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Bucky Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-23-04 06:40 PM
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Subject: What happens if there's a tie in the electoral college
The race could easily end up 269-269. You get that this way:

1. In the south, everything south of Virginia & Kentucky goes to Bush (yes, even Florida--gasp!)

2. Everything north of the Potomac, including New Hampshire and Pennsylvania, goes to Kerry.

3. West of the Mighty Miss, only New Mexico, California, Oregon, Washington, Hawaii, Iowa, and Minnesota go Kerry. Boxy states: Bush.

4. In the Great Lakes region, Illinois, Wisconsin, & Michigan go Kerry.

5. Indiana and Ohio go for Bush.

6. But Kerry wins in West Virginia.

Wallah! A tied Electoral College!

According to the Constitution, in that case the House of Representatives picks the president of the top three vote getters in the EC (but there's only two). The trick is, each state's delegaation gets to cast only one vote. Straight up states' rights, kids. Since the GOP tends to do better in small states, they'd win under the current Congress by a vote of 30 to 15.

Then the Senate would vote for the Vice President. If we can retake the Senate 51-49, (and assuming Pat Leahy doesn't jump the aisle to vote for his good buddy Dick Cheney), you would have a Bush-Edwards administration. But the chances of us winning two net seats in the Senate are pretty slim.

Bottom line, the Constitution could fuck our side for the second time in as many elections.
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havocmom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-23-04 06:42 PM
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1. SCOTUS shoots one of the candidates
:evilgrin:
Hey, it could happen.
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GreenPartyVoter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-23-04 06:43 PM
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2. Can't imagine which one. *lol*
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Eric J in MN Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-23-04 06:43 PM
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3. The vote would take place before a new Congress is sworn in (nt)
nt
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name not needed Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-23-04 06:43 PM
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4. Cage match to the death
War hero vs. War pig
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terrya Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-23-04 06:45 PM
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5. Think of it...Tom DeLay having a huge role choosing the next President.
Christ, I think it's time for a drink.
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ayeshahaqqiqa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-23-04 06:46 PM
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6. House of Reps calls the shots
This has happened before (Hayes/Tilden), and it is open season for deals and corruption.
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FighttheFuture Donating Member (748 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-23-04 06:51 PM
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7. It means the sheeple are still drinkng too much kool-aid and we...
need 4 more years of pain and decline to thin the heard and further solidify the freedom fighters!!



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lazarus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-23-04 06:52 PM
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8. btw
It's "voila", not "wallah". French.

/grammar geek
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SoDesuKa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-23-04 07:02 PM
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9. Pronounced VOY-lah
Although in the south of France, you sometimes hear voy-LAH.
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SoCalDem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-23-04 07:41 PM
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15. French people I know, say
Vwah-lah:)
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SoDesuKa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-24-04 03:33 PM
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19. I'd Say So
Yes they probably do pronounce it the French way. Those people never do anything right. Imagine oiseaux. What clumsy orthography.
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Bucky Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-23-04 07:22 PM
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12. but in Texas, li'l buddy,
We says "wallah." French just ain't in my repper-twah
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lazarus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-24-04 03:45 AM
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18. yeah
but I'm a spelling/grammar geek, so I had to say something. "Wallah" just isn't a word. :D
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Orangepeel Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-23-04 07:06 PM
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10. The current Senate would pick the VP
because the new Senators won't be sworn in yet. Besides, several of our guys would defect with the idea that the President should get the VP of his choice. That's the reason they gave for voting for Ashcroft and I doubt it would be different.
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wuushew Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-23-04 07:12 PM
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11. The taint of the 1824 and 1876 elections would be combined
n/t
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SoCalDem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-23-04 07:22 PM
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13. we lose
:(
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wuushew Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-23-04 07:29 PM
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14. I have calulated most of the likely combinations
(This does not split Maine or Nebraska)

CA,DE,HI,IL,MD,ME,MA,NJ,NY,RI,VT,DC,CT, = 172 votes Kerry Base

+

following list of ties mandatorially includes NM and WA which I feel are definitly going Kerry in 2004, and excludes TN,GA and VA which I have a gut feeling are going Bush.


