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opihimoimoi Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-21-04 11:24 PM
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How Come the Pubs are SO generous with Guilt?? Did ya ever notice
Edited on Wed Jul-21-04 11:24 PM by opihimoimoi
they always passing out guilt like there is no tomorrow? How come they don't pass out sensitivity, compassion, empathy, altruism, food, beer, ribs?

Just asking?

Come, we go Guilt Consultant, ....and wouldn't ya know it....the guy is a Pub,.......damn.
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Solly Mack Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-21-04 11:26 PM
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1. well, guilt they got plenty of..so they pass it out
they lack compassion etc...
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opihimoimoi Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-21-04 11:34 PM
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4. Reduce their Guilt Load by passing some to Us?? Makes it OK for them?
It must work cause we see a whole bunch of guilt being passed out by those son of a guns.....

Come, time for free beer and sausages.
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Solly Mack Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-21-04 11:36 PM
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5. Sounds tasty!
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opihimoimoi Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-21-04 11:43 PM
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10. Opi's Luau this coming Sunday... at the Pond.
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salinen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-21-04 11:30 PM
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2. Guilt
= church currency. Yeah like Gilt.
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opihimoimoi Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-21-04 11:37 PM
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7. A Guilty Nation is a Subdued Nation.....
To avoid the guilt of electing the Loser.... the sheep make believe he is doing a wonderful job.....Rejecting Guilt by Delusion....

Everything is Fine, move along, nothing to see, move on please...
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Kanary Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-21-04 11:30 PM
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3. Shame-based ideology is power and control
But, you already knew that......:)

:toast:

Kanary
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opihimoimoi Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-21-04 11:41 PM
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9. Yup, the Powers that be are not for US but for THEM.
They will do all in their power to Dominate and Control our asses.
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Kanary Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-21-04 11:43 PM
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11. Have you ever read much about shame?
It's an eye-opener........

Bushwa & CO doesn't have a lock on it........ it's a cornerstone of this society, and seen often on DU.

Might be of interest to you......

Kanary
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opihimoimoi Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-22-04 12:09 AM
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14. Shame: I suppose its a form of Guilt... Pubs like to Blame with Shame
producing the guilt trips.. A tool used by many people including the Pubs and Fundies.
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Kanary Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-22-04 12:14 AM
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15. One of the forms of shame used on DU is when someone has already
proclaimed their loyalty to Kerry, and offers an item where they are hesitant, or don't agree, they get the standard "Then you'll vote for Bush", or some variation thereof.

Shame exists in all parts of our society, and it's not productive, including in the Dem party.

If we really want a different country, we'll also watch our *own* use of shame and guilt.


Kanary
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opihimoimoi Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-22-04 12:41 AM
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17. LOL, you trying to shame me? :o) like Fats used to say "DON'T BLAME IT ON
Edited on Thu Jul-22-04 12:41 AM by opihimoimoi
ME".......
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Kanary Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-22-04 01:00 AM
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19. Wasn't assuming you've said that.....
Just giving an example.

Jes' sayin'....... if we want to build peace, we have to give up using shame on others.

It doesn't hurt any worse coming from Rep than it does from Dem.

aloha.........

Kanary
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opihimoimoi Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-22-04 01:33 AM
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20. But if a person is doing wrong....perhaps Shame is needed to
address the stopping of the wrong doing? It is a tool, and like most tools, can be used in a negative way. Good Shame/Bad Shame....
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Kanary Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-22-04 11:46 AM
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21. That's *exactly* the reasoning of the RW
So, if you believe in shaming people because *YOU* think they're "doing wrong", then, guess what.......

same/same.

Shame does NOT build peace.

Aloha

Kanary
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Swede Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-21-04 11:37 PM
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6. I'm assuming you mean blame.
Guilt would mean some introspection,they ain't go time for that.
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opihimoimoi Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-21-04 11:40 PM
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8. Actually, both. They pass out Blame as a Distraction and Guilt as a means
of Mind Control.

Come, we go F911 and laugh.....
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jdj Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-21-04 11:44 PM
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12. It's called projection.
If you'e a sinner then so is your neighbor. They only position up for grabs is who is worse, so you point the finger.

Works every time.
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opihimoimoi Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-22-04 12:07 AM
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13. Blame with Shame.......yup, das iz them alright
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The_Casual_Observer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-22-04 12:19 AM
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16. Is it guilt?
In my experience it's greed masked by a bogus "pragmatic and common sense" attitude.
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opihimoimoi Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-22-04 12:43 AM
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18. All of the above;;;;;Pubs use all the Negative Ploys that will address
their agenda....
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