Let's be pragmatic RE: Michael Moore at the Democratic Convention. . .

[wndycty]

It was revealed today that Michael Moore is at the convention, not as a guest of the DNC, but as a guest of the Congressional Black Caucus. Some are pissed at the DNC for not inviting Moore, some are pissed that the CBC invited him instead.

Lets be realistic it would have been absolutely stupid for the DNC to invite Moore, do you remember what happened to Wesley Clark when he did not condemn Moore for his comments about Bush's National Guard service (or lack thereof)? The DNC did the right thing.

As for the CBC inviting him it is perfect. He has paid huge respects to them and he is obviously a friend. Moore belongs there but not necessarily in an official capacity (he is not speaking) and the majority of delegates will be thrilled to see him.

As for the CBC possibly embarrassing or harming the DNC by doing this. . .oh please! If the DNC did not want him there he would not be there. Allowing the CBC to invite him is perfect, it lets the DNC off the hook while still giving him access to the convention. How got there is not as important as him being there. This is a win win situation for the DNC, the CBC and Moore

[freetobegay]

1. You are absolutely correct!

:hi:

[trumad]

2. Yah, I remember the Moore and Calrk Awol thing

it forced Dubya to release his Tang records and hurt Bush pretty damn bad.... It was a good thing, not bad.

[wndycty]

3. It was good overall but it did hurt Clark. . .

. . .it should not have, but many people feel that it was one of the reasons Clark did not catch fire. I think it was a non issue, but the press and the pundits wanted to make it an issue and it was. If Moore played a bigger role in the convention the press would not let it die, they would drive it into the ground and it would be a huge distraction from that is important.

[trotsky]

4. Brilliant analysis.

Granted, the Repukes will slam just about anything we do, but why give them additional ammunition? Let them pick on irrelevant stuff to show the electorate how out-of-touch they are.

If the DNC had invited Moore and perhaps even featured him, it would have been all over the right-wing media how the Democrats are "thanking" Moore for making his film. Let F9/11 stand on its own!

[agingdem]

5. Also...

don't forget...Moore supported and voted Green Party in 2000. I don't think the DNC is so quick to forgive and forget but I think at this juncture they are willing to "turn a blind eye" so to speak.

[wndycty]

6. Very true. . .

. . .but the reality is that he is there with the DNC's blessings. . .otherwise he would not have been granted access. You notice they turned down Ralph Nader's appeal to attend.

[Green Mountain Dem]

7. YES..Let's be pragmatic....

Does it make sense to play to the perceived wishes of the 10% undecided, at the risk of possibly losing some support of the base??
The 10% group apparently would prefer a "non-confrontational" message and is supposedly turned off by negativity. IMHO about 75% of the base would like to see the DNC grow some balls and stop bending over everytime they are challenged by the thug cons.

So the DNC appeases the 10% and maybe converts half of them, but in doing so they run the risk of pissing off 10% of their base to the point of losing their support.

Do the math!

[wndycty]

8. What is going to make the difference in a close election. . .

. . .the base or the 10%. If the base abandons the DNC at the this point because they "would like to see the DNC grow some balls" then I wonder if they really are the base. Preaching to the choir is not necessary at this point.

[bpilgrim]

9. i am certainly glad he is there

but i doubt the reTHUGs will pick up on the nuances that you pointed out.

that we have to hide our shinning stars is just another sign of how far off track this country is, imho.

but whatever... i'm just glad he's there and that women and people of color still have GUTS.

peace

[wndycty]

10. Well the DNC has some guts too. . .

. . .he would not have been allowed on the floor if it didn't. This was approved by the DNC, you can be mad at them all you want and diss them, but the truth is no one gets on the floor that the DNC does not want there.

[bpilgrim]

12. 12-12-00

not my idea of GUTS and certainly not hiding our most prominate liberal voices but hey, to each it's own.

like i said i am glad hes there but things need a CHANGING :bounce:

peace

[Tierra_y_Libertad]

11. Good! I hope Moore tells the press what he thinks of the DNC.

Preferably, during a speech by one of "keep it positive" pablumites.

[EndElectoral]

13. Bull!! Moore should speak! He's done more for Kerry than anyone with F911

[CaTeacher]

14. as long as he is there--that is good.

But it makes me angry that Kerry will try to dstance himself from this great man. I would respect him more if he would show solidarity with Michael Moore--after all--millions of people have seen his movie and will be voting for Kerry because of it.