423 Combinations


OH,AZ,MN,LA,CO,OR,IA,AR,NV,NM,WV,NH,
MI,WA,MO,MN,CO,OR,IA,AR,NV,NM,WV,NH,
MI,WA,MO,MN,LA,OR,IA,AR,NV,NM,WV,NH,
MI,WA,WI,AZ,MN,OR,IA,AR,NV,NM,WV,NH,
FL,WA,AZ,MN,OR,IA,AR,NV,NM,WV,NH,
FL,WA,WI,MN,OR,IA,AR,NV,NM,WV,NH,
OH,MI,WA,MN,OR,IA,AR,NV,NM,WV,NH,
FL,MI,WA,MN,IA,AR,NV,NM,WV,NH,
FL,MI,WA,MN,OR,AR,NV,NM,WV,NH,
PA,WA,MO,AZ,MN,CO,AR,NV,NM,WV,NH,
PA,WA,MO,WI,MN,CO,AR,NV,NM,WV,NH,
PA,WA,MO,AZ,MN,LA,AR,NV,NM,WV,NH,
PA,WA,MO,WI,MN,LA,AR,NV,NM,WV,NH,
OH,WA,MO,WI,AZ,MN,AR,NV,NM,WV,NH,
PA,OH,WA,AZ,MN,AR,NV,NM,WV,NH,
PA,OH,WA,WI,MN,AR,NV,NM,WV,NH,
PA,WA,MO,MN,LA,CO,IA,NV,NM,WV,NH,
PA,WA,WI,AZ,MN,CO,IA,NV,NM,WV,NH,
OH,WA,MO,AZ,MN,CO,IA,NV,NM,WV,NH,
OH,WA,MO,WI,MN,CO,IA,NV,NM,WV,NH,
PA,OH,WA,MN,CO,IA,NV,NM,WV,NH,
PA,WA,WI,AZ,MN,LA,IA,NV,NM,WV,NH,
OH,WA,MO,AZ,MN,LA,IA,NV,NM,WV,NH,
OH,WA,MO,WI,MN,LA,IA,NV,NM,WV,NH,
PA,OH,WA,MN,LA,IA,NV,NM,WV,NH,
PA,WA,MO,MN,LA,CO,OR,NV,NM,WV,NH,
PA,WA,WI,AZ,MN,CO,OR,NV,NM,WV,NH,
OH,WA,MO,AZ,MN,CO,OR,NV,NM,WV,NH,
OH,WA,MO,WI,MN,CO,OR,NV,NM,WV,NH,
PA,OH,WA,MN,CO,OR,NV,NM,WV,NH,
PA,WA,WI,AZ,MN,LA,OR,NV,NM,WV,NH,
OH,WA,MO,AZ,MN,LA,OR,NV,NM,WV,NH,
OH,WA,MO,WI,MN,LA,OR,NV,NM,WV,NH,
PA,OH,WA,MN,LA,OR,NV,NM,WV,NH,
MI,WA,MO,WI,AZ,MN,CO,NV,NM,WV,NH,
FL,WA,MO,AZ,MN,CO,NV,NM,WV,NH,
PA,MI,WA,AZ,MN,CO,NV,NM,WV,NH,
FL,WA,MO,WI,MN,CO,NV,NM,WV,NH,
PA,MI,WA,WI,MN,CO,NV,NM,WV,NH,
OH,MI,WA,MO,MN,CO,NV,NM,WV,NH,
FL,PA,WA,MN,CO,NV,NM,WV,NH,
MI,WA,MO,WI,AZ,MN,LA,NV,NM,WV,NH,
FL,WA,MO,AZ,MN,LA,NV,NM,WV,NH,
PA,MI,WA,AZ,MN,LA,NV,NM,WV,NH,
FL,WA,MO,WI,MN,LA,NV,NM,WV,NH,
PA,MI,WA,WI,MN,LA,NV,NM,WV,NH,
OH,MI,WA,MO,MN,LA,NV,NM,WV,NH,
FL,PA,WA,MN,LA,NV,NM,WV,NH,
OH,MI,WA,WI,AZ,MN,NV,NM,WV,NH,
FL,OH,WA,AZ,MN,NV,NM,WV,NH,
FL,OH,WA,WI,MN,NV,NM,WV,NH,
PA,WA,MO,AZ,MN,OR,IA,AR,NM,WV,NH,
PA,WA,MO,WI,MN,OR,IA,AR,NM,WV,NH,
WA,MO,WI,AZ,MN,LA,CO,IA,AR,NM,WV,NH,
PA,WA,AZ,MN,LA,CO,IA,AR,NM,WV,NH,
