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Beloved Citizen Donating Member (522 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-26-04 08:09 AM
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CNN-Useless Today-Gallup Poll: Kerry 51% Bush 45% In Ohio
A 3 state "Battleground Poll" with Ohio looking very nice indeed. And the dead heat in Missouri isn't bad either. Florida? At least it's close.

http://www.cnn.com/2004/ALLPOLITICS/07/25/states.poll/index.html
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Blue-Jay Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-26-04 08:12 AM
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1. Ooooo! <rubs hands together>
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osaMABUSh Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-26-04 08:14 AM
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2. CNN lies
I might be nitpicking but Ohio is not within the MOE.

"But because the results are all within each poll's margin of error, the candidates are essentially even."

"In Ohio, with 20 electoral votes, Kerry led Bush by a 6-point margin, 51 percent to 45 percent, in the poll of 639 likely voters.
The survey had a margin of error of plus or minus 5 percentage points."

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59millionmorons Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-26-04 08:17 AM
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4. The problem with Gallup
Is they have these really high MOE.
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59millionmorons Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-26-04 08:16 AM
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3. This new Florida poll has Kerry up 49-44
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LuCifer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-26-04 08:45 AM
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10. Oh no S?!
49 to 44!? Lordy, I may actually be PROUD to be a Floridian now!
Well, stuff IS looking up, now that A) we got Howard Stern back on in my area (plus Tampa AND Orlando!) and B) I got a semi-Air America station down in Miami. Al Franken's show really kicks some ass! And by having Randi on tape, I can get her when she's not on live via JNO (who STILL do a hatchet job on her show...)

Lu Cifer, reminding you that Mel Gibson is a crazy person, hey, I saw that South Park, man, he's nuts!
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louis c Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-26-04 08:17 AM
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5. Bush Must Carry All Three of These States...............
or he's cooked.

I believe Kerry will carry all three, as well as hold on to all Dems. states in 2000.

He'll also add W.V., N.C., N.H, Az.

Work like hell, take nothing for granted, but expect a landslide.
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59millionmorons Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-26-04 08:19 AM
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6. If he takes Ohio
These wont be needed W.V., N.C., N.H, Az.
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louis c Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-26-04 08:32 AM
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8. He needs them for
a landslide.

I don't want to beat Bush, I want to bury him. There must be no need for a re-count.

I will not be satisfied until we're ahead in Texas, beyond the margin of error.
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DemocratSinceBirth Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-26-04 08:35 AM
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9. You Are Right...
We should just need to win the eighteen states Gore won in 00 plus Ohio......

Further if we win Ohio we can afford to lose IA but it's hard to imagine losing a midwestern state that even the Duke won in 88...
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louis c Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-26-04 09:00 AM
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11. I always prefer "Correct" to "Right".......................
the other side perverted and co-opted that word, too.
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Beloved Citizen Donating Member (522 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-26-04 09:27 AM
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12. All it takes is for 1 Bush state to cross over to Kerry
If John Kerry holds all the Gore states, something that is looking very possible, and takes just one of the so-called red states, he wins.

There have been quite a few articles lately talking about Kerry's electoral vote problems. Frankly, I think Bush's problems are far greater.
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KurtNYC Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-26-04 08:25 AM
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7. "likely voter" = CNN weighted the polls
They sometimes use "registered voters" which is a somewhat raw poll. And then, when Kerry is way ahead, they use "likely voters" which lets them skew the poll numbers toward Bush. This seems like interference in a federal election to me.

AP, with even bigger cajones, said "Bush ahead, can Kerry catch up?" (note their play on Heinz, these clever propagandists work on so many levels)
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