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southernleftylady Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-23-04 09:27 PM
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Why did they pick W?
Out of all the righties they could choose from why bush?
just because his name? i mean the man is an idiot! I have never understood that...:shrug:
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WI_DEM Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-23-04 09:29 PM
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1. it really doesn't make sense does it?
His dad wasn't the darling of the right wingers which is one reason why Pat B ran against him in '92, but I guess the son said all the right things and was able to raise a ton of money and in politics it's money which talks.
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opihimoimoi Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-23-04 09:30 PM
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3. Why? He seemed like the Perfect Puppet.....until they heard him speak...
by that time, it was too late....
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Moonbeam_Starlight Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-23-04 09:30 PM
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2. I honestly think a lot of them
have been asking themselves the SAME question for about the past year or so.

Just think: if they had been smart and nominated McCain, things might be a hell of a lot easier for them right now.

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ThomWV Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-23-04 09:32 PM
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4. A Compliant Oaf
The idiot had shown his drone capabilities in working for the campaigns of others. He wasn't likely to make any noise because he had never had an original thought. He would take orders from Poppy or Poppy's surogate, Cheney. He was adicted to the tit of money and influence and he had no concept of good and evil other than what he could feel he controled was good and what he could not control was bad. He had name recognition and could be relied on to stick with whatever script was put in front of him because there wasn't a chance of him comming up with an original thought. In short the perfect candidate for Poppy.
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finecraft Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-23-04 10:12 PM
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24. The "republicans" didn't pick bush, the neocons did.
They really are two very distinctly different groups of people. The neocons are more like parasites, living on and feeding off of a weak host, and the republican party is theirs. I agree with you...Jr. is a perfect front for them...a village idiot that could care less about anything else other than his ego. I'm sure they tell him every day that if he listens to them and do as they say he will continue to be the "greatest president ever"....and the idiot eats it up.
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tanyev Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-23-04 09:37 PM
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5. Wasn't it supposed to be Jeb?
I've read this theory before. When they both ran for governor in 1996(?), the family was astonished that Jeb lost. So astonished that it stole some of the thunder from W's win. Maybe the real problem was that it upset the apple cart of the master plan.
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K-W Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-23-04 09:38 PM
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6. That and Jebs wife had an untimely scandal. EOM
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Jade Fox Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-23-04 09:38 PM
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7. Because he at least seemed to be the perfect combination of...
Upper Class connections and Conservative Christian values, masked
by a benign image.

I have no doubt they are taking turns kicking each other now because
of choosing him. He may be advancing the Neo-con agenda, but he
is also alienating people all over the world.

Oh, and he is going to lose the election in Nov.
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physioex Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-23-04 09:38 PM
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8. That is a good question and I have been thinking the same thing..
SLL you have seen the ads for the movie The Manchurian Candidate. I have not seen the movie, but the story goes something like this. You get a person who the average American would find likeable, and take him aside and manipulate him with some technology. Have him him wrap himself in the American flag, and somehow scare the people that their enemies hate this country and its freedoms. Then finally throw all your money behind this man to get him elected. Once the man finally reaches power, you have an individual that you can manipulate to feed your desires. Like an return on investment.

I think the concept of this movie is great, but it is flawed in a sense. I don't there is a need for technology at all. You could take a much more low tech approach. You would need people that are very good psychologists, and you would need some type of narcotic or mind control medication. Once you find the right profile, you can manipulate him with medicine and advisors. This would essentially have the same effect as a Manchurian Candidate.

I know this sounds like a conspiracy theory, but I think this is entirely possible....
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DieboldMustDie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-23-04 10:39 PM
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31. Have you seen Paul Krugman's recent article "The Arabian Candidate"?
"In the original version of 'The Manchurian Candidate,' Senator John Iselin, whom Chinese agents are plotting to put in the White House, is a right-wing demagogue modeled on Senator Joseph McCarthy. As Roger Ebert wrote, the plan is to 'use anticommunist hysteria as a cover for a communist takeover.'

"The movie doesn't say what Iselin would have done if the plot had succeeded. Presumably, however, he wouldn't have openly turned traitor. Instead, he would have used his position to undermine national security, while posing as America's staunchest defender against communist evil.

