It is clearly a fact that George W. Bush was Awol!

[trumad]

We've given Dubya the last year to prove that he served in Alabama and he hasn't come up with the proof. Now finally, the records during that time have come out and it shows he just wasn't there...

So...George W. Bush went AWOL ....

[kentuck]

1. It also shows that he is a lying and deceitful person....

and will continue to lie and deceive to keep people from knowing the truth.

[Pepperbelly]

2. i spent some time in the reserves after my 4 yrs active ... and

it was sacrosanct: if you didn't sign in at muster, you didn't get paid.

[trumad]

5. And he didn't get paid..

Think about all of this... He said to Tim Russert that he would release all his records... He released the records for all his recorded service but did not release records of the months that were originally in question. The AP sues to get the remaining records and low and behold, they were reported destroyed. THEN a report comes out that there were other records in Texas. NOW...Walla! They magically reappear in Denver. This has been the most calculated release of records in the history of the U.S Government. ;-)

And you know what...It just may work... If you stretch our wonderful press out of a couple of years, they'll simply lose interest. The Commander in Chief was AWOL during his Military career and it's just not that BFD! Go figure...

[cthrumatrix]

14. the truth is the media won't push for the truth after being promised the

data.

[Pepperbelly]

15. my point exactly. The only POSSIBLE dodge the gops might try ...

would be to claim that he just didn't bother to sign in.

Which of course begs the question but they are very good at attempting that.

[robertjones2001]

16. The secret record pit in Texas

I think that the possibility of the AP lawsuit cracking the seal on ALL the records in Texas is what caused them to go ahead and "find" these military records in Denver. Once the cork is out of the bottle on the secret record stash in Texas, Poppy Bush and Baby Boy (and many more of their criminal cronies) will be exposed to crimes not yet imagined.

[newyawker99]

19. Hi robertjones2001!!

Welcome to DU!! :toast:

[KharmaTrain]

3. Muddle...Muddle...Distract...Oh Didn't You Remember...

This smells so much like that crap when the Abu Grahb stuff came out. The regime wondering why all the outrage at the torture since <i>a report had come out about it several months ago</i>...as if this innoculated the regime from responsibility. And you know? It pretty much worked. The media got tired of beating the videos to death and assumed the regime's spin that this was being investigated, there's no more story here and to move on. Being good lap dogs, the media has. It's as though they're now avoiding this story since either it's "already been done" or just doesn't have the sizzle of bashing Kerry or going after Clinton's penis.

Boy Blunder was AWOL...no question and now I keep wondering what it'll take to get the next question on the table...if Junior wasn't in Alabama in the Summer of '72, where was he? I still remember where I was that summer (and have the pictures and witnesses to prove it) how about Junior? When will we hear about that half-way house in Houston? Talk about the real story that isn't being covered.

[trumad]

6. IMRadioactive

LOL... Our posts have the same flavor.... Exactly.

[KharmaTrain]

7. Thanks Trumad...This Thing Really Smells

It's not only so orchestrated, it's so damn clumsy.

It'd be one thing if this was personell records or some unique type of document, but these are military records that millions had to fill out at the time and are some of the most public of records a person can have. I have my father's papers from WWII...even the paystubs and the will he wrote right before he went off to England in 1943.

The press avoids this boy's past like he's got pictures of them and his cocker spaniel in a Motel 6. Where's the stories about that summer of '72? J. Hatfield is the only one who had the stones to find out and I guess that's scared all the rest of the media...no one goes close to that story now.

This is even more of a pisser when I hear some monkey call C-SPAN a few minutes ago wailing about Kerry's military record and how he got all his medals. Fortunately the Boston Globe reporter blew him away by making the simple comparison of who was in Vietnam and who wasn't. That story on Bunnypants now is sticking...this is damage control lest he loses more of that fake image of being a "war leader".

Honestly, anything we learn about *'s past really doesn't matter at this point. I think we should just focus on his current "abilities". That Bill Mahrer line about him choking on 9/11 is one of the best soundbites I've heard all year and hope it gets a lot of play.

Trumad, I enjoy your posts and topics and keep up bringing up the truth...it sets us all free.

Cheers

[trumad]

8. Clumsy indeed... but brazenly clumsy...

That's how far our press has fallen...Rove and gang don't care anymore... They know how lazy the press has become and they simply let it ride... One thing I do have to say though... The bits and pieces that the press has reported on have indeed stuck and it has become a great counter to anything negative about Kerry's record. The repukes must now tread lightly on anything regarding JK's military career...