PA,WA,WI,MN,LA,CO,IA,AR,NM,WV,NH,
OH,WA,MO,MN,LA,CO,IA,AR,NM,WV,NH,
OH,WA,WI,AZ,MN,CO,IA,AR,NM,WV,NH,
OH,WA,WI,AZ,MN,LA,IA,AR,NM,WV,NH,
PA,MI,WA,MO,MN,IA,AR,NM,WV,NH,
WA,MO,WI,AZ,MN,LA,CO,OR,AR,NM,WV,NH,
PA,WA,AZ,MN,LA,CO,OR,AR,NM,WV,NH,
PA,WA,WI,MN,LA,CO,OR,AR,NM,WV,NH,
OH,WA,MO,MN,LA,CO,OR,AR,NM,WV,NH,
OH,WA,WI,AZ,MN,CO,OR,AR,NM,WV,NH,
OH,WA,WI,AZ,MN,LA,OR,AR,NM,WV,NH,
PA,MI,WA,MO,MN,OR,AR,NM,WV,NH,
MI,WA,MO,AZ,MN,LA,CO,AR,NM,WV,NH,
MI,WA,MO,WI,MN,LA,CO,AR,NM,WV,NH,
FL,WA,MO,MN,LA,CO,AR,NM,WV,NH,
PA,MI,WA,MN,LA,CO,AR,NM,WV,NH,
FL,WA,WI,AZ,MN,CO,AR,NM,WV,NH,
OH,MI,WA,AZ,MN,CO,AR,NM,WV,NH,
OH,MI,WA,WI,MN,CO,AR,NM,WV,NH,
FL,OH,WA,MN,CO,AR,NM,WV,NH,
FL,WA,WI,AZ,MN,LA,AR,NM,WV,NH,
OH,MI,WA,AZ,MN,LA,AR,NM,WV,NH,
OH,MI,WA,WI,MN,LA,AR,NM,WV,NH,
FL,OH,WA,MN,LA,AR,NM,WV,NH,
OH,WA,AZ,MN,LA,CO,OR,IA,NM,WV,NH,
OH,WA,WI,MN,LA,CO,OR,IA,NM,WV,NH,
MI,WA,MO,WI,AZ,MN,OR,IA,NM,WV,NH,
FL,WA,MO,AZ,MN,OR,IA,NM,WV,NH,
PA,MI,WA,AZ,MN,OR,IA,NM,WV,NH,
FL,WA,MO,WI,MN,OR,IA,NM,WV,NH,
PA,MI,WA,WI,MN,OR,IA,NM,WV,NH,
OH,MI,WA,MO,MN,OR,IA,NM,WV,NH,
FL,PA,WA,MN,OR,IA,NM,WV,NH,
MI,WA,WI,AZ,MN,LA,CO,IA,NM,WV,NH,
FL,WA,AZ,MN,LA,CO,IA,NM,WV,NH,
FL,WA,WI,MN,LA,CO,IA,NM,WV,NH,
OH,MI,WA,MN,LA,CO,IA,NM,WV,NH,
FL,MI,WA,MO,MN,IA,NM,WV,NH,
MI,WA,WI,AZ,MN,LA,CO,OR,NM,WV,NH,
FL,WA,AZ,MN,LA,CO,OR,NM,WV,NH,
FL,WA,WI,MN,LA,CO,OR,NM,WV,NH,
OH,MI,WA,MN,LA,CO,OR,NM,WV,NH,
FL,MI,WA,MO,MN,OR,NM,WV,NH,
FL,MI,WA,MN,LA,CO,NM,WV,NH,
PA,OH,WA,MO,AZ,MN,NM,WV,NH,
PA,OH,WA,MO,WI,MN,NM,WV,NH,
PA,WA,MO,AZ,MN,OR,IA,AR,NV,NM,NH,
PA,WA,MO,WI,MN,OR,IA,AR,NV,NM,NH,
WA,MO,WI,AZ,MN,LA,CO,IA,AR,NV,NM,NH,
PA,WA,AZ,MN,LA,CO,IA,AR,NV,NM,NH,
PA,WA,WI,MN,LA,CO,IA,AR,NV,NM,NH,
OH,WA,MO,MN,LA,CO,IA,AR,NV,NM,NH,
OH,WA,WI,AZ,MN,CO,IA,AR,NV,NM,NH,
OH,WA,WI,AZ,MN,LA,IA,AR,NV,NM,NH,
PA,MI,WA,MO,MN,IA,AR,NV,NM,NH,
WA,MO,WI,AZ,MN,LA,CO,OR,AR,NV,NM,NH,