"So let's imagine an update - not the remake with Denzel Washington, which I haven't seen, but my own version. This time the enemies would be Islamic fanatics, who install as their puppet president a demagogue who poses as the nation's defender against terrorist evildoers.

"The Arabian candidate wouldn't openly help terrorists. Instead, he would serve their cause while pretending to be their enemy."
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http://www.truthout.org/docs_04/072104D.shtml
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physioex Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-24-04 12:09 AM
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36. Yes, Very good..Thank You..EOM
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AlCzervik Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-23-04 09:40 PM
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9. He is a totally empty vessel
I think that was a huge plus for the rightwing.
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mike1963 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-23-04 09:47 PM
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13. Ding, Ding! Yep, like a dry sponge. But a bit less intelligent.
;-)
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AlCzervik Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-23-04 09:51 PM
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15. New Campaign slogan
Bush...less intelligent than a sponge but not as dry.
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K-W Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-23-04 09:43 PM
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10. Because he's a Bush
And the Bush's are major power players in the party.

Its as simple as that, with his family and thier connections, Bush was able to meet and woo the right people. He made nice nice with the neocons and with powerful business men. His family and friends made the right deals.
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physioex Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-23-04 09:44 PM
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11. Yea...Maybe he managed to make a couple of bucks for himself...
But has he screwed everything else up royally....
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K-W Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-23-04 09:49 PM
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14. The republican party is a scary place.
Edited on Fri Jul-23-04 09:50 PM by K-W
It runs on backroom deals and powerbrokers. All they care about is winning, winning at any cost. Each faction in the coalition has thier agenda items and they dont care how many people die in the process, they want to create a new america, one that looks alot like old america, but mixed with facism too.
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InkAddict Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-23-04 09:44 PM
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12. Coked up, easily suggestable "Cowboyian" Candidate
or maybe this: Scenario: (Phone rings): Q: Is this Dubya? A: Yes Q: The woods are lovely dark and deep and I have miles to go before I sleep, remember, Dubya, miles to go before you sleep...a la "Telefon"

These might explain his missing TANG time???

:smoke:

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Indy65 Donating Member (49 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-23-04 10:20 PM
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27. Ink Addict
I think you are right one, of my favorite movies.
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Cat Atomic Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-23-04 09:53 PM
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16. Because they wanted another Reagan.
Actaually, they wanted a BETTER Reagan: completely incurious, stupid, and anxious to be led around. Bush Jr. fits the bill perfectly.
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Stephanie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-23-04 10:26 PM
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28. And a fairly good performer
Like Reagan, Bush is a B-list actor. But he's not bad. He doesn't know what he's saying but he can deliver a line.
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Matilda Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-23-04 11:54 PM
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33. He can?
Please - name just one instance where he delivered a line and got
the words right.
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Stephanie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-24-04 08:55 AM
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37. He mangles the words
Edited on Sat Jul-24-04 09:15 AM by Stephanie
But watch him speak - he's aping the delivery of a preacher. Watch him. He's got it down pretty good. He's like a mediocre actor.

Just like Reagan. Reagan didn't know what he was saying either, but he could say it in the correct tone.
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Bonhomme Richard Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-23-04 09:58 PM
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17. In my opinion, Reagan was the neocons first......................
Edited on Fri Jul-23-04 09:59 PM by Oz
attempt to get someone disconneced to the office elected President and I think it went pretty much thier way until the Nicaragua and the Iran/Contra deal surfaced and began to unravel. One thing Reagan did care about, an actor, was his image and I think deep down he did have a conscience.
When they planned to get back in power I think they knew exactly what they were looking for. Someone with name recognition that would play to the public but most importantly someone disconnected with no conscience whatsoever. They found it in bush and even then would have lost if not for calling in markers on thier supreme court stooges.
A shallow, immoral cheerleader and that's exactly what they got.
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K-W Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-23-04 10:03 PM
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18. You guys act like the people who picked him didnt have his last name.
As if he was some schmo of the street. And 'they' picked him as an outsider.

