W just said the damn democrats take blacks for granted

[mopaul]

he said in so many words that dems use black voters and then abandon them or some such shit. later today, they'll have it on the white house website. i'll get a copy.

[Bucky]

1. I agree. Democrats who take any voter for granted are damned...

to eternal Republicanism

[sangh0]

25. Do you really care about this issue?

If you did, I would have thought you were familiar with the fact that during the Clinton admin, millions of blacks benefitted from higher employment rates, lower rates of drug abuse and teen pregnancy, higher incomes, higher rates of home ownership by minorities, and increased access to health insurance amongst others.

If that's "taking minorities for granted", I wish the DNC would take me for granted. I could use a higher income also. A new home wouldn't hurt either.

[Demoiselle]

37. Well said, sangho!

Great list, I'm writing it down!

[vetwife]

39. No vote should be taken for granted at least we liberals

don't take Blacks for slaves and windowdressing. Black people are ahead of the curve on this type of rhetoric ! His love of taking things for granted was proudly displayed by his no show at the NAACP invitation. Most of my friends are African American and they know about this BS. They know who a Dixicrat and a Republican is. They have been fighting this fight for years. We have been lax in a lot of ways but I sure don't take my black friends or their votes for granted.

[mopaul]

2. take a look at my agenda take a look at my agenda take a look at my agenda

take a look at my agenda take a look at my agenda take a look at my agenda

[trumad]

3. But Dubya uses them for props in photo-Ops...

Sure Georgem what ever...

[buff2]

4. What a scumbag bu$h is.

Always the "innocent" one. I can't stomach that lying fraud.

[lastknowngood]

5. He finally said something true. It must have been a misspeak

n/t

[bryant69]

6. Hmmmmm

"Yes, those Democrats keep on getting Blacks hopes up, talking about health care or civil rights. We Republicans know that it's better to be honest and tell Black people, you live in America and you're screwed. That's just the way it goes. That's the Republican way."

Bryant
Check it out --> http://politicalcomment.blogspot.com

[Bandit]

10. I was unable to find this quote on the link you provided

Who said it?

[bryant69]

13. I just kind of made it up

Channeling a certain kind of Republican. Sorry about that.

[soupkitchen]

7. And republicans take them for dumbasses

[Art_from_Ark]

12. ...while taking them to the cleaners

[spanone]

8. b-u-l-l-s-h-i-t

[DemocratSinceBirth]

15. wrong

it's bushshit....

[aden_nak]

9. As opposed to Bush, who blacks for the help.

[UTUSN]

11. Whereas Shrub Just LOVES Them in His Photo Ops & Conventions

That 2000 Repuke convention was just too incredible------all those minorities and women on the stage, while all the true Repuke members and leaders were NOT TO BE SEEN.

[snippy]

14. This from the man who spread the rumor that McCain had a black daughter?

And almost every republican in the South praises and sucks up to the CCC. Maybe blacks distrust and dislike the party of racists and bigots.

[MISSDem]

36. Haley Barbour's picture was on the CCC web site and he unseated

the Mississippi Democratic Governor Musgrove. It probably was considered a plus by a lot of folks.

[TeacherCreature]

16. Yes suh, them black folk are just to damn stupid to know who to vote for!

If they knew anything they would be voting for the party that spends thousands of dollars to take them off the voter roles!

[librechik]

17. He said "Democrat" party

isn't that secret code for the freepers to suck up?

[GreenArrow]

18. he's telling them what they already know.

.

[NewYorkerfromMass]

19. If this myth were so real he'd have told the NAACP too. eom

[GreenArrow]

21. myth?

it might be interesting to see whether black voters think it is a myth. It was rather an issue in my tradtionally Democratic voting community two years ago when a number of popular and influential black ministers told their fellow congregations pretty much the same thing. Whether it translated into extra votes for the Republicans I don't recall; the black vote was way down, anyway, and had been down two years earlier even when a generally black candidate had been running for US Rep.

Myth? I don't think so. Rather, one of those uncomfortable truths that feels so much better to ignore.

[sangh0]

26. Yes, it's a myth

During the Clinton admin, millions of blacks benefitted from higher employment rates, lower rates of drug abuse and teen pregnancy, higher incomes, higher rates of home ownership by minorities, and increased access to health insurance amongst others.

If that's "taking minorities for granted", I wish the DNC would take me for granted. I could use a higher income also. A new home wouldn't hurt either.

