Medieval Torture Devices

[jukes]

Item on local (ABC) news last night, a display of crudely forged medieval torture devices. commentary stated that they were used by Hussein on failed olympic athletes as punishment.

this is obvious crap. the devices were clearly all museum pieces. One was an "iron maiden" of indubitable antiquity, & a device designed for the xian inquisition.

obviously meant to distract from the horrendous & barbaric treatment of iraqi civilians by some of our troops.

i fear the public is buying into all this ridiculous propaganda, just as they bought the alleged rape of belgian nuns and head-bashing of belgian babies during both world wars.

i'm afraid, by hook & crook, this election, & therefore our democracy, is lost.

[ChavezSpeakstheTruth]

1. Stiff upper lip Jukie - all is NOT lost

we shall prevail - or they'll have to REALLY pull off an ilegal move to stay in power.

[jukes]

5. ChavezSpeakstheTruth

i haven't given up, & won't while this heart is pumping. but i'm disgusted @ the abuse of religion and despair @ the gullibility of the sated & sanctimonious american public.

[ChavezSpeakstheTruth]

7. You and me both, my friend

The cubilcle monkeys around me stagger the imagination in their sheepitude!

[drdon326]

2. Come on !!

The history of uday is legendary. He was a pretty sick dude.

You can dismiss it out of hand but I believe its probably true.

[jukes]

4. i'm not an apologist for the hussein monsters

i just don't buy this particular tripe. Yes, the hussein regime, as well as idi amin, the bush administration, et al, are notorious torturers & barbarous sociopaths.

my concern is that this contrived display is geared toward inflaming the public against muslims, in order to perpetuate the empirical corporate greedgrab in the name of a "holy" war.

[baldguy]

3. But, Saddam was a brutal dictator.

It shouldn't be surprising that he tortured & killed his subjects arbitrarily.

The United States is SUPPOSED to represent freedom, liberty, democracy, and above all the rule of law. Her soldiers are SUPPOSED to embody these ideals, aren't they? Instead, Rumsferatu has them acting more like Uday & Qusay.

[jukes]

6. exactly!

what have we become?

[bryant69]

8. You know who would like us to give up?

Karl Rove. Dick Cheney. John Ashcroft. Donald Rumsfeld. and President Bush.

I don't plan on giving up myself.

Bryant
Check it out --> http://politicalcomment.blogspot.com

[jukes]

9. will never give up

as they escalate, so shall i.

just feel we need to *really* observe the ocean we swim in. most americans don't give a flying fudge flavored fuck about anything other than their status, & satiation of their appetites.