Women shouldn't vote

[RedEarth]

Women should let men vote and they should stay home, raise families and tend to domestic duties.

This my friends is a FEMALE state senator from Kansas....I just heard this on the radio and googled and came up with this article...





Senator: Women should not vote

Bristol Herald Courier 9/29/01

The Associated Press

TOPEKA, Kan. — A female state senator says if women's suffrage were being voted on today she would not support it, because the 19th Amendment was the start of a decades-long erosion of family values.

“I'm an old-fashioned woman, Senator. Kay O’Connor told The Kansas City Star. “Men should take care of women, and if men were taking care of women (today) ‘we wouldn't have to vote.”

Delores Ftlrtado, co-president of the Johnson County League of Women Voters, had asked the 59 year-old Republican to the league’s “Celebrate the Right to Vote” luncheon, and O’Connor responded: “You probably wouldn't want me there because of what I would have to say.”

Furtado said she was shocked by O’Connor’s view. As a state senator, Furtado said, “she is the beneficiary of a system she doesn't support.”

O’Connor said she does vote. But she said she believes that if men had been protecting the best interests of women, then women would not be forced to cast ballots and serve in the Legislature. Instead, they could stay home, raise families and tend to domestic duties, she said.

more......

http://www.sullivan-county.com/news/mine/women_vote.htm

[redqueen]

1. Another one to pass around

Ensure all your Republican-voting friends see this.

:crazy:

[Myrina]

2. Beyond comment ....

Oh.
My.
Goddess.

I hope the voters of Kansas send her back home to take care of her family, post haste. :mad:

[RedEarth]

6. That was my thought as well...."beyond comment"

[supernova]

3. Oh Boo Hoo!

Nobody forced her to campaign to be a State Senator. I'm sure she was kicking and screaming all the way. :eyes:

The false modesty from Repug women is just revolting. :puke:

[nickinSTL]

4. insane

Uh, Senator...no one FORCES women to vote.

If you want to stay home and raise your children, and not exercise your right to vote, or serve in your state legislature, feel free.

[eyesroll]

5. Women aren't forced to vote...

In fact, I can think of one who should be staying at home and tending to domestic duties (though I hope her daughter has some other political influences in her life).

[rene moon]

7. This woman is stupid

and sets things back 100 years! She's a major hypocrite, if I ever saw one!

[SoFlaJet]

8. did you see Da Ali G Show?

last night on HBO?he is frickin nuts he played a Kajisikanian who wants to work for the GOP-he went door to door w/the candidate and was talking to Joe-shmoes in Mississippi and acted shocked that women were allowed to vote in this country.he said in my country first is men then dogs then bugs THEN women funny

[whistle]

9. Hey, let the neo-cons talk, their own words reveal who they are....

...what they believe and what values they carry. I'm just waiting for one or more of them to declare that slavery should never have been abolished because that act was also the root of all of our problems today.

[Catfight]

10. Then she should concede her position of a women in a man's role

and go home, get f'n pregnant and shut the hell up. How is an old fashion women working in a newly fashioned progressive role? Maybe she should give all those "women votes," she gladly took to get her position BACK to the running mate. What a hypocritical dumbass! I'm becoming more and more convinced that Republicans are really genetically deficient in some way. Senator dumbass is what she is.

[Terran]

11. What a fool.

...she said she believes that if men had been protecting the best interests of women, then women would not be forced to cast ballots and serve in the Legislature. Instead, they could stay home, raise families and tend to domestic duties, she said.

Men as a group have NEVER protected the best interests of women.

[Book Lover]

12. The hypocrisy of these people leaves my jaw agape

I really don't know what else to say. If you really believe this, then you should resign your seat immediately. But I think it's pretty clear that she does not truly believe this; otherwise she would be living the lifestyle she espouses.

[Pathwalker]

13. Ann Coulter, Lynne Cheney, Kate O'beirne, and many other

Repuke women agree with her, and have regularly said so on TV. The goal is to have only white, male landowners be allowed to vote. It was also part of Babs Olsen's screech, too.

[in_cog_ni_to]

14. OK, I have no kind words to say

about this fucking wench....I WILL say IT'S A DAMN GOOD THING THAT WE WOMEN ARE THE BACKBONE OF THE DEMOCRATIC PARTY AND WE VOTE!

I would be all for the republicans not letting their Stepford Wives vote. Fine by me! Go for it!

