Time to start outing some prominent closeted gay Republicans

[Brian_Expat]

BUT not generally.

I propose that only those closet cases who are pushing the "gay Kerry/Edwards" meme be outed, publicly. There are at least four of them out there -- two in the media, two in political office.

They should be immediately outed by people unassociated formally with the Democratic campaign, with a note that "it clearly takes one to know one." It would shut up the Republicans pretty damn quickly if the suspicion that their own latent homosexuality is what's driving their idiotic claims becomes a common suspicion, something that such a campaign could do.

[DenverDem]

1. How about George W Bush?

Ask Victor Ashe.

[DenverDem]

19. Come on, people, see the gay elephant in the living room.

Some top U.S. military flag officers are aware of the
           correctness and validity of our exclusive stories of George W.
           Bush and his male sex-mate since University and Skull & Bones
           initiation and up to date. These flag officers are gravely
           concerned with the national security ramifications of this
           relationship which is not a private and personal matter. The
           situation has caused the murder of a magazine photo editor with the
National Enquirer in Ft Lauderdale, Florida - the first
           person killed by anthrax post 9-11-2001, with entire building
           permanently shut down by FBI] as well as causing George W. Bush
           to be subject to blackmail and compromise of Bush resulting in
           his conveyance to sworn enemies of the United States, and giving
           them aid and comfort, of U.S. financial, industrial, and military
           secrets."
Victor Ashe, Mayor of Knoxville, Tennessee, is W's longtime gay partner. Ashe is an open homosexual, who has been described in news stories as sexually active and  promiscuous.
<http://www.puritans.net/news/bush022403.htm> et al

[TrustingDog]

2. well, lookie here...

http://www.thelawparty.com/FranklinCoverup/franklin.htm

[Hotler]

3. I'm surprised Larry Flint hasn't outed any.

n/t

[in_cog_ni_to]

4. Mark Foley and Lindsey Graham, but

they are "out"...aren't they? Who are the others? :shrug: Who are the 2 in the media? :shrug: That guy from Faux news?

[Brian_Expat]

6. Surely you jest about them being "out"! :) n/t

[LastDemocratInSC]

7. Tell us more about Lindsey Graham

[Brian_Expat]

9. He's not "out"

Although, let's just say there are some intriguing bits of speculation, rumour and innuendo out there. . .

[Bucky]

30. I dunno. A lot of southerners come off "fey" but are really not like that

For instance Truman Capote or Tennessee Williams. Oh, and think of all the rumors that Rupaul has had to put up with.

[dusty64]

31. I've heard some

stories about hatch and his appetite for young leather boys. There was a time when I would have opposed this idea, but that was before these fascists declared a divisive and hateful war against their innocent fellow citizens. OUT EM!

[terrya]

25. David Brock might be helpful in knowing where you can find others.

David might have some information as to which right wingers are gay. In his book, he mentioned Armstrong Williams, right wing African-American pundit...and virulent homophobe.

[kixot]

5. Interesting strategy, but, no.

I just don't see how that would help anybody's cause. So some hypocrite pug can have his career ruined by disenchanting his homophobic constituancy rather than by exposing the weakness of his platform. Great, enflame the homophobes and give the GOP a rainbow eye. Cool. :eyes:

[Brian_Expat]

8. It's a good old double-dose return of fire

Something that Democrats need to start to learn to deliver.

And as a gay man myself, I think the old adage "it takes one to know one" needs to be reintroduced to Republican circles. :)

[merh]

10. Here is something to think about. Maybe the repukes have been

promoting their anti-gay position not only to "protect marriage" and to garner votes, but as part of the discredit campaign that they are notorious for in an effort to misdirect the release of bad news that will be harmful to the admin. Maybe it is their way of trying to redirect the blame regarding the torture/sodomy of children at the Iraq prisons from the admin and place the blame on homosexuals. Here is a post from a forum discussing this.