PA,WA,AZ,MN,LA,CO,OR,AR,NV,NM,NH,
PA,WA,WI,MN,LA,CO,OR,AR,NV,NM,NH,
OH,WA,MO,MN,LA,CO,OR,AR,NV,NM,NH,
OH,WA,WI,AZ,MN,CO,OR,AR,NV,NM,NH,
OH,WA,WI,AZ,MN,LA,OR,AR,NV,NM,NH,
PA,MI,WA,MO,MN,OR,AR,NV,NM,NH,
MI,WA,MO,AZ,MN,LA,CO,AR,NV,NM,NH,
MI,WA,MO,WI,MN,LA,CO,AR,NV,NM,NH,
FL,WA,MO,MN,LA,CO,AR,NV,NM,NH,
PA,MI,WA,MN,LA,CO,AR,NV,NM,NH,
FL,WA,WI,AZ,MN,CO,AR,NV,NM,NH,
OH,MI,WA,AZ,MN,CO,AR,NV,NM,NH,
OH,MI,WA,WI,MN,CO,AR,NV,NM,NH,
FL,OH,WA,MN,CO,AR,NV,NM,NH,
FL,WA,WI,AZ,MN,LA,AR,NV,NM,NH,
OH,MI,WA,AZ,MN,LA,AR,NV,NM,NH,
OH,MI,WA,WI,MN,LA,AR,NV,NM,NH,
FL,OH,WA,MN,LA,AR,NV,NM,NH,
OH,WA,AZ,MN,LA,CO,OR,IA,NV,NM,NH,
OH,WA,WI,MN,LA,CO,OR,IA,NV,NM,NH,
MI,WA,MO,WI,AZ,MN,OR,IA,NV,NM,NH,
FL,WA,MO,AZ,MN,OR,IA,NV,NM,NH,
PA,MI,WA,AZ,MN,OR,IA,NV,NM,NH,
FL,WA,MO,WI,MN,OR,IA,NV,NM,NH,
PA,MI,WA,WI,MN,OR,IA,NV,NM,NH,
OH,MI,WA,MO,MN,OR,IA,NV,NM,NH,
FL,PA,WA,MN,OR,IA,NV,NM,NH,
MI,WA,WI,AZ,MN,LA,CO,IA,NV,NM,NH,
FL,WA,AZ,MN,LA,CO,IA,NV,NM,NH,
FL,WA,WI,MN,LA,CO,IA,NV,NM,NH,
OH,MI,WA,MN,LA,CO,IA,NV,NM,NH,
FL,MI,WA,MO,MN,IA,NV,NM,NH,
MI,WA,WI,AZ,MN,LA,CO,OR,NV,NM,NH,
FL,WA,AZ,MN,LA,CO,OR,NV,NM,NH,
FL,WA,WI,MN,LA,CO,OR,NV,NM,NH,
OH,MI,WA,MN,LA,CO,OR,NV,NM,NH,
FL,MI,WA,MO,MN,OR,NV,NM,NH,
FL,MI,WA,MN,LA,CO,NV,NM,NH,
PA,OH,WA,MO,AZ,MN,NV,NM,NH,
PA,OH,WA,MO,WI,MN,NV,NM,NH,
MI,WA,MO,AZ,MN,CO,OR,IA,AR,NM,NH,
MI,WA,MO,WI,MN,CO,OR,IA,AR,NM,NH,
FL,WA,MO,MN,CO,OR,IA,AR,NM,NH,
PA,MI,WA,MN,CO,OR,IA,AR,NM,NH,
MI,WA,MO,AZ,MN,LA,OR,IA,AR,NM,NH,
MI,WA,MO,WI,MN,LA,OR,IA,AR,NM,NH,
FL,WA,MO,MN,LA,OR,IA,AR,NM,NH,
PA,MI,WA,MN,LA,OR,IA,AR,NM,NH,
FL,WA,WI,AZ,MN,OR,IA,AR,NM,NH,
OH,MI,WA,AZ,MN,OR,IA,AR,NM,NH,
OH,MI,WA,WI,MN,OR,IA,AR,NM,NH,
FL,OH,WA,MN,OR,IA,AR,NM,NH,
FL,MI,WA,AZ,MN,IA,AR,NM,NH,
FL,MI,WA,WI,MN,IA,AR,NM,NH,
FL,MI,WA,AZ,MN,OR,AR,NM,NH,
FL,MI,WA,WI,MN,OR,AR,NM,NH,
PA,WA,MO,WI,AZ,MN,CO,AR,NM,NH,
PA,OH,WA,MO,MN,CO,AR,NM,NH,
