No Conservatives or Sensible Conservatives?

[bryant69]

Which would you prefer--to live in an America where conservatism had been relegated to the ash bin of history or an America where the Conservatives talked in moderate tones and didn't feel they had to tear down the patriotism of anybody who expressed the slightest disagreement.

I guess another way of asking this would be, what bugs you more about Republicans; what they say or how they say it?

Just Curious.

Oh and any Conservatives who pop in and want to make hay out of this, I suggest you listen to Rush Limbaugh who's been talking about getting rid of Liberals for years now.

Bryant
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[tom_paine]

1. Definitely prefer America as the Founding Fathers envisioned it

And that includes conservatives and even lunatic Totalitarians.

It's just in THAT America (unlike today's Imperial Amerika) there is a strong system of Checks and Balances that works to keep extremists out of power.

But THAT America may well be gone forever.

Let us be unflagging in our Duty to Country and try to insure that the Old American Republic does NOT die here and now!

[GOPFighter]

2. As much as I hate to admit it...

...this country is better off with an equal number of sensible liberals and conservatives.

[Mike Daniels]

6. The country requires long-term equilibrium

That's why whenever it seems like the country has moved too far in one direction the upcoming cycle of general elections tends to move the pendulum in the other direction.

I thought Clinton was a lousy person ( which isn't the same as being a lousy president), but I didn't think that things had gotten that far to one side that the electorate was calling for a change. The closeness of the election seems to bear that out.

Election results aside, I don't think anyone saw a Bush presidency moving the country so far off center at the time he was given the presidency either though.

Sorry, but a country ultimately dominated by one political throught eventually becomes oppressive one way or another and that's why you need both Dems and Republicans in the mix.

[JayS]

3. I would rather have BOTH engage in sensible discussions. n/t

n/t

[Bandit]

4. America needs all kinds

Just not domination of the Media. We need tax payer funded campaigns and not allow any person or entity to donate towards any person or party. If that were the case the Conservatives would be marginalized.

[RUSTY SHACKLEFORD]

5. Responsible conservatives are not the problem...

The Neocons are the problem. Neocons control the Republican party.

What is the difference between conservatives and neocons you ask?

Conservativism, by definition, is the political orientation advocating the preservation of the best in society and opposing radical changes. True conservatives believe in minimal government interference.

Neocons advocate vigorous government interference in the areas of traditional morality (Chistian fundamentalism), pro-business policies, and foreign affairs. By definition, neocons are neither neo, nor conservative.

In fact, no ideology that advocates vigorous governement can be considered conservative. It can, however, be considered: authoritarian, totalitarian, Fascist, or Nazi-like.

[TA]

11. I agree with your post

It's because of the neocons in the Pentagon that the Bush administration has this goal of worldwide imperialism. It's their belief and goal and be damned anyone who opposes them. You can read more about the neocons and what they believe here: www.csmonitor.com/specials/neocon/index.html

[K-W]

7. Sensible conservatives, heres why

In the purest sense conservative is a political philosophy based on skepticism, and fear of change.

I think that in society there will always be a significant conservative faction. There will always be a portion of society that will be irrationally afraid of changing anything for fear of losing thier lot in life. This is acceptable and healthy.

The problem now is that the party that was once the party of conservatives is now a party dominated by several groups. Neoconservatives, defense lobbyists, exploiters of religion, racists and disturbed businessmen use the cloak of the republican party to pretend to be conservatives.

The real conservatives right now are moderate democrats. They are the ones who want to protect the status quo. But people who are conservative by nature are sucked in by the history and the rhetoric of the new republicans.

[mmonk]

8. There aren't many conservatives left

just rightwing radicals posing as conservatives.

[bemildred]

9. Democracy is not about shutting people up. Any people. nt

[sangh0]

10. They aren't conservatives

Our enemies aren't conservatives. Conservative seek to *conserve* and protect our political system and the values it's built on. Our enemies want to destroy our political system ad destroy American values.

Moral: Don't call them conservatives. They are radicals - Right-wing radicals

[RUSTY SHACKLEFORD]

12. Exactly.

I prefer the term neocon, but yours is closer to the mark. They may as well have reduced themselves to spear juddering cannibals.

[Gryffindor_Bookworm]

13. You summed up in five sentences what many people

including Sen. Kerry, unfortunately, seem unable to say in the last three and a half *years*.

:thumbsup: