Armed militants drive through the streets of Fallujah - Not trying to hide

[dArKeR]

Armed militants drive through the streets of Fallujah, Iraq (news - web sites), chanting pro-resistance slogans after battles with U.S. forces in this June 24, 2004, file photo. In the month since becoming interim prime minister, Iyad Allawi has armed himself with tough new powers and spoke of restoring the death penalty. He has also raised the possibility of an amnesty for insurgents to end the violence wracking this Arab nation. But many Iraqis dismiss Allawi's plans as much talk and no action; and it's in turbulent cities like Ramadi and nearby Fallujah _ hotbeds of anti U.S. resistance _ that the Iraqi leader must succeed if he is to ensure his political survival. (AP Photo/Abdul-Kadr Saadi, File)

http://story.news.yahoo.com/news?tmpl=story&u=/040724/481/bag10907241706

Nothing but lies and playing to the American citizens: talking and bombing, 'safe houses'. As we've seen for 1 years plus now, the Iraqi rebels aren't trying to hide from anyone. They know there are reporters, cameras on them and they still don't try to hide their faces!

If things were going as Heir Bush says wouldn't it be logical that our army just looks at these public photos then go arrest these people?

[KG]

1. the US military got its butt kicked in Fallujah,

the resistance reigns there.

the US military will eventually cut and run from iraq.

this article by scott ritter explains why.

http://www.commondreams.org/views04/0723-08.htm

[rfkrocks]

2. what is sad to contemplate is what the future of Iraq will become

I don't think Shrub believes we own Iraq anymore even though we broke it-it is clearly a country of 3 separate parts now-I think the Sunnis in this picture will pay a high price (like the Americans did in Fallujah) if they try to subjugate the Kurds-the Shiites won't go back under the Sunnis-you have got to wonder if "friendly" Islamic states will carve up what they can-Turkey to the North and Iran to the south-nobody is talking about the Iraqis people now-more bad times in store-You post is true, the American military has backed out and that is not being reported (but Kobe's trial is!)-but I wonder what happens next?

[Doctor_J]

3. it will be just like afghanistan soon -

run by the gangs and warlords, basically complete chaos. All our billions of dollars and thousands of lives did was a) make a show of removing a limp, defenseless dictator, and b) sign tax dollars over to Cheney and friends. Another huge success for Smirk - just like his tries at HS, college, grad school, business, and parenting.

[MGKrebs]

4. The Powell Doctrine was pretty good,

but I guess, as in all things Bush*, it doesn't matter if it's good, if it doesn't prop up the Monkeypuppet it must go.


Is a vital US interest at stake? Only if you count oil.

Will we commit sufficient resources to win? Perhaps we could have if Rummy wasn't so blinded by his "smaller, lighter, faster" chimera.

Are the objectives clearly defined? Oh, I think they have tried to make the objectives as UNCLEAR as possible.

Will we sustain the commitment? Even if we are wrong?

Is there reasonable expectation that the public and Congress will support the operation? Sure! If we lie to them!

Have we exhausted our other options? Hmm. Let me check with Hans Blix....