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gauguin57 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-22-04 11:59 PM
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Seriously ... why didn't we get these Flight 93 details a long time ago?
http://www.cnn.com/2004/US/07/22/911.flight.93/index.html

I'm angry. Why in the world shouldn't we have been allowed to see this transcript of the final moments of Flight 93 a long time ago. What harm would those few lines getting out to the American public have done to any particular investigation?
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cthrumatrix Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-23-04 12:08 AM
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1. it takes time to "write or create history" for the "merikans"..... truth
is a hard commodity to find with this WH and anything from thier lips and the 911 whitewash effort
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shockingelk Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-23-04 12:17 AM
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3. Why are you saying it's a whitewash? n/t
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shockingelk Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-23-04 12:16 AM
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2. I have an idea
The battle aboard the plane was burned into history by the story of one passenger, Todd Beamer, who used an onboard phone to call the FBI. At the end of his call, the operator overhead him say to other passengers, "Let's roll."

Maybe that's not what was said, but rather,

"Sixteen seconds later, a passenger yelled, 'Roll it!' " the report says.

Could have been referring to trying to batter the door down with a flight attendant's cart. The "Let's roll" thing helped gear up the nation for war.
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Old and In the Way Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-23-04 01:29 AM
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10. Could have been a terrorist deciding that they'd finish the dirty deed
Edited on Fri Jul-23-04 01:30 AM by Old and In the Way
too.

Whatever, I am sure a lot of the narrative provided by this administration was their typical puffed up BS.
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shockingelk Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-23-04 02:07 AM
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12. They would have shouted in Arabic n/t
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Suzi Creamcheese Donating Member (126 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-23-04 12:30 AM
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4. I thought it was one of the only interesting things in the report
I hear they are selling this bungled turkey. I guess they didn't want to give that part away because it might help sales.
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Guaranteed Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-23-04 12:31 AM
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5. Because it was really shot down.
It was shot down. Voice recordings be damned, they shot the thing down.
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DemBones DemBones Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-23-04 12:59 AM
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8. I agree. Cheney gave the order but before

they go around to telling the truth, the Todd Beamer story broke and everybody had their Hero.

SHEEP! Sometimes people are such SHEEP!
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izzie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-23-04 12:42 AM
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6. Since we can not know it is what we wish to think?
I think it is the wish that all these Americans just did not sit back and die with out a fight. By nature these people will have to become brave, for us.
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stickdog Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-23-04 12:50 AM
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7. Where is the information from the flight data recorder?
Why can't we have this synched with the cockpit voice recorder like the NTSB has done in many other crashes of interest?
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napi21 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-23-04 01:04 AM
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9. I doubt that would be on the voice recorder.
They record info from the cocpit only.
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napi21 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-23-04 01:39 AM
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11. I want to edit my statement above.
I just read the report and it does say sounds, although muffled, were heard from outside the cockpit door.

It is interesting that the words "let it roll" were heard. Are the words "Lets roll" some fabrication?
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stickdog Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-23-04 02:22 PM
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13. There are TWO black boxes. Both were recovered intact.
1) COCKPIT VOICE RECORDER -- records the voices in the cockpit.

2) FLIGHT DATA RECORDER - records the airspeed, altitude and heading as a function of time.

What I'm asking is, why hasn't the information from #2 been released?

If they synched up the information from #2 with the voices heard on #1, it would help explain what was happening with the plane during its last minutes in the air. The NTSB routinely synchronizes these black boxes and releases transcripts indicating the FDR data along with the CVR data. In the past, they've even released flight simulator recreations of the view from the cockpit based on the FDR data. Why hasn't this been done in this case?
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