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Generator Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-22-04 08:13 PM
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The Pakistan connection to 9/11
Nice article in the Guardian.

http://www.guardian.co.uk/comment/story/0,3604,1266317,00.html


Omar Sheikh, a British-born Islamist militant, is waiting to be hanged in Pakistan for a murder he almost certainly didn't commit - of the Wall Street Journal reporter Daniel Pearl in 2002. Both the US government and Pearl's wife have since acknowledged that Sheikh was not responsible. Yet the Pakistani government is refusing to try other suspects newly implicated in Pearl's kidnap and murder for fear the evidence they produce in court might acquit Sheikh and reveal too much.

Significantly, Sheikh is also the man who, on the instructions of General Mahmoud Ahmed, the then head of Pakistan's Inter-Services Intelligence (ISI), wired $100,000 before the 9/11 attacks to Mohammed Atta, the lead hijacker. It is extraordinary that neither Ahmed nor Sheikh have been charged and brought to trial on this count. Why not?

Ahmed, the paymaster for the hijackers, was actually in Washington on 9/11, and had a series of pre-9/11 top-level meetings in the White House, the Pentagon, the national security council, and with George Tenet, then head of the CIA, and Marc Grossman, the under-secretary of state for political affairs. When Ahmed was exposed by the Wall Street Journal as having sent the money to the hijackers, he was forced to "retire" by President Pervez Musharraf. Why hasn't the US demanded that he be questioned and tried in court?

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Does the word Pakistan even appear in the 9/11 report? What country debt did we just cancel? Hmmmm...
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Old and In the Way Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-22-04 08:47 PM
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1. And the puts on AA/UA?
And Hopsicker's reporting on the terrorists in Venice?

I don't think they were nearly as wide ranging as they needed to be. But I'm hardly surprised that this was whitewashed in the manner it was. When crooks and criminals control the investigation, the search for truth usually suffers.
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shockingelk Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-22-04 11:12 PM
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2. The Commission's report ...
It only mentions Mahmoud Ahmed was in DC on Sept 13. Two other instances of his name, one being in the glossary, the other a footnote. Can't ruffle Pakistan's feathers, can we?
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LunaC Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-22-04 11:18 PM
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3. This background info might be helpful
So far, no one has offered a plausible explanation for the following sequence of events:

In May 2001 the U.S. State Department met with Iran, German and Italian officials to discuss Afghanistan. It was decided that the ruling Taliban would be toppled and a "broad-based government" would control the country so a gas pipeline could be built there.

http://fpc.state.gov/documents/organization/7969.pdf.
http://www.gasandoil.com/goc/features/fex20867.htm


Even as plans were being made to remove the Taliban rulers from power, Colin Powell announced a $43 million "gift" to Afghanistan.

http://www.latimes.com/news/opinion/editorials/la-091701scheer.column
http://www.cato.org/dailys/08-02-02.html


Meanwhile, the U.S. Embassy in the UAE received a call that Bin Laden supporters were in the U.S. planning attacks with explosives. It was rumored that Bin Laden was interested in hijacking U.S. aircraft.

http://www.cnn.com/2004/images/04/10/whitehouse.pdf


In June 2001 the decades-old procedure for a quick response by the nation’s air defense was changed. NORAD’s military commanders could no longer issue the command to launch fighter jets because approval had to be sought from the civilian Defense Secretary, Donald Rumsfeld.

http://www.9-11commission.gov/hearings/hearing7/for_the_record_ashley.pdf


In July 2001, the private plot formulated in May for toppling the Taliban was divulged during the G8 summit in Genoa, Italy. Immediately after the conference, American, Russian, German and Pakistani officials secretly met in Berlin to finalize the strategy for military strikes against the Taliban, scheduled to begin before mid-October 2001

http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/south_asia/1550366.stm
http://www.guardian.co.uk/international/story/0,3604,556254,00.html
http://www.gasandoil.com/goc/features/fex20867.htm


In September 2001 the "catastrophic and catalyzing" modern-day Pearl Harbor envisioned years earlier by the White House members of the PNAC came to pass when the WTC and Pentagon were attacked with U.S. aircraft as Rumsfeld sat passive and unresponsive. Immediately, the finger of blame was pointed at Osama bin Laden, a former CIA operative with ties to Afghanistan. Suddenly, the U.S. "gift" of $43 million to the Taliban in May was cast in a new light. Coincidentally, Pakistan had participated in the plan to attack Afghanistan and the chief of Pakistan's Inter Service Intelligence agency was later linked to a 911 hijacker after wiring him $100,00 just days before the WTC fell.

http://cryptome.org/rad.htm
http://www.observer.com/pages/story.asp?ID=8830
http://www.globalresearch.ca/articles/CHO109C.html
http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/cms.dll/html/uncomp/articleshow?msid=1454238160


In October 2001, with flags waving, crowds cheering, and anthems playing, the "War On Terror" and the hunt for Osama began when Afghanistan was attacked right on schedule of July's secret meeting


Shorrtly afterwards, public focus was diverted to Iraq. You already know the rest of the story.