[GreenArrow]

28. no, it's one of those things that makes people feel good

to avoid. Simply saying that the Democrats have been taking black voters for granted is not to say that Republicans are offering them anything better. Of course the Republicans aren't offering them anything better. I have difficulty understanding how anyone black, or more broadly, poor, could vote Republican.

[sangh0]

30. When you finish

I do hope you explain how increasing the rates of health insurance, employment, income and hoome ownership, and decreasing the rates of unemployment, drug abuse and teen pregnancy could be considered "taking blacks for granted"

[GreenArrow]

32. what do any of those things

have to do with Blacks' PERCEPTIONS that they are being taken for granted by Democrats?

[NewYorkerfromMass]

33. We're talking about the reality here. nt

[GreenArrow]

34. perception is reality

For whatever reason, if there is a general perception among blacks that Democrats are taking them for granted, it would probably be a good idea for the Democrats to deal with that perception. It's easy to quantify all sorts of rises and falls in this rate or the other, but it's also useful to see how things are qualified.

Blacks aren't going to jump ship and vote Republican any time soon, but if they feel like they aren't being listened to/attended to, they are simply not going to vote.

[sangh0]

35. No it's not and besides

you described the idea that the Dems take blacks for granted as "one of those uncomfortable truths that feels so much better to ignore"

You didn't decribe it as a PERCEPTION that black voters have. You described it as "TRUTH"

[GreenArrow]

40. as I suggested earlier,

it might be interesting to see whether black voters think it's a myth. Even though blacks as a group vote overwhelmingly for Democrats, and rightfully so, given their choices, that doesn't mean they are satisfied with their representation. In fact, given the abysmally low percentage of blacks that vote at all, one could make a safe assumption that black voters, particularly the young, feel pretty well disillusioned with politics in general.

As for the statement that blacks feel that Democrats take their vote for granted, I'll stand by it. In fact your resistance to even entertain the possibility that black voters may not be 100 percent satisfied with the Democrats is indicative that the issue is exactly as I characterized it: "one of those uncomfortable truths that feels so much better to ignore."

There are two issues here: 1) Blacks have a preception that Democrats take their votes for granted. 2) Mainstream Democrats do not wish to give credence to this perception.

[spotbird]

20. I'd rather be taken for granted than f**ked in the a**.

But he is right, the Democrats have taken most of their natural constituencies for granted, which is why turn-out is so poor.

[CaTeacher]

24. This is true--we count on the vote of the African American

community to be overwhelmingly Democratic--and to turn out in high numbers. To deserve this loyalty from the voters, this party needs to do more to earn these votes.

A good start would be to make it easier for African Americans to start businesses (get loans etc), invest more money in the inner cities, and provide more racially based scholarship $$$ for college.

(I would also ban the use of standardized tests in education--this is a racist policy pure and simple.)

[sangh0]

27. You've got it backwards

The AA vote is overwhelmingly Dem because the Dems are overwhelmingly better than the Repukes on their issues, which clearly refutes the idea that the Dems have taken blacks for granted. To assume otherwise is to assume that blacks are not smart enough to realize that they are helping the Dems while getting nothing in return. Black people are NOT stupid and there is a reason for why they vote the way they do.

During the Clinton admin, millions of blacks benefitted from higher employment rates, lower rates of drug abuse and teen pregnancy, higher incomes, higher rates of home ownership by minorities, and increased access to health insurance amongst others.

If that's "taking minorities for granted", I wish the DNC would take me for granted. I could use a higher income also. A new home wouldn't hurt either.

[Generic Other]

22. I would call audience response subdued

I'm not sure that's a good thing in an African American audience.

African American audiences tend to be very demonstrative when they approve of the message delivered.

The audience response seemed icily polite if you ask me.

[stanwyck]

29. subdued or "suppressed"

as in the GOP needs to "suppress the Detroit vote" in Michigan. Thank you state senator Papageorges for your honesty.

[GreenArrow]

41. maybe they agreed with the message

but not the messenger.

[sampsonblk]

23. He's right

but let's not make it like the GOP is even an option here. Didn't he say something about the speck in the other guy's eye?

[LittleApple81]

31. Did anybody here see "Bullworth" with Warren Beatty? Democratic party

really does not do enough for minorities or disenfranchised but THE REPUBLICANS WANT TO SINK THEM TOTALLY.
For me it is like NOT VOTING FOR THE REPUBLICANS EVER. They are the evil you DON'T want even near you.

[MISSDem]

38. Black people probably do feel taken advantage of

politically when there still are no U.S. senators of color, are there?