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skypilot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-22-04 02:45 PM
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Do you think that Bill Clinton will come forward and...
contest all this "failure of imagination" bullshit? If the Hart/Rudman Report does actually mention terrorists wanting to use planes as missiles then I can't imagine why Clinton, and Hart, and Rudman wouldn't speak up and put the lie to this crap.
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Joanne98 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-22-04 02:48 PM
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1. Fuck no
It's up to us now. Our Dem leaders are too chickenshit to say anything.
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fob Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-22-04 02:49 PM
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2. Gotta let them spew all their bs to make sure they are fully painted
into a corner. If you come out to early and too forcefully, they have shown no problem in spewing more bs unencumbered by the moral dictate not to lie.
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senseandsensibility Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-22-04 02:49 PM
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3. You seem to be suggesting
that Democrats stand up for themselves and the facts. Democrats have a very hard time doing this. I anticipate nothing of the sort, unfortunately. I'd like to be wrong.
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aden_nak Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-22-04 02:50 PM
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4. Apparently the Bushies need to watch more TV.
Edited on Thu Jul-22-04 02:51 PM by aden_nak
About a year before 9/11 there was an episode of the woefully underwatched X-Files spinoff The Lone Gunman (the pilot episode I think) where the plot concerned fling a commercial airliner into the World Trade Center. Granted, on the show someone was doing it via remote control. . . but still. . . don't tell me that if a couple of TV writers can think of this shit, the best minds in our military and ingelligence agencies cannot. And if that IS the case, perhaps we need to re-think what sorts of thinkers we pick for those jobs.

We probably shouldn't bring it up, though. That'll just be proof that those liberal, America-hating Hollywood types are in league with al-Queda.
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papau Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-22-04 02:52 PM
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5. The media knows Hart/Rudman Report - and pretends Bush not warned
Indeed the CIA today said it had warned of hijacked plane possibility befor 911.

But the media will sell the GOP right wing story os a Bush that was not incompetant - indeed if he had known more he would have stopped it -

because the GOP ownes these media whores.

What Clinton, or Hart, say or show or prove does not matter.

It is in the National Interest to let this report put to bed all 911 questions - right? - - come on now, say "right" -


The media is not about to expose Bush.
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hedda_foil Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-22-04 02:52 PM
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6. That would have been Sandy Berger's job.
Berger as Clinton's NSA ... and the guy who handled terrorism so effectively under Clinton ... would have been the natural choice to rebut this nonsense. Gee, do ya think that might be why .....?
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skypilot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-22-04 02:55 PM
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7. Hmmmm.
Interesting.
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emulatorloo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-22-04 03:21 PM
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11. BINGO! EOM
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GreenPartyVoter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-22-04 02:56 PM
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8. NORAD had drills of jets as weapons
WASHINGTON — In the two years before the Sept. 11 attacks, the North American Aerospace Defense Command conducted exercises simulating what the White House says was unimaginable at the time: hijacked airliners used as weapons to crash into targets and cause mass casualties.
One of the imagined targets was the World Trade Center. In another exercise, jets performed a mock shootdown over the Atlantic Ocean of a jet supposedly laden with chemical poisons headed toward a target in the United States. In a third scenario, the target was the Pentagon — but that drill was not run after Defense officials said it was unrealistic, NORAD and Defense officials say.

NORAD, in a written statement, confirmed that such hijacking exercises occurred. It said the scenarios outlined were regional drills, not regularly scheduled continent-wide exercises.

"Numerous types of civilian and military aircraft were used as mock hijacked aircraft," the statement said. "These exercises tested track detection and identification; scramble and interception; hijack procedures; internal and external agency coordination and operational security and communications security procedures."

http://www.usatoday.com/news/washington/2004-04-18-norad_x.htm
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skypilot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-22-04 03:01 PM
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9. It's just fucking incredible...
...that there's all this stuff floating around out there and they'll have the balls to say that no one ever imagined such a thing happening.
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GreenPartyVoter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-22-04 03:04 PM
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10. Because they are secure in the ignorance of the electorate.
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Karenina Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-22-04 03:43 PM
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12. Never mind that PICTURE of
model buildings and aircraft in a warehouse where they were doing simulations... :eyes:
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