My IRISH is up....is yours?

[wadestock]

You might guess by the name....
Which is really a creation out of 20 years in a band together with a number of "woodstocks" we've created over the years....

It was last nite watching O'Liely that I really wanted to put my fist through the TV. I think I've just about it with him and Hannity....now Hanity in the news sucking up to Rumsfeld.

http://www.therationalradical.com/talk_shows/sean-hannity.htm
and plenty others have exposed some of the direct lying antics of these guys....

So I'm wondering to myself...what exactly is going here?

Yes I've embellished and written here many times now about the religious right wing morph with the neocons....
Turns out you can better gage whether a person votes republican now by the # of times he/she goes to church rather than income level (of course this could in fact make sense as we all shrink in relative income levels).

But I look at my family....many hard core Irish Catholics...and not a one is a Bush supporter.....they seem to have no problem seeing through the BS.

So I'm really wondering if this is Murdock or other handpicking a "fightin Irish" approach or other sense of having ideals that they might bring to the right wing side. Personally, I believe at this point Hannity has a good chance to take over Rush's number 1 job because he's got 10 times the personality and is capable of functioning effectively in public.

You have no idea just how pissed off this gets me.....and how much I want to put my hands around Hannity's neck.

[GreenPartyVoter]

1. My Irish is up, too.

Even my life-long Repub Nana, who could not stand the Kennedys, is not voting for * this time around.

[Warpy]

2. I've also looked at all the Irish names with dismay

and often wondered if they didn't all come from Traveller stock. Although I have known a few Irish true believers who swalowed the Pope's line on matters he knows nothing about hook line and sinker, I have never known one to swallow the kind of garbage Bush and his right wing fluffer squad are trying to ram down our throats.

My advice to you is to turn off these enemies of the Irish and of people in general. Take a walk, listen to good music, rent a movie, read a book.

Continuing to watch this rubbish will only make you start hating, just the way they want you to.

[LisaM]

3. Irish-Catholic Democrat checking in....

Hannity and O'Reilly seem weird to me, too. I never heard of such a thing as an Irish-Catholic Republican! (Except in Ireland, of course, where it's quite different.) :toast:

[GreenPartyVoter]

4. Are they Irish catholic, or Orange Irish? (which is what my family

was back in the day, although not very strongly as far as I can tell.)

[LisaM]

6. "Green" Party Voter is an Orangeman?

Say it ain't so!

[calimary]

7. Another Irish-Catholic Democrat checking in...

The first time I ever tuned by sean hannity, not knowing anything about him other than his being a wrong-winger, he had the UNMITIGATED GALL to tell Alan Colmes "well, I'm a Catholic, so I can speak for Catholics." My mouth dropped open. When it closed again, it was closing around the words "well, seanie, I'M a Catholic, too (for longer than YOU'VE been one, sonny boy), and you CANNOT SPEAK FOR ME!!!!!!!"

[Westegg]

5. I love my Democrat, Irish-American Catholic church-going friends...

...of whom I have many. (I'm Protestant Scotch-English myself.) I think Hannity's simply an idiot, and a boot-licker in extremis. Yeah, I guess he's more able to function in public than Rush is, but he's so gleefully, arrogantly ignorant... Or gleefully, knowingly lying. I guess it's a combination. Bottom line: He makes me so much angrier than Rush does. And that takes some doing.

[HEyHEY]

8. LOL!!!

I always say that! "Don't get my Irish up!" Even my Italian buddies (the arch enemy of the Irish rep for being hot-headed) Laugh in agreement when I say that!

Yes, it has been up since 2000

[Demonaut]

9. just a question to you Irish

My grandmother, who's lives in GB told me her maiden name was Odell, but not the Irish one, have you ever heard of an Odell not being of Irish descent?

[HEyHEY]

10. No, but

My last name is British. I did a search of Irish authors once, and one with the name came up. I emailed her and asked about the Irish routes. She said they came from Britain and staked in Ireland. Lived there for so long the name becaem Irish. So, anything is possible.

[wadestock]

11. Names were changed often for business reasons or other....

I do know of a friend and family with an Irish name...and then I found out they were hard core Italian..... and explained that their great granddad was in construction and felt the name would be better for business. So yes...anything's possible.

[CBHagman]

12. Some thoughts.

First off, as the book "How to Be Irish (Even If You Already Are)" humorously points out, there have long been both right-wing and left-wing types among the Irish. It is a cross we must bear or, as my manager, a Welshman, likes to say, "Offer it up for the poor souls in purgatory."

As for the claim that churchgoing folks are more likely to be Bush supporters, I think that's a case of taking a few polls and making broad assertions with them. Certainly Bush always bangs a drum about his beliefs and practices (guess he missed the 6th and 7th chapters of Matthew), but that doesn't play with everybody.