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devilgrrl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-23-04 08:42 PM
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I've yet to believe that John Kerry is the same as Bush...
Give me a break! Other than the fact that they are both a couple of New England Bones men preppies - these two couldn't be farther apart! And if Kerry wins - that's good for America.

Personally, up to the last few days I was ABB but was terribly disappointed when my fave candidates petered out and Kerry was left as the choice. However, I've warmed up to him, despite that he's kind of boring and is really a centrist.

One thing that helped was an interview I saw that Peter Jennings did with Kerry yesterday. He asked pointed questions about his allegedly controversial position on abortion, flip-flopping, etc... and I have to admit that Kerry did an impressive job answering them. He came across as an intelligent, coherent, thoughtful man, someone who enjoys thinking and probably cares about things that effect average citizens.

This is going to sound silly but the only thing that bugs me about him is that he's basically another old money Blue-blood and the 'Skull & Bones' thing really annoys me. I'm sick of those secret societies...

What can I say? I'm still voting for him. :shrug:
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Warren DeMontague Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-23-04 08:50 PM
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1. That's it! You're out of the club, leave the treehouse at once!
You just lost all your cred, you sellout! Turn in your forehead piercings and your blue hair dye, your torn anarchy shirt and your Rage Against The Machine posters.. Why, we're not even going to let you participate the next time we "stick it to the man" by denting mailboxes, breaking windows, and spray-painting stop signs on Market Street.

John Kerry and George Bush are identical. I mean, except for the fact that Bush wants to cancel elections, turn the US into a corporo-fascist dictatorship, and stands to appoint judges somewhere to the right of Torquemada to the supreme court, is mortgaging our kids' futures to line the pockets of Bechtel and Halliburton to boot, and will probably start at least one more war the minute he steals another election (The weather channel says 95% chance of it being Iran) ...yeah, they're totally identical, man! Sellout! Now, if you'll excuse me, I'm late for my ceremonial maskmaking class.
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clydefrand Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-23-04 08:51 PM
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2. I'm glad you are going to vote for Kerry
I've been observing him for years on television and I've always been impressed by his thoughtful approach to problems. Issues have many sides and nuances. I think he's smart enough to see them whereas Bush only knows stupid things like "Bring 'em on." Kerry outshines him by mega, mega, mega watts. I think he'll be an asset to this country IF the congress doesn't do everything in its power to block his initiatives.
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soothsayer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-23-04 08:52 PM
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3. The parties may be far too cozy and simpatico agenda-wise, but
Kerry will deliver us some good stuff (environmental stuff for sure, that dumbass has trashed) and we can try to work with him to do more.

Nevertheless, globalism marches on, and whatever the major agenda of the real powers-that-be is, that's where we're headed and there's not much we can do about it. It's not REALLY a free society we live in, you know. Mostly an illusion.
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Rebellious Republican Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-23-04 09:11 PM
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4. I was ABB to, I had my own Idea of who I preferred as a candidate
Edited on Fri Jul-23-04 09:17 PM by Rebellious Republica
My hopeful dropped from the race, but that did not phase me in the least. I jumped on the Kerry bandwagon when it was apparent that he was the one.

I have no problems what so ever with his lineage,show me one person that has nothing in there background that someone can not make a stink about and I will show you the resurrected Christ! At least that "old blue blood" volunteered to go to the worst hell hole in Vietnam, or as some Vietnam vets would say, "he was in the shit".

He did not get 5 college deferments, he was not flying around the friendly skies of Texas, when he was not to busy campaigning for his daddy's buddy. He is an honorable human being with the interests of the common man at heart and I truly believe this about him.

I would be equally zealous toward any of the candidates that were to be nominated, we had an incredible field of candidates to choose from this time around, it was exciting.

But now its time to unite and get behind the chosen candidate and stop quibbling over non issues.


So if you are truly ABB, then none of that would matter. Talk about a back handed compliment, you do not sound very ABB to me, I hope you do not strain yourself getting to the polls.

:shrug:






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TexasProgresive Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-23-04 09:37 PM
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5. Kerry, Can't be a New England blue blood,
since he's Irish Catholic, Jewish - I think they made a mistake letting him into Skull and Bones. You can't be a New England Blue blood unless your family is traced back to ye olde Mayflower. Being born there and going to Yale does nothing to change that. As a Vermonter once said in reference to children born in Vermont, "You don't call kittens born in the oven, cookies." That's the attitude of that elite set of people.
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mike_c Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-23-04 10:59 PM
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6. purple isn't red...
...but neither is Green.
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Murdock Donating Member (315 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-23-04 11:06 PM
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7. Kerry's a definite improvement..
Beyond the obvious, after Kerry wins, it will set up an adversarial relationship with congress (I anticipate the House staying in Republican Hands), so Kerry's going to be forced to move toward the middle and Congress will be forced to move toward the middle as well, we won't be getting these neo-con abominations like the Medicare Bill..

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GreenPartyVoter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-23-04 11:12 PM
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8. Are the DNC and GOP similar to each other? More than I would like them to
Edited on Fri Jul-23-04 11:14 PM by GreenPartyVoter
be, yes. Are Kerry and Bush a lot alike? No. Kerry is a sane centrist (liberal in some areas but more conservative than I would like in others.) Bush---freaking nutcase, megolamaniac, fascist with illusions of being divinely appointed. I think the choice between those two men is clear.

As to the issue of the two parties, I have some thoughts on that in this post: http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=104&topic_id=2052333&mesg_id=2053990&page=

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