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mom cat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-24-04 01:39 PM
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The Puzzling 9/11 Report ***** by SIBEL EDMONDS !!!!!!!!!!
July 24, 2004
The Puzzling 9/11 Report

by Sibel Edmonds
The countdown is finally over, and a 567-page 9/11 Commission report is out. According to the Commission Chairman, they have seen "every single document" and have interviewed "every single relevant witness and authority." According to all Commission members, this report should be considered a resounding success, since it encompasses all information relevant to the terrorist attacks of 9/11, and very little, almost none, has been redacted, classified, or glossed over. Yet we have heard no one screaming "classification," "sensitive diplomatic relations," "highly sensitive foreign business relations," or "national security implications." This is highly puzzling and curious.

This puzzles me, considering that every investigation by the Congress and the Inspector General (IG) into my issues, every report involving my already-confirmed allegations involving serious lapses within the FBI, and every legal procedure and due process dealing with my case alone, has been blocked, gagged, entirely classified, and stopped. It is extremely curious that while investigations and reports on one case alone has created so much havoc, a massive investigation and a report involving all intelligence agencies and other government bodies, including the State Department, has evoked zero objections based on "sensitive foreign relations," "highly classified intelligence matters," and/or "ongoing intelligence investigations."

This puzzles me, knowing the detailed information I myself provided to the commission during a three and a half hour tape-recorded briefing, yet finding only one footnote (footnote 25) briefly stating insufficient translation capability within the FBI. It is highly curious that the report mentions nothing regarding the "intentionally blocked translations by certain Middle Eastern Translators, who also breached FBI security, as confirmed by the Senate Judiciary"; nothing regarding "adamant resistance to investigations of certain terrorist and criminal activities; refusing to transfer them to counterterrorism from existing counterintelligence investigations, solely based on the vague notion of protecting certain foreign relations"; nothing regarding "continued efforts to cover up certain highly specific information received prior to September 11, even now, years after 9/11"; and nothing regarding "knowingly allowing certain individuals, directly or indirectly related to terrorist activities, to leave the United States months after 9/11, without any interrogation, and per the State Department's request."

This puzzles me, having firsthand knowledge of ongoing intelligence received and processed by the FBI since 1997, which contained specific information implicating certain high level government and elected officials in criminal activities directly and indirectly related to terrorist money laundering, narcotics, and illegal arms sales. It is highly curious that the report omitted all this information, knowing that others in the Congress have been briefed on these issues and have been given the names of targets involved, special agents, translators, field offices, and files. I am highly puzzled and curious.

After the many public hearing shows, in which the Commissioners very skillfully played their good cop/bad cop routine and displayed their lifelong mastery of the political art of saying but not saying, and asking but not asking, all parties and all agencies have readily accepted this report. The president apparently considered the report rosy and appropriately symbolized its presentation in his rose garden. The previous administration sighed with relief, having scored a negative 4, compared to the current administration's negative 6, in the blame game. Notorious Attorney General John Ashcroft left his over-secrecy and classification guns in their holsters. In fact, this report ended up being blessed by all those responsible for our nation's security and interests, which were severely violated on September 11. I, for one, am highly puzzled and curious. How about you?


http://www.antiwar.com/orig/s-edmonds.php?articleid=3151
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stepnw1f Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-24-04 01:46 PM
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1. It's A Whitewash
yet still looks bad for Chimp.
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MetaTrope Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-26-04 11:46 AM
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27. noontime kick
:kick:
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rucky Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-24-04 01:59 PM
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2. Bookmarked...and nominated for DU homepage
I have a feeling this will come in handy some day soon.
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TeacherCreature Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-24-04 02:08 PM
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3. nominated for front page
she makes some great points here.
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Racenut20 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-24-04 02:16 PM
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4. They did not include anything one member may have disagreed with
It was a "unanimous" report, if you can believe that. Probably left out 50% of it.
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yardwork Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-24-04 09:30 PM
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14. Exactly.
And with the number of Republicans with conflicts of interest on the panel, we know that anything that could possibly be suppressed was suppressed.

And even with all that, it still makes shrubco look terrible.
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Zorra Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-24-04 03:47 PM
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5. I'm not puzzled. Bu$h knew. n/t
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wiggs Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-24-04 06:12 PM
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6. kick because
...it should be days before this falls down to page 3 again...

Her hearing regarding the gag order was postponed, but to when? After the elections?

Several congresspersons have heard her information. Why aren't they running shotgun for her and demanding that her hearing be scheduled? If the information she has is that important, why don't congressmen who have the information challenge the questionable retro-active classification and leak it? Why isn't someone from Congress standing up and asking about all the loose ends in the 9/11 report?