[arbusto_baboso]

15. Since conservative policies have made 2-income families NECESSARY

you'd think this dumbshit would just shut up already!

Many women I know would like to have the choice of staying home with their children. But they also don't want "The Handmaid's Tale" forced upon them either.

Unfortunately, with Bushco ravaging our economy, most women HAVE to work, but have decreasing opportunities to do so in any profitable way.

[k in IA]

16. I didn't know Kate O'Connor wasn't know of here at DU. I lived in Overland

Park in 2001 so we heard a lot about it. Since Fred Phelps is widely known here (another KS nut case), I figured Kate was also.

The real fight in KS is between the moderates and the RW "Christian" repugs so that is why some Dem's manage to sneak into office, i.e., a Dem Governor and Dennis Moore as a U.S. Rep.

[AntiCoup2K4]

19. Maybe if Kate had a website called "www.godhateswomanvoters.com"...

...she would be as famous around here as "Pastor" Fred.

[KamaAina]

24. She got to No. 4 on Top Ten Conservative Idiots

http://www.democraticunderground.com/top10/01/top10_2001_38.html

She's an "old-fashioned woman" - damn straight! Yes, Kansas state senator Kay O'Connor recently took the unusual step of declaring the 19th Amendment to be a load of hogwash when she was asked to appear at the Johnson County League of Women Voters' "Celebrate the Right to Vote" luncheon. She declined, telling organizer Delores Furtado that "You probably wouldn't want me there because of what I would have to say." Well at least she's as honest as she is bonkers. According to O'Connor, "Men should take care of women, and if men were taking care of women (today) we wouldn't have to vote." Apparently O'Connor doesn't care much what her constituents think of this view. "If I don't get re-elected, my only punishment is to go home to my husband and my roses and my children and my grandchildren." How nice.

I guess we just tried our best to block her out, hoping she'd be consigned to the ash heap of history...

[jgardner]

17. Who watches her kids,

cooks her husband's meals and irons her husband's shirts while she's in the Senate?

[bobbieinok]

18. when Reagan won in 80, a lot of people started saying women shouldn't

vote.......there was a lot of this on talkradio in IA (where there was real talk radio, lots of different views, etc)

civilization collapsed when women got the right to vote....is what many said

in 2000 Ann Coulter said women shouldn't have the right to vote because the only thing women understand about economics is how to spend money in the mall

Phyllis Shafley says women should stay at home and care for the family.....as does Laura Schlesinger............of course, they exempt themselves as 'obviously superior women'

[skygazer]

20. Simply stunning

I'm always amazed when people who are directly benefitting from something see fit to attack it. Ann Coulter comes to mind - if it wasn't for the "liberals" she shrieks about, she would not be allowed to hold the job she does.

I wonder who is holding a gun to this poor woman's head and forcing her to serve as a state senator.

[newyawker99]

34. Hi skygazer!!

Welcome to DU!! :toast:

[TeacherCreature]

21. I hope the women of Kansas have the sense to send her guilty butt home

Does anyone know if she is running again?

[RedEarth]

29. Not sure if she is running again...but she currently is in office....nt

[Cleita]

22. Erosion of family values?

What kind of family values are you teaching your children when you marginalize half the population into a semi-slave dependency on the other half because of their gender. I think that woman would be happier living in Saudi Arabia.

[democratreformed]

23. Wonder what happened to her man?

Wonder why she is being forced to serve in the Legislature? Does she not have a man? Or, is her man just a sorry one (according to her)?

[supernova]

26. Yes, I wonder why she can't keep a man

she must not be any great prize herself. :eyes:

[RedEarth]

28. Here is her bio...it appears she is married

Kay O’Connor’s Biography

Kay was born in Everett, Washington, in 1941 and raised on a 160 acre homestead north of Fairbanks, Alaska. She was married to Art in 1959 and they have 6 children, 13 grandchildren, and 3 great grandchildren.
Kay graduated from Lathrop High School in Fairbanks, Alaska, in 1959. She has been a homemaker and mother, as well as an employee in various offices and in management positions. For more than six years prior to being elected to the legislature, she was the office manager and full charge accountant for a nationwide general contracting and construction company.

First elected to the Kansas House of Representatives 1992, Kay has served on Government Organization & Elections, Health & Welfare, Education, and Appropriations committees in the House and on the Joint Legislative Educational Planning Committee. She was a 1991 participant in the Fundamentals of Catholicism seminar at Notre Dame University and completed the Kansas University Economics Institute for Kansas Leaders at the Robert J. Dole Institute for Public Service and Public Policy in 1999.