Posted: Sun Jul 18, 2004 9:36 pm Post subject: Homosexual US Soldiers Sodomize Children
----------------------------------------------------------------------
This nonsense has to be sorted out. The soldiers that did this need to be tried for homosexual crimes and if there are films as the credible reporter Seymour Hersh says there are they need to be introduced at court martial.

(snip)

We do not need homosexuality in the US military, and these soldiers that sodomized those children need to be sent to prison.

http://www.sftt.org/phpbb2/viewtopic.php?t=737

===============

It is definitely a possibility as this is the way these sick f**k's think.

[Senior citizen]

11. I've had a problem with that sick thinking for years

The pukes think that you are only homosexual if you prefer people of the same sex who are above the age of consent.

They do not think themselves homosexual if all they do is rape little kids of their same sex.

They often persecute perceived male homosexuals as being effeminate, but seem to think it is manly to rape little kids.

It is my fondest hope that they all end up in jail where Bubba can straighten out their thinking.

[merh]

13. I posted the post in the hopes that those who question whether

outing the repukes in office is the right thing to do will recognize that those same, closeted repukes are aware of the videos of the prison sodomy and they are accomplices to the spin that will be used by the admin to take the heat off of the admin. It will be blamed on the "damned queers" and that will further hamper the efforts of so many who have strived for civil rights for all.

It is time that the hypocrites be outed and that they face the wrath and the ridicule that they have caused to be felt by so many. Until the GOPs that are gay stand up to their party and say I can be who I am and still be a true repuke and American, the torment will not stop and they will use this as their battering ram against gays and lesbians.

As a member of the human race, please accept my sincerest apologies for the other heartless, insensitive assholes that have tormented you over the years. May you know love and find peace.

:hug:

[Dookus]

12. I agree

whole-heartedly. But why don't you "out" the people you're referring to here?

I figure Graham is gay, and so is David Dreier. Who are the media folks you refer to? Shepherd Smith is likely one, but who's the other?

[NightOwwl]

16. Shephard Smith?

No shit? :evilgrin:

[Forkboy]

14. I was actually pretty strongly against this originally

but the more I think it over the more I like the idea of "targeted" outing.

[gauguin57]

15. I don't believe in outing.

Everyone's sexuality is their own private business. We want the government to stay out of our bedrooms. Well, OK ... I'm going to stay out of other people's bedrooms. Even if they're massive hypocrites!

Fight with (gay?) right-wingers over policies ... but people's sex lives are their own damned business. Clinton's sex life was his business. Women's reproductive decisions are their own business. Politicians' sexual preference is their own business.

I know a woman who had an abortion many years ago; she's now a holy roller who goes around lecturing everyone about Fundie Christianity and pro-life. I'm one of the few people who knows about the abortion. It would be so sweet to tell the world: Don't listen to HER, SHE had an abortion! But I'd never tell anyone about it; that is HER PRIVATE BUSINESS, just like I'd want her to treat my sex life as MY private business.

[Kanary]

17. Yup, I wanna play nice, too, and if people are nice to me, I'll return

the favor.

But, I think we've all learned that being a door mat is gonna not only get us killed, but get the country lost.

It's a very sad mess, but since the RW set the standards, they have to live by 'em.

If they wanna drag out a Dem's private life and smear 'em all over, then the same will be done to them.

If they wanna do that with gays in public life, then they gotta know that to do so will bring it down on them.

Same with abortion, and same with anything else they have drawn a "Moral" line around.

When they're ready to act like human beings, and withdraw their poison, we can go back to letting private lives be priate.

And, if your friend goes campaigning to make abortion illegal, she should be OUTED.

That's the nasty game they started, and we will only get smashed to try to play nice.

Sad. But reality.

Kanary

[greenbriar]

28. I agree

out them...


expose them for the hypocrites they are!!!!!!!!!!

[sendero]

32. Two points...

... I would not out the woman who had an abortion, that was in the past and people change.