For details on the PNAC coup of the White House see "The Whispering Campaign" link below.
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maggrwaggr Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-22-04 11:28 PM
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5. wow. that's a hell of a timeline, Luna
and it explains everything, actually.

Anybody with half a brain should have been able to see that our "response" to 9/11 didn't make ANY sense whatsoever, especially regarding Pakistan.

Jesus ......
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LunaC Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-23-04 12:33 AM
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6. Thanks - I've been jumping up and down about this for months!
As time goes by, new info gets added that consistently points the Finger of Blame for 911 directly towards the CIA and the Mayberry Machiavellis.

I'd also like to add that Germany was in on the plot right from the start and that the hijackings were planned in Germany. In his book "911 and the CIA" (in German), Andreas von Bulow - former German defense minister - lays out the evidence of the military-industrial complex carrying out the attacks. If only we had a translator available to decode his book!

http://www.prisonplanet.com/jones_report.html
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maggrwaggr Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-22-04 11:24 PM
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4. It's Pakistan that made me really smell a Bush Rat back in 2001 - 02
I totally believed after 9/11 that Osama Bin Laden "did" 9/11. And that we had to go after him no matter fucking what, no matter who might be in the way.

I think a LOT of Americans felt this way.

It was obvious to me that Afghanistan and northern Pakistan were virtually the same country, the same territory, certainly very similar culturally and that terrorists could pass through the "border" without really knowing it was there.

So when we pulled up short, didn't do jack shit about Pakistan, only half-heartedly went after him in the Mtns, then KISSED PAKISTAN'S ASS, I started to smell a rat.

Then I started to do my homework and realized ..... there's a whole LOT of godawful shit going on with Bushco et al.

And now .... It just makes me sick to think of how we've dealt with the biggest nuclear threat EVER -- Pakistan, and Khan, the "father of the muslim bomb", who has spread nuclear weapons to God only knows where, and we've allowed him to get away with barely a slap on the wrist? And still kissing Pakistan's ass, and STILL letting terrorists hide out in Karachi and wherever else they want to be in Pakistan?

It's a fucking joke, it's a goddamn crime, and it's probably the most dangerous thing in the world today (all this bullshit about North Korea and Iran, PSHAWWW!!!!)

And it's all being kept very secret and swept under the rug.

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Generator Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-23-04 02:38 PM
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9. Me as well
When I started looking looking into 9/11 and what the theories were. It was obvious that Pakistan/Afghanistan were a major part of the same nexus.

Here's something I read that is a small thing but convinced me that the Pakistan/ISI is a pivotal link that of course is being denied and kept from public knoweldge.

http://www.globalresearch.ca/articles/RIC206A.html

It's a text showing that Rice was asked about the ISI chief meeting here, and then it was removed from the White House texts and the CNN transcript. Something so small but so big in my mind.

(MS. RICE: Yes?

Q Are you aware of the reports at the time that ISI chief was in Washington on September 11th, and on September 10th, $ 100,000 was wired from Pakistan to these groups here in this area? And why he was here? Was he meeting with you or anybody in the administration?)


One time and one time only does a journalist ask a question and then it's removed from history. She denies and knows nothing anyway, but those three little letters-ISI-being removed says a mouthful.

I clicked on the link to the WhiteHouse page and had read it a few months ago. It's now a 404-not found. Oh, Mayberry Machivelli's indeed!
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maggrwaggr Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-23-04 01:00 AM
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7. kick
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TeeYiYi Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-23-04 03:05 AM
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8. kick
TYY:kick:
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TeeYiYi Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-23-04 04:49 PM
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10. double kick
TYY:kick::kick:
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leftofthedial Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-23-04 04:55 PM
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11. Two reasons: American "justice" and the "war" on "terror"
1. American "justice" is not about truth. It is not about justice. It is about preserving the political order and protecting the assets and standing of wealthy individuals and corporations.

2. The "war" on "terror" is not intended to wage war on terrorists. Indeed, it is intended to perpetuate and foment terrorism. It is only a "war" in the sense that it is intended to provide cover for the other wars the powerful want to fight.

The Pakistanis are the bushgang's creatures and are instruments of their will in the region.
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