to power. They no longer regard the Constitution as the living document that it is, to them it is just an obstacle that is in their way.

But at least you have one other person who agrees with your assessment.

[Homer12]

9. Nationalists

You are right, they are more like Nationalists. I will try to view it more like that.

[genius]

10. Absolutely true.

[RummyTheDummy]

11. Exactly

Which is why Kerry MUST set up re-education camps for those who hate america once he is elected. I'll be glad to volunteer my services to forcibly remove Repukes from their homes and put them on buses.

In the camps, they would be made to be nice to their fellow americans and more tolerant of gays and the so called "abortionists". A religion de-programming course would also be part of this program.


:evilgrin:

[neoteric lefty]

16. If I didn't know any better,

I would say there is a bit of sarcasm in the air. Or I should hope so.

[RummyTheDummy]

18. Sarcasm?

Yeah. Mainly sarcasm. But also a shred of wishful thinking. If only it weren't so unconstitutional.....

You have to admit it might do some of the more hard core neocons some good though. I envision it more of a summer camp than a gulag.

[Solly Mack]

14. Blindly or otherwise..traitors all

[proud patriot]

15. I call them Cowards

Cowards willing to Sacrafice freedom out of FEAR
of terrorism , Cowards all of them.

[Joanne98]

17. I wish this was true but it's not

This is out-rage and anger. We must fight back with humor, anger, convition, ethics, common-sense, and itellegance, becuase if we don't they will steam-roll over all opposition in a race to re-create our country and the world.

George W Bush has committed several acts of treason, starting with stealing the election. Stand up and fight back or sit down and shut up. If you can do it now you never will. It's only going to get harder.

[Homer12]

25. Treason, I'm not Ann Coulter, I'm much prettier

I'm not adpoting Coulter tactics, If I was I would say that all "blind followers of Bush" should be executed and plains should crash into their houses.

I agree we can't adopt all their tactics, but we have to fight back, trying to argue and reason, obviously does not work with the ignorant and corrupt on the right. the only way these partisians respond to is Anger and Out-rage, fuled by hatred of those they don;t agree with.

If you don't think the zealotus extreme American taliban right-wing is in this game to win, and win at all costs, then you are wrong. A good portion of fundies "beleive" Bush was appoitned by GOD, he himself think's he was as well.

If it's not treason to blindly support the most criminal, un-ethical, morally bankrupt, administration in history that trashes the consitiution and bill of rights as every corner, then I don't know what it is.

I see know reason why, we on the left, can't think that this corrupt behavior is not treason.

Then what is it?

[katym]

26. I'd rather fight with intelligence and conviction....

than intellegance and convition. You need to 'know' right to assualt the senses with illiteracy. It's 'our' country, I 'believe', and although I do not like conservatives and/or republicans, blindly being against Bush does not do the nation any good either.

[Homer12]

27. thanks for the personal slam

I'll check my spelling more often to stop you from flaming me.

Would you like to make more peronsal attacks?

Tell me how I am reacting "blindly" against Bush?