[KharmaTrain]

12. It's "No I'm Not Screwing The Secretary"...

I forget the movie, but this regime reminds me of the man who is caught corpus delecti with his secretary by his wife who shows great outrage at seeing this. She starts yelling at him and he casually gets up, starts dressing and all throughout looks at his wife and says "I don't know what you're talking about"...she keeps screaming at him and he just gets up and walks away as if nothing happened. This is how this regime handles the media.

Yep, Rove's played on the media's laziness and ego and does so masterfully, still. This is another untold story...how the "media" has gotten so insular that it now is easily manipulated. With cable news, they've created this new money pool...it revolves around their appearances on food fights like Tweety's or regular appearances with Woodruff and dovetails into writing books and making speeches. A well-viewed "journalist" can double their outside earnings as an "expert". Rove plays on this big time when he picks his pets. Access gives one a leg up when it comes to being called by Faux or MSGOP or CNN (as does being on Scotty's good list) which can mean an extra paycheck and visibility. It's such a sham.

[KharmaTrain]

4. Ooops...Double-Punched...

Haven't done that one in a long time...sorry!

[Bonhomme Richard]

9. The fact he wasn't discharged as a Captain says it all

If he did the time he would have made Captain just for time served if for no other reason. That's the way it worked.

[magnolia]

10. I wish....

...someone had the balls to ask Bush if it's okay for a National Guard member who is suppose to go to Iraq, to instead CHOOSE to campaign for the candidate of their choice.

[TexasProgresive]

11. From someone who served in the 147th at Ellington AFB-

I wonder why Dumbya doesn't just release his "undeleted" (that's a DOD official term) DD-214. My history in the Air Guard is similar to Dumb's with several exceptions. I was on a long waiting list to get in (enlisted Dec 69), was not an officer, did transfer from Texas to Delaware and back to Texas and was present at all drill weekends and summer training.

Now back to that undeleted DD-214. My DD-214 shows my beginning enlistment at Ellington, it also shows 3 Honorable Discharges. I was discharged from the 147th and enlisted in the 166th, discharged from the 166th and enlisted in the 147th and the final discharge from the 147th. What I would like to see is Dumpya's enlistment and discharge from the Alabama unit. I don't think he was ever in that unit and this would make him AWOL and ultimately a deserter from the 147th in Texas. He should've been arrested by the FBI and returned to Texas in chains. That would've been my fate if I tried such a thing.

They drummed it into my head that when transferring you have 45 days to enlist in another unit. I made sure that I was already accepted for enlistment before I got that discharge. I knew that there was no one of influence protecting me.

[r_u_stuck2]

13. I was in the NG from '69 - '75

I was in the Alabama and Florida NG. I worked in a Headquarters & Heardquarters company typing personnel records and Special Orders.

The reporters are looking in the wrong place. They need to look at all the Special Orders from each unit Bush served in. Any deviation from normal drill dates or any special detachment orders will be there. Believe me, nobody goes anywhere without Special Orders.

All a good reporter needs to do is to get to a person who was assigned as a full time employee at the National Guard unit that knows the in's and outs of personnel records. Anyone who has served in that capacity also knows about "Morning Reports" These also reflect the number and rank of everyone who shows up for drill.

[Mr_Spock]

17. Well, they need to issue the arrest warrant ASAP. Bush need to go to jail

What are we waiting for?

[rocktivity]

18. He's a DESERTER, not AWOL

He's a DOUBLE deserter because each time he was AWOL for more than 30 days.

Sean Hannity's theory is that Bush was flying secret missions on a Stealth fighter. The missions may have been so secret that there couldn't be a record of Georgie flying out of TANG. But were they so secret that he couldn't be paid? Hmmm--well, a guy as rich as Georgie could have offered to fly the missions for free...yeah, yeah, that's the ticket!

Obviously, this was meant to be a weapon of mass distraction from the start of the Dem convention and the release of the 9/11 report. The Bush White House knew perfectly well that the new records would be insultingly inconclusive. But the find would allow the mainstream media to trumpet "The records have been found! The controversy is over!" and Georgie to say, "Aw, shucks! I proved I served honorably--that's ancient history now." Well, here's my conclusion: The new records make it official that THE UNITED STATES HAS A MILITARY DESERTER AS A COMMANDER IN CHIEF.

By the way, let's remember to be grateful to the people who made the AWOL story viable. If Wesley Clark had backed down when Peter Jennings tried to "gotcha!" him by asking if Michael Moore should be calling Bush a deserter, this issue would still be submerged under the mainstream media's radar!

:headbang:
rocknation

[JCMach1]

20. Absofreakin'lutely