I wouldn't not out someone just because the are gay and Republican. I would out the blatant hypocrits who openly denounce gay issues while being gay themselves. It is not their gayness that is at issue, it is their hypocricy.

[Swamp Rat]

18. If I had money and a job, I'd bet $1,000 that Rick Santorum is gay.

He's the sorriest closet case I've ever seen... and I've seen a lot. If he were to come here during Mardi Gras, by himself for about a week, it wouldn't take long for him to crack. He'd be in drag by the end of the week, just in time for the Drag Queen Show on Burgundy St.

Santorum is sooo gay! :spank:

[gauguin57]

20. Dunno about that, but ...

... can you imagine ANYONE sleeping with that man? Man, woman, dog or box turtle? YUK! He repulses me -- as do the hateful, bigoted words coming out of his ferret face.

[ursacorwin]

21. i hate log cabin closet types with a passion

and i know a bunch- they're really common at my school. i say out them all, every last one of them. as i've said before, to queer people like me, rethugs have declared WAR on me and my partners, and will do anything to force me back into the closet. i'm not going in without a fight.

i really wish sometimes i lived in dc. i go to gay clubs all the time, and it's so easy to tell who are the log cabin types- they sit in the corner drinking heavily waiting to get the "irish" courage up to approach someone. and then they show up at work/school the next day and deny it all. i even believe a lot of them are responsible for the health crisis in the gay community- these types always believe they don't have to use protection...because they're not "really" gay.

out them all. in every paper and tv show there is. let's start with shrub/ashe and go from there.

[More Than A Feeling]

22. This would be very, very wrong.

How can we break republicans' supposed monopoly on morality, if we ourselves are simultaneously climbing into the muck with them? Sure, it might be justified by saying that that is what we need to do to win, but if we do as they do, has anything changed, even if we win? There are many other weapons in the arsenal, we do not need this one.

[Forkboy]

23. "The truth never damages a cause that is just"

-Ghandi said that...or maybe it was Popeye :)

[terrya]

24. I agree with you 100%, Bri. This should be done during the GOP convention.

[neebob]

26. I'd rather live in a world

where homosexuality is not widely perceived as a character flaw. Sure, it probably won't happen in my lifetime, but outing Republican cruisy boys isn't gonna make it happen any faster.

[RetroLounge]

27. I agree, out the fuckers

Their hypocrisy is sickening...

RL

[DaveSZ]

29. Santorum should be outed imo

.

[truthspeaker]

33. also all the ones who oppose same-sex marriage

[DinahMoeHum]

34. Here's an article and a DU thread to get you started. . .

Article by Salon (you need a day pass if you're not a subscriber)
http://www.salon.com/news/feature/2004/07/15/gay_marriage_amendment/index.html

The DU thread:
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_topic&forum=104&topic_id=2023851

The DU thread includes the contact for a "Mike Rogers".


Good luck and good hunting.



:nuke:

[Stephanie]

35. I wouldn't rove too far from the WH

If you're looking for hypocritical hate-mongers.

[Liberal Veteran]

36. Why do so many dems think this particular minority class is privacy thing?

I've never understood why people insist that somehow because gay people CAN pass as straight, they have a god-given right to do so and we all have to respect that even though they act against the rest of their "community" even to the point of actively engaging in oppressing other gays.

That makes no sense to me.

Essentially, these people perpetuate a environment in which all gay people suffer abuse and prejudice and have the choice of standing up to it bravely or hiding in the closet to avoid it. Then if some of us say "Fine, if you are going to sow the wind, then reap the whirlwind", a bunch of holier-than-thous start wagging their fingers and saying these people have a right to privacy even though they are making life worse for the rest of us.

I cannot abide by that.

Is it a form of blackmail? Possibly. But their comes a time when hypocrisy needs to be exposed. Certainly if I had information that Bob Barr was fucking an intern while he was railing against Clinton, I would have plastered that information all over the front page of every paper in the country if I could and to hell with his "right to privacy".