PA,WA,MO,WI,AZ,MN,LA,AR,NM,NH,
PA,OH,WA,MO,MN,LA,AR,NM,NH,
PA,OH,WA,WI,AZ,MN,AR,NM,NH,
FL,MI,WA,MN,CO,OR,IA,NM,NH,
FL,MI,WA,MN,LA,OR,IA,NM,NH,
PA,WA,MO,AZ,MN,LA,CO,IA,NM,NH,
PA,WA,MO,WI,MN,LA,CO,IA,NM,NH,
OH,WA,MO,WI,AZ,MN,CO,IA,NM,NH,
PA,OH,WA,AZ,MN,CO,IA,NM,NH,
PA,OH,WA,WI,MN,CO,IA,NM,NH,
OH,WA,MO,WI,AZ,MN,LA,IA,NM,NH,
PA,OH,WA,AZ,MN,LA,IA,NM,NH,
PA,OH,WA,WI,MN,LA,IA,NM,NH,
PA,WA,MO,AZ,MN,LA,CO,OR,NM,NH,
PA,WA,MO,WI,MN,LA,CO,OR,NM,NH,
OH,WA,MO,WI,AZ,MN,CO,OR,NM,NH,
PA,OH,WA,AZ,MN,CO,OR,NM,NH,
PA,OH,WA,WI,MN,CO,OR,NM,NH,
OH,WA,MO,WI,AZ,MN,LA,OR,NM,NH,
PA,OH,WA,AZ,MN,LA,OR,NM,NH,
PA,OH,WA,WI,MN,LA,OR,NM,NH,
PA,MI,WA,MO,MN,LA,CO,NM,NH,
FL,WA,MO,WI,AZ,MN,CO,NM,NH,
PA,MI,WA,WI,AZ,MN,CO,NM,NH,
OH,MI,WA,MO,AZ,MN,CO,NM,NH,
FL,PA,WA,AZ,MN,CO,NM,NH,
OH,MI,WA,MO,WI,MN,CO,NM,NH,
FL,PA,WA,WI,MN,CO,NM,NH,
FL,OH,WA,MO,MN,CO,NM,NH,
PA,OH,MI,WA,MN,CO,NM,NH,
FL,WA,MO,WI,AZ,MN,LA,NM,NH,
PA,MI,WA,WI,AZ,MN,LA,NM,NH,
OH,MI,WA,MO,AZ,MN,LA,NM,NH,
FL,PA,WA,AZ,MN,LA,NM,NH,
OH,MI,WA,MO,WI,MN,LA,NM,NH,
FL,PA,WA,WI,MN,LA,NM,NH,
FL,OH,WA,MO,MN,LA,NM,NH,
PA,OH,MI,WA,MN,LA,NM,NH,
FL,OH,WA,WI,AZ,MN,NM,NH,
PA,WA,MO,MN,CO,OR,IA,AR,NV,NM,WV,
PA,WA,MO,MN,LA,OR,IA,AR,NV,NM,WV,
PA,WA,WI,AZ,MN,OR,IA,AR,NV,NM,WV,
OH,WA,MO,AZ,MN,OR,IA,AR,NV,NM,WV,
OH,WA,MO,WI,MN,OR,IA,AR,NV,NM,WV,
PA,OH,WA,MN,OR,IA,AR,NV,NM,WV,
OH,WA,AZ,MN,LA,CO,IA,AR,NV,NM,WV,
OH,WA,WI,MN,LA,CO,IA,AR,NV,NM,WV,
MI,WA,MO,WI,AZ,MN,IA,AR,NV,NM,WV,
FL,WA,MO,AZ,MN,IA,AR,NV,NM,WV,
PA,MI,WA,AZ,MN,IA,AR,NV,NM,WV,
FL,WA,MO,WI,MN,IA,AR,NV,NM,WV,
PA,MI,WA,WI,MN,IA,AR,NV,NM,WV,
OH,MI,WA,MO,MN,IA,AR,NV,NM,WV,
FL,PA,WA,MN,IA,AR,NV,NM,WV,
OH,WA,AZ,MN,LA,CO,OR,AR,NV,NM,WV,
OH,WA,WI,MN,LA,CO,OR,AR,NV,NM,WV,
MI,WA,MO,WI,AZ,MN,OR,AR,NV,NM,WV,
FL,WA,MO,AZ,MN,OR,AR,NV,NM,WV,
PA,MI,WA,AZ,MN,OR,AR,NV,NM,WV,
FL,WA,MO,WI,MN,OR,AR,NV,NM,WV,
PA,MI,WA,WI,MN,OR,AR,NV,NM,WV,