He is a Bush. His family is part of the 'they' that picks people. His father is an ex pres, his brother and he were governers. They are one of the most powerful cliques in the republican party.
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troublemaker Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-23-04 10:04 PM
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19. Conservatives are monarchists. (Yes, all of them.)
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kentuck Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-23-04 10:04 PM
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20. Because he had 10 times more money than anyone else...
He had over $200 million....no other Repub could compete with him... And the Repub faithful felt secure with all that money...it was more important than the candidate...
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K-W Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-23-04 10:06 PM
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21. The Bush's united corporate wealth and neocon ideology
it couldnt have possibly been anyone else.
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Cleita Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-23-04 10:09 PM
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22. He plays very well to a rather large idiot base.
This is the reason they shoe-horned Ahnold in California. He could be credible here.
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peacetalksforall Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-23-04 10:11 PM
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23. The per cent of people driving the Repub Party agenda is
significant, but not significant enough to carry an election, so they had to join forces with fetus lovers, gun lovers, tax revisionists, fundamentalist preachers and followers, plain bigots and all those people who detest foreigners (those born with their history gene missing), and smaller factions such as brainwashed military personnel. The latter groups like plain talk, back slapping see-through jokes, shallow messages, and the fervency of a belief in God and/or Armeggedon. They don't mind it when people like George make mistakes because it makes them more down to earth like themselves.

This is a strange marriage of real down home types when they are coupled with the monied people and operatives - the bankers, lawyers, CEO's, military brass, propaganda specialists, think tankers, earth polluters and thieves, plus the policy and agenda designers and facilitators and those who assist in the intelligence units and cabinet seats, plus those who've always been Republicans because they believe in the economics of the Republican Party.

This combined Party reflects the prototype for the entire agenda of the right wing reach - the safety, growth, and future of the rich with everyone else serving them. The servers dig up the gold and uranium that goes into the pockets of a few. That's the way they like it and that is why they chose Bush.
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I Am the Walrus Donating Member (4 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-23-04 10:17 PM
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25. why did they pick w
obviously because they are fools and don't have the sense to come in out of the rain its raining here and am i outside???? nooooo because i am not stupid i didn't vote for bush and there fore i am not a fool only fools will vote for someone that makes it rain on them and get them all wet and hates the world i don't hate the world i love it the world is all we got and he is trying to blow it up then where will we live if the world is gone i don't think we can live on another planet yet although if we do i hope it is somewhere with lower gravity then we won't have to worry about all those fad diets because we will have lost weight although i suppose that would be cheating but then who hasn't cheated on a diet i but bush has i bet bush has cheated on alot of things he probably cheated at jacks when he was a kid i knew a kid that used to do that but he wasn't bush he is probably voting for him tho cuz he used to stand in the rain and cry that he was getting wet i think he died in a tragic drug related incident tho
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southernleftylady Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-23-04 10:27 PM
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29. LOL !!!! n/t
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Wapsie B Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-23-04 10:35 PM
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30. The thing that showed me that something was rotten in '00
was the way they kicked McCain out of the race. Sure politics is dirty. But McCain could've legitimately won the thing if the gop stood behind him. I knew Dems that were ready to vote for him.
But no, the powers that be wanted another empty suit, a puppet. The puppet would be on TV acting presidential. The henchmen would be in the background doing the dirty work similar to what went on in the Reagan White House.
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homelandpunk Donating Member (787 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-23-04 10:43 PM
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32. Because his ass-crack allows Cheney's arm an easy, comfortable fit (n/t)
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thebigidea Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-23-04 11:56 PM
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34. he's a lapdog trained well enough to not shit on the carpet
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doubleplusgood Donating Member (810 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-24-04 12:09 AM
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35. vengeance
In 2000, George W. Bush was the Republican's "vengeance" candidate. The GOP, still smarting from Bush Sr's drubbing by Clinton in 1992, was eager to gain revenge by having Bush Jr. get back at Clinton by beating Gore. The thought of having Clinton stand on the inaugural platform handing power back to the Bush family was just too tempting, IMHO. In a way, it was sort of like the Nazis, in 1940, demanding that France capitulate to the Germans in the same railroad car that the Germans had surrendered in 1918.
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