Why is no one asking these questions? (About Berger)

[Ravy]

A hard drive goes missing from Los Alamos, and it makes the news for a few days, effectively shuts the place down.

How can the National Archives people let people walk out with documnents in the first place? Don't they have procedures in place to check for this?

I would think there would be video camreras, guards, etc, at the place where our most "highly classified" documents are held. I would think they would know EXACTLY what they give out, and EXACTLY what they got back. I would not think they would allow pen and paper in the facility if people couldn't take notes.

They let Sandy Berger walk in there with a portfolio. This indicates to me he could not have only taken out stuff easily, but also INSERTED stuff into the classified docuemnts.

Please don't get me wrong. I don't think he intentionally did either or anything really bad.

But no one seems concerned that security around our most highly classified docuements is to the point where they can't tell if somoene takes any (without secretly numbering documents IF they suspect someone has been taking them). If they are to be believed, they WATCHED him put notes into his clothing... yet did NOTHING to stop him at that point.

Either these things were really secretive or they weren't. Either being able to take notes out and perhaps copies of various pieces of documents was, while technically illegal, allowable and generally done, or it wasn't. But, if it WASN'T, then why did they not stop him, or anyone that they saw doing it?

Has our Homeland Security failed us yet again?

Again, please don't flame me as being anti Sandy Berger. I think he is a good an honorable man and America owes him a big "Thank You" for the work he did in the terrorism arena. If the person making these "socks" allegations comes forward, I hope they ask him/her how many OTHER peoople has he/she let out of there carrying highly-classified documents, and how he/she would even know if they did!

I think you would see an immediate cooling off of the rhetoric over how much potential damage to our national security actually occured here.

If you turn this thing around and take Sandy Berger out of it, instead of the story being about him, there is a bigger story about holes in the way the government currently protects our classified documents.

[1monster]

1. Berger did not get into the original documents area. He saw and took

copies. Ergo, if he had inserted documents, it would be easily determined because the inserted documents would not be in the original archives.

[Ravy]

3. So that shoots down any argument that he was trying to

"cleanse" the record of something critical of the Clinton administration.

[sui generis]

2. there is something fishy going on

So the "employee" went to their boss to ask what to do, and the the boss said, "why, let's call the FBI, because even if it turns out to be nothing, it will still steal a news cycle, and if it turns out to be something it will steal many news cycles."

Meanwhile the dumbass contributed to a national security breach by knowingly allowing classified documents to leave the building. The librarians and their managers need to be charged with a crime.

[bushisanidiot]

4. It Reminds of an idiot on Judge Judy who was suing a kid who

ran his bicycle into the side of his car. The poor kid hit his head so hard on the windshield that the windshield broke. What was the driver's proof that the kid was at fault? "the boy was going very fast.. peddling hard on his bike." judge judy asked how he knew the boy was peddling hard. the idiot driver said he SAW him peddling hard. Judy pointed out that if he SAW him well enough to know that he was "peddling hard" then he saw him well enough to avoid the collision. The driver's "proof" backfired on him and turned out to be proof for the defense.

same thing here with berger. if this "unnamed source" actually "saw" berger put documents "down his pants and in his socks" then why wasn't someone alerted immediately? why was berger let out of the room with those top secret documents? why was he allowed out of the building with those top secret documents?

the repukes are obviously lying on this one.