OH,MI,WA,MO,MN,OR,AR,NV,NM,WV,
FL,PA,WA,MN,OR,AR,NV,NM,WV,
MI,WA,WI,AZ,MN,LA,CO,AR,NV,NM,WV,
FL,WA,AZ,MN,LA,CO,AR,NV,NM,WV,
FL,WA,WI,MN,LA,CO,AR,NV,NM,WV,
OH,MI,WA,MN,LA,CO,AR,NV,NM,WV,
FL,MI,WA,MO,MN,AR,NV,NM,WV,
MI,WA,MO,AZ,MN,CO,OR,IA,NV,NM,WV,
MI,WA,MO,WI,MN,CO,OR,IA,NV,NM,WV,
FL,WA,MO,MN,CO,OR,IA,NV,NM,WV,
PA,MI,WA,MN,CO,OR,IA,NV,NM,WV,
MI,WA,MO,AZ,MN,LA,OR,IA,NV,NM,WV,
MI,WA,MO,WI,MN,LA,OR,IA,NV,NM,WV,
FL,WA,MO,MN,LA,OR,IA,NV,NM,WV,
PA,MI,WA,MN,LA,OR,IA,NV,NM,WV,
FL,WA,WI,AZ,MN,OR,IA,NV,NM,WV,
OH,MI,WA,AZ,MN,OR,IA,NV,NM,WV,
OH,MI,WA,WI,MN,OR,IA,NV,NM,WV,
FL,OH,WA,MN,OR,IA,NV,NM,WV,
FL,MI,WA,AZ,MN,IA,NV,NM,WV,
FL,MI,WA,WI,MN,IA,NV,NM,WV,
FL,MI,WA,AZ,MN,OR,NV,NM,WV,
FL,MI,WA,WI,MN,OR,NV,NM,WV,
PA,WA,MO,WI,AZ,MN,CO,NV,NM,WV,
PA,OH,WA,MO,MN,CO,NV,NM,WV,
PA,WA,MO,WI,AZ,MN,LA,NV,NM,WV,
PA,OH,WA,MO,MN,LA,NV,NM,WV,
PA,OH,WA,WI,AZ,MN,NV,NM,WV,
MI,WA,MO,MN,LA,CO,OR,IA,AR,NM,WV,
MI,WA,WI,AZ,MN,CO,OR,IA,AR,NM,WV,
FL,WA,AZ,MN,CO,OR,IA,AR,NM,WV,
FL,WA,WI,MN,CO,OR,IA,AR,NM,WV,
OH,MI,WA,MN,CO,OR,IA,AR,NM,WV,
MI,WA,WI,AZ,MN,LA,OR,IA,AR,NM,WV,
FL,WA,AZ,MN,LA,OR,IA,AR,NM,WV,
FL,WA,WI,MN,LA,OR,IA,AR,NM,WV,
OH,MI,WA,MN,LA,OR,IA,AR,NM,WV,
FL,MI,WA,MN,CO,IA,AR,NM,WV,
FL,MI,WA,MN,LA,IA,AR,NM,WV,
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ElsewheresDaughter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-23-04 07:50 PM
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16. Electoral College Primer
Edited on Fri Jul-23-04 07:52 PM by ElsewheresDaughter
In the event of a tie or a dispute-free numerical deadlock in the Electoral College, the House of Representatives - the new one,- would choose the next president. Under this process mandated by the Constitution, each state's congressional delegation casts one vote by secret ballot. This has occurred twice, in 1800 and 1824.

