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dennis4868 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-23-04 12:40 PM
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Bush: "Clinton did not warn me
about al Qaeda before I took office"

That is what the 911 commission says that Bush told them...it is stated somewhere in the 911 report. Like Bush took notes at the meeting and remembers everything stated at that meeting he had with Clinton.

This is a bunch of crap of course. Another Bush lie......
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NewYorkerfromMass Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-23-04 12:42 PM
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1. That was Rice's job.
Edited on Fri Jul-23-04 12:43 PM by NewYorkerfromMass
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proud patriot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-23-04 01:01 PM
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16. She really should of been fired long ago
Edited on Fri Jul-23-04 01:01 PM by proud patriot
She's a miserable failure
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Bridget Burke Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-23-04 12:42 PM
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2. But not under oath, as we all remember.
And sitting on Cheney's lap.

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BattyDem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-23-04 12:42 PM
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3. Well ...
if Bush* says he wasn't warned, then it must be true. Our pResident doesn't lie! :eyes:

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TeacherCreature Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-23-04 12:43 PM
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4. Liar
He should be impeached
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NewYorkerfromMass Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-23-04 12:44 PM
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6. No. I think this is great! it shows what a clueless doofus he is.
and why he is unfit to be CiC.
If he really believes it is true then this is great news.
He just lost another 2 points to Kerry.
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Jack Rabbit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-23-04 12:44 PM
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5. Maybe not, but Richard Clarke did
You don't get off that easily, Frat Boy.

What a liar!!
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progressivebydesign Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-23-04 12:46 PM
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7. BULLSHIT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Hello??? I do recall that several of Clinton's inner circle were adamant about relaying the info to Condi Rice, Cheney, etc. during the transition. It was SO important that they had to literally fight them to be allowed time to brief them on it. ALSO.. WTF happened to the Rudman/Hart REPORT???? That was a VERY detailed account of the REAL threats we faced! What happened to that?? Remember folks? It was shelved by CHENEY, because HE wanted to develop his OWN recommendations... Hart/Rudman even proposed a Homeland Security office.. and Cheney disa-fucking-greed!!!

How can this supposed non-partisan Commission lie this way??? Or are they simply taking it from Bush (actually Cheney's) lips??

Is THIS why they are destroying Sandy Berger??? Wasn't HE one of the main people that briefed them on the VERY REAL threat of Al Quaida? I remember it being a BIG deal to Clinton, and Bush just shelved it.

:grr:
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DaveClearwater99 Donating Member (61 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-23-04 01:27 PM
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22. Feckless
Condi said they were feckless when they tried to warn her about Bin Laden.
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Momof1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-23-04 12:49 PM
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8. uhh, HELLO Did your Daddy warn you, considering he was
getting the PDB's all through Clintons 8 yrs?

That is one of the facts that I sooo loved about F9/11. Bush Sr, still continues to get all the Presidential briefings from the CIA.
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Stephanie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-23-04 01:00 PM
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14. So Poppy is getting the briefings all throughout Clinton's terms
And Poppy and Junior have personal business interests and old friends (Kenny Boy) that would benefit if some event occurred that would justify American intervention in the ME. So even before Junior is selected Poppy already knows that al Queda is coming to hit us.
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Momof1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-23-04 01:41 PM
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24. yep, I think that about covers it.
They are all freaking liars and crooks.
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msmcghee Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-23-04 01:25 PM
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21. Why do we allow past presidents . .
Edited on Fri Jul-23-04 01:25 PM by msmcghee
. . to get CIA intel briefings every day?

What is the justification for this?

Especially if those past presidents are working as highly paid lobbiests for the largest multinational defense related corporation in the world? (Carlyle Group).

This is outright criminal.
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Momof1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-23-04 01:40 PM
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23. All Presidents are allowed to do it, Bush Sr is the only one who
accepts the offer.
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KansDem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-23-04 12:53 PM
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9. Of course Bush would say this. He was given “lying privileges...”
Edited on Fri Jul-23-04 12:55 PM by KansDem
Remember, Bush was permitted to answer questions without taking an oath to tell the truth. And he had Cheney there to help him with his answers.

That’s what makes this 9/11 report bogus and fraudulent. Unless everybody takes an oath to tell the truth, the end result is suspect for we can assume that someone lied.

...edited to add that "someone" is Bush. Period.
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ewagner Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-23-04 12:54 PM
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10. Then why
did he appoint a "Terrorism Taskforce" and place Cheney in charge of it?

which, of course, never met..........
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Bush was AWOL Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-23-04 12:54 PM
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11. This is similar to their claim that he never
said that Saddam was behind 9/11.
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Mandate My Ass Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-23-04 12:56 PM
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12. That lie was already debunked long ago
bald-faced lying makes me :puke:
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tom_paine Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-23-04 12:57 PM
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13. Yep. Another LIEEEEE he will get away with.
God, I want to be OUT from under this Tyranny (yet still in the beautiful country called America) NOW!
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ClassWarrior Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-23-04 01:25 PM
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20. Yes!! He'll get away with EVERYTHING!!
Give up everybody!! It's hopeless!!! There's nothing we can do!!

<sarcasm off>


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tom_paine Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-23-04 01:42 PM
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25. NOBODY GIVE UP damnit! I AM NOT saying that!
NEVER GIVE UP!

However, I am simply stating the current track record, which is that they have gotten away with every single criminal act they have attempted since the Bloodless Coup of 2000.

