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jackstraw45 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-25-04 11:27 AM
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REMEMBER THIS WEEK: The July Surprise!!!! Bin Laden to be "caught?"
http://www.commondreams.org/headlines04/0708-11.htm

Published in the July 19, 2004 issue of The New Republic
July Surprise?
by John B. Judis, Spencer Ackerman & Massoud Ansari


Late last month, President Bush lost his greatest advantage in his bid for reelection. A poll conducted by ABC News and The Washington Post discovered that challenger John Kerry was running even with the president on the critical question of whom voters trust to handle the war on terrorism. Largely as a result of the deteriorating occupation of Iraq, Bush lost what was, in April, a seemingly prohibitive 21-point advantage on his signature issue. But, even as the president's poll numbers were sliding, his administration was implementing a plan to insure the public's confidence in his hunt for Al Qaeda.

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according to this ISI official, a White House aide told ul-Haq last spring that "it would be best if the arrest or killing of HVT were announced on twenty-six, twenty-seven, or twenty-eight July"--the first three days of the Democratic National Convention in Boston.
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amber dog democrat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-25-04 11:34 AM
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1. If so, what then ?
I don't think it will matter to the insurgents or Al Queda.
He is not needed as far as the rebellion is concerned.

What happens if the announcement is made and just as many if not more Americans are killed each remaining month ? We are dealing with a decentralized hydra here.
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NewJeffCT Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-25-04 11:45 AM
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4. problem is
That Fox, CNN and the like will trumpet it 24/7 for weeks as a symbol of Bush's manliness & ability as a leader in the War on Terror... so, it won't just be a temporary bump. We'll get every little sign things are going well as a sign we're winning the war.
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amber dog democrat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-25-04 12:04 PM
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5. and drowning elephants will grasp at straws....
But we are not winning this colonial Iraqi war militarily. I would argue the war on terror is also getting sidetracked in the meantime.
Ultimaely it will be the Chimp's undoing.
but yes, NewJeffCT I agree with you.
The propagandists are going to squeak about it. A whole generation is going to need to re learn that we can not believe most of what comes from the state / corporate owned media.

The myth of the Great Leader is going to be re told far and wide. Thank god there is no NKVD to arrest the non believers.

2 legs bad, 4 legs better !
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jackstraw45 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-25-04 01:48 PM
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9. EXACTLY...the point is to eliminate convention coverage
and eclipse John Kerry during his most important week.

It's putting politics above national security and if this article is true, Bush SHOULD be impeached AGAIN for something he won't be held accountable for.
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Bunny Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-25-04 11:37 AM
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2. Something's bound to happen.
Let's keep this kicked for awhile.

:kick:
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devinsgram Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-25-04 12:16 PM
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8. God, I love that picture
Just think how wonderful it will be. I keep this picture in my mind all the time.:hi: :hi: :hi:
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MattNC Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-25-04 11:39 AM
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3. they'd have some balls
to still go ahead with this plan.
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gauguin57 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-25-04 12:08 PM
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6. Osama is in the White House basement on dialysis.
If they want to drag him out this week, they'll do it.

"Ladies and gentlemen of the convention, Mr. Obama!"

"My fellow Americans, Mr. OSAMA! Heh heh heh (Chimpy smirk)!"
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Shopaholic Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-25-04 12:12 PM
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7. Trust me--they'll be some big surprise this week--
probably say--Wednesday or Thursday--something big enough to distract the media away from the Democrats!
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CaTeacher Donating Member (983 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-25-04 02:15 PM
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10. Kick!
:kick:
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HFishbine Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-25-04 02:20 PM
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11. Hate to say this, but
if Osama is "caught" (defrosted, exhumed, whatever), it's over. The mushy muddle who are still undecided at this point will fall to Bush.

Same thing goes if there is another attack on American soil. Then it will be "you don't switch presidents when we are under attack."

Oh, yeah, and if gasoline gets back down to a buck fifty, it goes to Bush too.
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mdmc Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-25-04 02:27 PM
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12. remember, I called 7-28-04 as the day obl is 'caught'
:kick:
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mdmc Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-25-04 02:33 PM
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13. check it out
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jackstraw45 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-26-04 10:48 AM
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14. Kicking - the clock is ticking....
The Bush* criminal empire WILL pull something later this week.

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Sophree Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-26-04 10:54 AM
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15. They're already preparing us for some sort of capture/development.
CNN is really pumping that surveillance technology story. And they've finally started actually saying OBL's name again.
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