Need debunking: Michael Moore said....

[TryingToWarnYou]

That "everyone that supported the war in Iraq deserves to see their child die in it"

I got into an argument at work today where I was told this.

Any truth to it?

[Khephra]

1. Why are you "defending" it?

Shouldn't they have the source to back it up?

[TryingToWarnYou]

3. Yeah, but I didnt think they would have it in their back pocket...

:-)

[Bluebear]

2. I did a quick search and nothing like that came up

I would think it would be all over the net.

[TryingToWarnYou]

5. I spent about 20 minutes looking and nothing even close...

thought there might have been some right wing myth email thing going around.

[Bluebear]

7. Tell them burden of proof is on them and Move On

:)

[AlCzervik]

4. you were told that by someone who was told that by

some assshole rightwing talking douchebag who distorts and spins what anybody who doesnt agree with Dim-son says.

[StandUpGuy]

6. Even if he did say it

There is no draft.

The information to determine the legality of this war was available well before the bombs dropped.

The people in the Arab world would certainly agree with that statement.


But no he didn't say that.

Why can't I give you a link?

Because he didn't say it.

[JI7]

8. Why don't you demand they PROVE he said it

[TryingToWarnYou]

11. I plan to };-)

[trotsky]

9. Sort of.

Here's the quote:

http://www.michaelmoore.com/words/message/index.php?messageDate=2004-04-14

I'm sorry, but the majority of Americans supported this war once it began and, sadly, that majority must now sacrifice their children until enough blood has been let that maybe -- just maybe -- God and the Iraqi people will forgive us in the end.

That doesn't mean people who supported the war deserve to see their child die in it, only that those who supported it should be willing to send their children to fight it - if it is truly just. At least that's how I understand it.

On edit: clarification.

[TryingToWarnYou]

10. Ahh, ok. I see where it could be twisted...

Thanks!

[trotsky]

12. Also it's worth noting the context.

Prior to that quote, he is talking about Americans who want the UN to come in and bail us out. That, he claims, isn't fair, because they're not the ones who wanted this boondoggle. It's our mess to clean up, and sadly it will have to be American lives sacrificed because pResident Bozo was too arrogant and stupid to get help.

[Bucky]

13. I disagree with your interpretation

When Moore says "that majority must now sacrifice their children until enough blood has been let" he doesn't mean literally their children. I think it's clear that he thinks of the 18-22 year olds getting killed in Iraq are all our children.

The message seems to be that the killing and dying is going to go on for a while longer before enough of the country wakes up and demands that our troops come home. He doesn't ask that we be willing to send our kids there, but to realize that we already have sent our kids there.

[ant]

14. full context needed

The full paragraph actually says:

There is a lot of talk amongst Bush's opponents that we should turn this war over to the United Nations. Why should the other countries of this world, countries who tried to talk us out of this folly, now have to clean up our mess? I oppose the U.N. or anyone else risking the lives of their citizens to extract us from our debacle. I'm sorry, but the majority of Americans supported this war once it began and, sadly, that majority must now sacrifice their children until enough blood has been let that maybe -- just maybe -- God and the Iraqi people will forgive us in the end.

Seems to me the good Moore is talking about that great Republican ideal, taking personal responsibility. I don't believe he's saying that those who supported the war should be willing to send their children to it - though it's a sentiment I agree with and I would guess Moore does to. I think he's talking more about the US trying to get the children of foreign nations to take over its own mess.

Rather than attack Moore for this comment, the freeper in question should explain why it is that other nations should take responsibility for a US mistake.

[TryingToWarnYou]

16. Excellent points and I agree.

Thanks!

[Bush was AWOL]

15. I get this all the time at work

someone will take a quote like that in a totally different manner than I will and I will end up defending him.

[LibertyorDeath]

17. Complete BS