But what happens if the House fails to resolve the impasse and there's still no new president? Well, the Twentieth Amendment to the Constitutio says that the vice president-elect "shall act as president until a president shall have qualified." But let's assume that neither of the running mates - Republican or Democrat - attains an Electoral College majority, either.

In that case, the Senate would pick the vice-president elect by a simple majority - with each senator having one vote. And if the new Senate that meets on January 3 is split evenly along party lines over that question, then the current vice president would break the tie on who would succeed him as vice president, and thus serve as the acting president.

Failing all the above, the Twentieth Amendment further empowers the Congress to decide by law "who shall then act as President, or the manner in which one who is to act shall be selected, and such person shall act accordingly until a President or Vice President shall have qualified."

And you thought impeachment made your head spin.

In an interview before the election, Catholic University political scientist Mark Rozell said, "The procedure is clear under the Constitution, but a lot of people would be thoroughly confused if it happened. People need to be educated so there is not a sense that the winner comes to office lacking legitimacy."
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soothsayer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-23-04 08:20 PM
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17. Aren't some states allowed to split their electoral votes? I was
disappointed last time when it didn't happen, cuz it seems to me at least one state could have done it (don't recall which one, and never heard a soul talk about the possibility---I must have read it in some 'how electoral colleges work' thing.)
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stevedeshazer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-24-04 03:38 PM
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20. The states may choose as they wish
Only Nebraska and Maine can divide their electoral votes, as their legislators have mandated.
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ElsewheresDaughter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-24-04 03:41 PM
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21. only 2 states split electorial votes Maine and Nevada? or Arizona
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