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Paragon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-22-04 09:42 AM
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Trudeau: Bush branded fraternity initiates with hot irons at Yale
(Transcribed myself from the current issue of Rolling Stone, as it is not contained in their online excerpt. - P.)

ROLLING STONE: Did you (Doonesbury cartoonist Gary Trudeau and George W. Bush) get along?

TRUDEAU: Our paths crossed in a most interesting way in sophomore year, when a classmate of mine wrote an expose for the college paper about the physical hazing at Deke house. Apparently, initiates had been branded with hot irons - the delta on their backside. The editor asked if I would illustrate the article. So the very first cartoons I did for the Yale Daily News were about Deke and George Bush. It became a minor scandal on campus - and it was the first time Bush was interviewed by the major media. He told the New York Times it was just a coat hanger, and, you know, it didn't hurt any more than a cigarette burn. It does put one in mind of what his views on torture might be today...
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coloradodem2005 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-22-04 09:46 AM
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1. Figures.
He seems to take sadistic pleasure in the suffering of others.
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redqueen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-22-04 09:48 AM
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2. I wish there were pics of the brand
I'd love to know how parents would react to knowing their children are at risk of being literally scarred for life due to frat boy IDIOCY!
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Brotherjohn Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-22-04 10:06 AM
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4. I'd guess the parents of Dekes would be proud.
They're likely Dekes themselves.

When I was in college, the local Deke chapter was considered the "Animal House" of campus. They were investigated for torturing and killing kittens... yes, kittens.

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wellstone_democrat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-22-04 10:12 AM
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5. Ah, is Frist a Deke?
He reportedly enjoys killing cats.

I always wonder if Ashcroft has him hunt down Calicoes in the Capitol in advance of any appearances there....
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redqueen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-22-04 10:28 AM
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8. Well there's a good example of what's wrong with this country
the stupid raising the stupid... and all well 'educated', with nice jobs... so they can become the rulers in the next generation.
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Paragon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-22-04 10:01 AM
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3. I take it this is a dupe?
Pretty juicy stuff.
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Mike Daniels Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-22-04 10:21 AM
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6. Lots of frats do branding
At least when I was at college the service fraternities as opposed to the seocial frats all branded.

Hell, if the subject is willing to have his flesh seared by a metal object, big deal.
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Carson Donating Member (560 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-22-04 10:26 AM
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7. Exactly
This thread is on par with the "Jenna stuck out her tongue" threads...inane.
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Paragon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-22-04 10:54 AM
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10. Welcome to DU, Carson
:eyes:
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redqueen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-22-04 10:29 AM
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9. You don't consider thata sign of a warped society?
That an institution that's supposed to be about *learning* is plagued with rituals designed to instill groupthink and idiotic tribal BS?
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NewYorkerfromMass Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-22-04 04:47 PM
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11. The original torturer in chief
bet he enjoyed it.
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