Something doesn't add up. Either the classified information isn't worth going to the mat for or, as Sibel says, everyone on both the right and left are together protecting themselves, our government, and its corporate buds from embarrassment.

More and more, I am concluding that elected officials on the left are not the watchdogs of the right that I had thought they were. Officials on the left and on the right are part of the same team, ultimately, staging mock battles and playing the politics game. Honesty, truth, and doing the right thing take back seats to political expediency for all of them. Us against all of them. Sounds like the 60's.
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opihimoimoi Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-24-04 06:30 PM
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7. I am curious as to why they did not contact the Hart Rudman Commission
and ask why their recommendations were rejected/ignored by Cheney and Bush.
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Minstrel Boy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-24-04 06:54 PM
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8. This woman scares everyone who means to hide the truth about 9/11!
Edited on Sat Jul-24-04 07:08 PM by Minstrel Boy


Ashcroft tries to bribe her, then gags her with the rare invocation of "State Secrets Privilege" and retroactively declares her public testimony as classified.

America needs to know this, and hear her, and if they do they would respond with one almighty, earth-shattering "WHAT THE FUCK?!?"

Even without her revelations, which have been stunning, these unsubtle efforts at cover-up alone should be enough to persuade anyone with a good conscience that 9/11 complicity is neither baseless nor paranoiac "tinfoil stuff."
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wiggs Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-24-04 08:57 PM
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12. Why
Plenty of people, journalists, congresspersons, and commissioners have heard about the suppression of this woman and have heard some of the information she's trying to make public. Why aren't THEY getting worked up?? I agree with you that this is what should be happening, but it's not.

60 Minutes recorded an interview and never broadcast it. Senators Grassley and Rockfeller (I think) championed her briefly and dropped it. The entire 9/11 Commssion heard about her case and her story and all but ignored it. Edmonds and the story are not being discounted or discredited...on the contrary the fact that BA is so worried about it gives it weight....it is simply stagnating.

You would think that a hint of unethical coverup and gagging of a citizen would send civil rights advocates and journalists into a feeding frenzy. Why hasn't it? I don't get it....yet.

This time, instead of being passive and allowing a story to just fade away via disinformation, discrediting the messenger, or secrecy I think we ought to start assuming the worst interpretation possible...let a story bubble up to public view that the administration, organized crime, and Pakistan were complicit in 9/11.....maybe something involving James Bath, Cheney, Pakistan, Atta, illicit use of funds from No Child Left Behind, and Prince Bandar. Who knows, it may even turn out to be true. Go on the offensive. Instead of wondering if Bush fulfilled his NG obligation, assume he didn't and let them prove otherwise. Someone outed Plame? Assume it was Cheney until someone else is found. This is what the RW does....Sandy Berger? Snuck out documents in his socks to protect Clinton! Clarke? Disgruntled employee! Clinton bombs terrorists? Must be because of Lewinsky!

No more benefit of the doubt to any of these guys. "These are the most crooked lying bunch of guys I've ever seen." Let's go with that.

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Minstrel Boy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-24-04 09:24 PM
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13. Excellent post!
Edited on Sat Jul-24-04 09:25 PM by Minstrel Boy
Edmonds is not being marginalized by the mainstream media because she's a discredited crank. It's because she's not, and her story is too hot, and would burn too many powerful players. And CBS's shelving and not rescheduling her recent interview is an outrageous disservice to an already woefully uninformed public.

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Wapsie B Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-26-04 12:00 PM
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29. Instead of trying to explain away the Sandy Berger non-story
why aren't Dems stampeding to get Sibel a public forum? Screw asscrack and his state-secrets privilege. Someway somehow she needs to get this to the public. If Dems roll over on this one they're just as complicit in all this as the repugs.
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0007 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-26-04 06:10 AM
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22.  An Interview with Sibel Edmonds - A Must Read
"Sibel Edmonds began working for the FBI shortly after the Sept. 11 attacks, translating top-secret documents pertaining to suspected terrorists. She was fired in the spring of 2002 after reporting her concerns about sabotage, intimidation, corruption and incompetence to superiors. She first gained wide public attention in October of that year when she appeared on 60 Minutes on CBS and charged that the FBI, State Department, and Pentagon had been infiltrated by Turkish individuals suspected of ties to terrorism. On October 18, 2002, at the request of FBI Director Robert Mueller, Attorney General Ashcroft imposed a gag order on Ms. Edmonds, citing possible damage to diplomatic relations or national security. Edmonds is a key witness in a pending class-action suit filed by 9/11 families against the government. The following interview, conducted this past weekend for almost three hours by telephone, reveals sordid new details about U.S. intelligence practices."