Senator O’Connor was the 2001 recipient of the Kansas Republican Assembly’s Courageous Conservative Award. She is currently serving on Senate committees as Vice Chair of Elections and Local Government, member of Judicial, Federal and State Affairs, and Joint Committee on Corrections and Juvenile Justice.

In her hometown of Olathe, Kay is musical director of St. Philippine Duchdsne Choir at Blessed Sacrament Parish which hosts the "Kansas City Latin Mass Community." She serves as Executive Director of Parents In Control (PIC), a national non-profit organization promoting parental control of educational decisions for children, and is also an Advisory Board member of Sojourner Truth, an alternative school for Kansas City students who have been expelled from the public schools. In her spare time, the senator is currently writing a book titled, "School Choice for Dummies," and hopes to have it ready for publication soon.

http://skyways.lib.ks.us/senategop/profiles/kayobio.html

[democratreformed]

31. OMG. I wonder if he feels insulted

and like less of a man.

[RedEarth]

35. lol...sounds like a sorry guy...

she has to go to work and even worse....solicit votes from both sexes....

[happyslug]

25. GOP Screwy history

The best argument for women not have the right to vote is one of war. Basically the people who will fight the war should be the one who vote for it. This was the main justification for the first Democratic Movement in American History, the post-Revolutionary Democratic Movement (Which lead to Jefferson's Election in 1800). This argument replaced the older theory that voting should be restricted to owners of property. Now, Jacksonian Democracy down play this military justification for voting and no one really cited it after about 1820 (When the Militia started to die in the US), but it was only with the effective death of the Militia (About 1850)

Now, both theories also depended on PUBLIC VOTING. The "Secret Ballot" did not occur in the US till after the Civil War. Thus when you voted everyone KNEW who you voted for. Thus you could not claim to support candidate X and than vote for Y, for everyone would know you voted for Y not X. Thus even under the above two theories of voting Woman had input (By telling their husbands/fathers/sons/ boyfriends etc) on how to vote. In was in the 1860 Election when the first recording of the following joke:

Newlywed Husband takes his bride to their new home, at that point he tells her he is a Republican, she than locks him out of the house saying she is NEVER going to sleep with a Republican. The next day he knocks on the door and she stills says no. On the third day he knocks again and says "I am a very anxious Democrat"...

Women always had a say in how men voted, it was indirect but effective. It is only with the adoption of the Secret ballot that such say become meaningless. With the Secret Ballot a Husband could tell his wife he voted for X and than vote for Y and there was no way for her to find out how he really voted for.

Thus it was the adoption of the Secret ballot that lead to Woman getting the vote. Even men realized that the restriction made no sense in the days of the Secret Ballot. It took about 40 years (The Secret Ballot tended to be adopted in the 1880s and Woman received the vote in 1920) but Woman had to be given the vote to have a say in society just like they did before the secret ballot.

Thus if you want to take voting from women you also have to take away the Secret Ballot. Someone should ask her if she supports no secret ballot (Than maybe she is a good Republican and hates the secret ballot so she can put more presurre on people to vote GOP).

27. But SHE votes anyway!

According to Thomas Frank in "What's Wrong with Kansas?"
He writes about her extensively.

[noiretextatique]

30. typical conservative idiot and hypocrite

:eyes: i'm so old-fashioned i don't believe i should be doing what i'm doing, but i'm going to do it anyway...but other women shouldn't do it.

[SemperEadem]

32. Well, Queen Victoria felt that the Suffragettes should've been whipped...

then, if O'Connor was any kind of a woman who stood in the middle of her truth and convictions, she would renounce her seat and go home and psychotic voter base.

She should step down from her office.

I certainly hope whoever runs against her uses this over and over again... I'd say that Repug women should not go to the polls and vote--they should stay home and let their promise keeper husbands do the voting. Meanwhile, all of us female Democrats will exercise our freedom to vote her and her ilk out of political office.

[SemperEadem]

33. hey, pouffiasse!!!!

"And if the trips to Topeka get to be too much and my husband asks me to quit, I would."

Hey, I"m asking the salope to quit being a doubleminded bullshit artist, get out of the way of progress and go home and screw her husband. Pute!!!