I am sorry if you feel that pointing out the urgency of the situation by making examples upsets you. The situation that has allowed the Busheviks to thus far walk scot-free from 100+ crimes upsets me MORE.

IT IS NOT HOPELESS! THERE IS PLENTY WE CAN DO!

But sugarcoating the situation helps NOTHING.

Sorry I have upset you so.

Perhaps you'd like to point out for me where the Busheviks haven't "gotten away with it", mostly scot-free?

I am willing to change my tune and admit I am wrong if yuou can point out just ONE instance...
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Bucky Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-23-04 01:00 PM
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15. Clinton specifically told Bush that binLaden would be his biggest headache
Clinton's been saying this for 3 years. All Clinton admin sources say he was "obsessed" with bin Laden. Clinton's obsession, by the way, is one reason why our border check systems were alert enough to prevent the Millennium Plot, OBL's first whack at hitting us on our shores.
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hatrack Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-23-04 01:01 PM
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17. More Bush bullshit - check out this from "Ghost Wars"
Edited on Fri Jul-23-04 01:03 PM by hatrack
"Sandy Berger, who felt the first President Bush had failed to arrange adequate transition briefings on national security for the incoming Clinton team, vowed to run a handoff of the sort he would have wished to receive. The 'number one' issue on his agenda, he recalled, 'was terrorism and al Qaeda . . . we briefed them fully on what we were doing, and what else was under consideration and what the threat was.' Berger ordered each directorate in the National Security Council to write an issues memo for Rice and her deputy, Stephen Hadley. The memoes were then enhanced by oral briefings and slide show presentations. Berger himself attended only one, the session organized by Richard Clarke to talk about bin Laden and a Qaeda. 'I'm here because I want to underscore how important this issue is,' Berger explained to Rice. Later, in the West Wing of the White House, Berger told his successor, 'You're going to spend more time during your four years on terrorism generally and bin Laden specifically than any issue.'

The warnings did not register. The CIA briefed Bush's senior national security team about al Qaeda, but its officers sensed no deep interest. Rice, Cheney, Rumsfeld and Wolfowitz - the four with the strongest ideas and the most influence - had spent many months thinking and talking about what they would emphasize during their first one hundred days in the White House. They were focused on missile defense, military reform, China and Iraq. Neither terrorism nor South Asia was high on the list." - p. 541

Ghost Wars: The Secret History of the CIA, Afghanistan and bin Laden, from the Soviet Invasion to September 10, 2001, by Steve Coll.
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blm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-23-04 01:09 PM
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18. Wasn't there a Newsweek or TIME piece that said Bushies thought Clinton
Edited on Fri Jul-23-04 01:09 PM by blm
exaggerated the threat of terror and Bin Laden and that they deliberately ignored whatever Clinton was "obsessed" with?
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sadiesworld Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-23-04 01:19 PM
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19. Yep, it was TIME.
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Keirsey Donating Member (508 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-23-04 01:55 PM
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27. Let's make sure we discredit Berger before the 9/11 report is released
Sorry, schmucks, but we'll make sure the below quote about Berger hits political forums, newsrooms, and more. Your little scheme is going to blow up in your faces.

Sandy Berger, who felt the first President Bush had failed to arrange adequate transition briefings on national security for the incoming Clinton team, vowed to run a handoff of the sort he would have wished to receive. The 'number one' issue on his agenda, he recalled, 'was terrorism and al Qaeda . . . we briefed them fully on what we were doing, and what else was under consideration and what the threat was.' Berger ordered each directorate in the National Security Council to write an issues memo for Rice and her deputy, Stephen Hadley. The memoes were then enhanced by oral briefings and slide show presentations. Berger himself attended only one, the session organized by Richard Clarke to talk about bin Laden and a Qaeda. 'I'm here because I want to underscore how important this issue is,' Berger explained to Rice. Later, in the West Wing of the White House, Berger told his successor, 'You're going to spend more time during your four years on terrorism generally and bin Laden specifically than any issue.'


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Bernardo de La Paz Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-23-04 01:52 PM
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26. These Facts need more Visibility
These facts need more visibility.

Bush's statements to 9/11 commission.

Berger warning Rice she would spend more time on terrorism in general and Bin Laden in particular than any other issue.

The specific warnings in the Hart / Rudman report.

Cheney putting the terrorism task force on the shelf so he could help out Ken Lay and the energy corporations.

The way Richard Clark was ignored and pushed aside.

Bush demanding Richard Clark find a link to Iraq on their first meeting after 9/11.
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blm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-23-04 01:56 PM
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28. More: Janet Reno told Ashcroft that terrorism would be the issue he'd
end up spending the most time on. He didn't. and even as late as Sept.7 he did not INCLUDE terror in his top 7 budget priorities. Not till Sept.12.
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sadiesworld Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-23-04 02:05 PM
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29. You mean John "don't bother me w/ this terrorism stuff" Ashcroft?
What a friggin' joke. :puke:
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Straight Shooter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-23-04 02:13 PM
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30. Liar * Liar * Liar * Liar * Liar * Liar * Liar * Liar * Liar * Liar * Liar
:grr:
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opihimoimoi Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-23-04 02:27 PM
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31. The Hart/Rudman findings warned his ass...and he rejected it
Edited on Fri Jul-23-04 02:27 PM by opihimoimoi
I remember he said Cheney was taking the responibility to do the Terrorist Protection thing.... now they lying their way out...

Pubs, all they have are lies and deception....what a way to go in life.
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