More....it is a long read, but good.

http://www.antiwar.com/deliso/?articleid=2917
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midwayer Donating Member (719 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-24-04 07:23 PM
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9. implicating certain high level government and elected officials
"which contained specific information implicating certain high level government and elected officials in criminal activities directly and indirectly related to terrorist money laundering, narcotics, and illegal arms sales. It is highly curious that the report omitted all this information, knowing that others in the Congress have been briefed on these issues and have been given the names of targets involved, special agents, translators, field offices, and files."

Am I wrong or is this the first I've ever heard her specifically state this?
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Minstrel Boy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-24-04 07:34 PM
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10. She's said on several occasions that senior elected officials
would go to jail if 9/11 were properly investigated.

This interview was, I think, the first mention I'd seen her make of something like this:

SE: You get to a point where it gets very complex, where you have money laundering activities, drug related activities, and terrorist support activities converging at certain points and becoming one. In certain points - and they (the intelligence community) are separating those portions from just the terrorist activities. And, as I said, they are citing "foreign relations" which is not the case, because we are not talking about only governmental levels. And I keep underlining semi-legit organizations and following the money. When you do that the picture gets grim. It gets really ugly.

JH: Let me read you a short quote from Dr. Griffin's book, quoting from War and Globalization: The Truth Behind September 11 by Michel Chossudovsky and ask you to comment on it. "...The transfer of money to Atta <$325,000>, in conjunction with the presence of the ISI chief in Washington during the week, is the missing link behind 9/11....The evidence confirms that al-Qaeda is supported by Pakistan's ISI (and it is amply documented that) the ISI owes its existence to the CIA."

SE: I cannot comment on that. But I can tell that once, and if, and when this issue gets to be, under real terms, investigated, you will be seeing certain people that we know from this country standing trial; and they will be prosecuted criminally.
http://baltimorechronicle.com/050704SibelEdmonds.shtml


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ClassWarrior Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-24-04 07:39 PM
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11. kick
:kick:


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midwayer Donating Member (719 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-24-04 09:55 PM
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15. Sibel was on Thom Hartmann yesterday
Thom had a guest host who interviews her

She gives a pretty good update of the staus of her case and the IG? (someone will have to tell me what that is?) report?

It starts at about the 128 mark
Friday archive
http://www.whiterosesociety.org/



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Disturbed Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-24-04 10:09 PM
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16. "Something doesn't add up.
"Something doesn't add up. Either the classified information isn't worth going to the mat for or, as Sibel says, everyone on both the right and left are together protecting themselves, our government, and its corporate buds from embarrassment."

The 911 Commison agreed not to place balme because it would cause an uproar in this election year. It'a White Wash investigation. The truth would be too damaging to both Repubs and Dems and would cause a public uproar and a depressing view of the Govt. The US Govt. on all levels both Repubs and Dems failed Amerika. That is why the whole truth will be buried for many years.
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midwayer Donating Member (719 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-24-04 10:13 PM
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18. This administration is
one great big obstruction of justice
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tinanator Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-26-04 05:56 AM
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21. not possible
Justice died on 12-9-00.
No funeral or nothin.
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Laughing Mirror Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-26-04 06:45 AM
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24. Sibel's story is like the old Henny Youngman joke
"Take my wife -- Please!!"

"Take my story, PLEASE!" Sibel keeps saying.But nobody's hands will reach out for her story because everybody's hands are dirty. To reveal her secret knowledge would completely delegitimize a system that needs legitimacy to stay in place. What Sibel Edmonds knows would bring down the whole international racket, based in Washington, and no racket in control would ever allow for that.

So they concoct some agreed-upon face-saving sanitized fiction and publish it as fact. How many people will bother reading those 565 pages? Will there be a rush on everybody's neighborhood Government Printing Office bookstore, crazed hordes desperate for a copy?

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midwayer Donating Member (719 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-24-04 10:11 PM
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17. Per Sibel
Pressing Senate to release IG? report

Will be filing 1st ammendment lawsuit within next 2 months

Another seperate suit re: gagging Congress and retroactive classification FOIA filed by POGO (project on government oversight)
a watchdog group
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timtom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-25-04 05:00 PM
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19. Kick
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gandalf Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-26-04 04:07 AM
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20. kick
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Disturbed Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-26-04 06:20 AM
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23. "Why aren't THEY getting worked up??
Because the Media Whores have been in bed with the NeoFascists are are getting paid well.
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cthrumatrix Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-26-04 07:10 AM
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25. anytime they ALL agree to implement quickly....it's BS and a cover-up
no critical thinking ...this output was pre-agreed to.
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MetaTrope Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-26-04 07:38 AM
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26. Sibel should move to France and talk to THEIR reporters
:kick:
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cthrumatrix Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-26-04 11:49 AM
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28. you're right...60 minutes dropped her story part II...our liberal media
again at work
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