New South Park movie may be right wing attack just before election?

[Democat]

They are rushing to get this movie out before the election. Here is a quote from a tour of the set:

Team America: World Police

Then there’s the film’s main bad guy, Kim Jong Il, the “power-mad dictator” who may be selling Weapons of Mass Destruction to terrorists.

The most remarkable head sculpts belong to the other bad guys in the film. “Actually,” said Trey, “they’re not bad. They’re just really really stupid and misguided.” They’re an organization of Hollywood liberals who are determined to stop Team America from interfering in the affairs of international politics. Alec Baldwin, Susan Sarandon, Sean Penn, and a permanently mustard-stained Michael Moore are just a few of the celebrities who are going to feel well and truly roasted when they see this film. Even seeing the heads without the film’s puppeteers bringing them to life, they are frighteningly accurate and bitingly funny.

http://www.aintitcool.com/display.cgi?id=17970

http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0372588/

The South Park guys are known to lean to the right, but they claim to be "libertarian" so there is some hope that they may go after Bush too. So far, all of the reports I have read have only talked about bashing "liberals" and "terrorists", nothing about even questioning right wing leaders or policies.

It will be interesting to see if this movie is fair and balanced or if it is a Bush campaign ad.

[PROGRESSIVE1]

1. I wouldn't mind seeing Mr. Parker and Mr. Stone....

put in GITMO!

:grr:

[K-W]

2. It probably wont make a differentce in the election.

It will skewer everything it touches, it will be anti-liberal elite, but also anti-establishment.

It is unfortunate that these guys have such stupid views of liberalism, considering how talented they are, but I dont worry about this.

[Democat]

4. The true irony is that these two guys are celebs who speak about politics!

Think about it. They are celebs who talk about politics bashing celebs for talking about politics.

[K-W]

7. yep, they represent an odd political group

they are obviously liberals. But the nature of society has stigmatized being liberal. They are more interested in being hip and independent than any particular ethos though.

At this point libertarianism is the hip detached choice. Thus you see a lot of young libertarians, and they get sucked into conservatism through that.

[formernaderite]

20. My wife a Libertarian got me into South Park....

....it's a hysterical show and totally un-PC....don't know if anyone gets sucked into conservatism by watching it. They go after everyone who seem too self-righteous, LEFT or RIGHT.

[seemslikeadream]

40. odd political group

:hi:

[oasis]

3. Libertarians will protect their precious tax cuts.

[Beware the Beast Man]

5. "South Park" is a dying horse that should have been shot

Years ago. Now another movie???

[K-W]

8. Its not going anywhere, its some of the best writing in America right now.

Sorry, but South Park is here to stay.

[LiberalTechie1337]

6. Honest question

Do the wingnuts consider South Park a credible source? I knew they were desperate, but this is ridiculous

[K-W]

9. Not at all, it is vulgar and offensive to them.

And it takes shots at all sides, it just takes a few more at the left.

I think they have been quoted as saying they hate conservatives, but they really hate liberals. They arent partisan, they are just reactionary and detached.

[CaTeacher]

10. I don't think RWers like

South Park--bad language--things said about religion--etc.

All the people I know who like it are on the liberal side.

[Mike Daniels]

24. The FReeps seem to like it enough -

Do a search on South Park and you'll get a good number of threads listed with most of them complimenting the show. For the most part, they are pretty favorable to the Simpsons as well.

It seems as long as the show skewers both sides of the spectrum they don't have any major issues with it.

[rumguy]

11. Matt Stone was IN Bowling for Columbine!

And I've never seen them as a right leaning show - they love to crucify the religious right as well...

Their hero who comes in to fight the Streisand-mech is not Ted Nugent but Robert Smith of The Cure....

[pocket]

33. so was Charlton Heston

that doesn't make him a liberal.

[porphyrian]

12. Everyone Calm Down

Only uptight people should get offended by anything South Park puts on. What is all this shit about them being right-leaning? They just aren't afraid to call stupid "stupid."

[Killarney]

13. Interesting that they make fun of those celebrities in the film

but not Bruce Willis, Dennis Miller, Kelsey Grammer, Ted Nugent,
Tom Selleck and all the wingnut celebs.

How is it that people like Bruce Willis aren't the "Hollywood elite"? Hmm. Could it be... hypocrasy? Only the liberal celebrities are part of the Hollywood elite to these hypocritical assholes.

I'm very disappointed in Parker & Stone. I've always thought they were really smart. I'm disappointed that they are buying into the neocon foreign policy agenda.

[PROGRESSIVE1]

16. When I see this double standard I believe that...

it's time that we start a BLACKBALLING effort against Right Wingers who speak out!!!

[redqueen]

47. So they only mock left-wing celebrities?

I don't watch it enough to know... but I know they did mock Streisand.

Hmmmm....

[seemslikeadream]

49. redqueen

They're equal opprotunity


and amusing too!

[thebigidea]

14. if only it had stupid stereotype songs!

"saw some of the other sets as well. Various sections of Kim Jong Il’s palace were still standing, but I didn’t get to see his bedroom where he evidently belts out his melancholy musical number, “I’m Ronery.”"

Hallelujah! It does!

See, "I'm Ronery" - isn't that HILARIOUS! That's what happens when a certain kind of furriner tries to say "I'm Lonely" - HA HA AH HA AH HA. Ha. Ha.

I used to like South Park, but the whole thing got pretty stale. I can't stand the sound of their voices these days, which probably grate even them. I'm sure they sometimes have horrible nightmares of still doing Cartman's voice at age 66 at conventions.

Doing a THUNDERBIRDS thing sounds fun, but surely there are better targets for satire these days than Susan Sarandon and Michael Moore.

Like, o, I dunno... who was that guy in power? I forget.

[_Wayne_]

15. Matt and Trey are genius comedians, but ignorant on politics

They're a product of their high school, which, if anyone bases their world view on what they learned in high school, you're bound to have some misguided opinions on social and political matters. Many of the episodes have tremendously exaggerated portrayals of traditional liberal positions, showing their rampant ignorance on important cultural/social issues (environment, smoking, corporations, taxes).

Regardless, I love South Park so much, I'd see the movie no matter what.

[K-W]

18. it is a good window into how the detached youth think

good point about thier high school

[mitchum]

38. "They're a product of their high school"...but aren't they now in their...

thirties? What kind of arrested little shits are they?
Never found them funny.

[Minstrel Boy]

17. Good satirists can make everyone uncomfortable,

at one time or another.

I've seen them skewer the right many times. Do you remember their take on the Bush doctrine in the "let's bomb heaven?" episode?

Thin skins are well advised to avoid South Park.

[seemslikeadream]

22. Good satirists can make everyone uncomfortable

could not have said it better, so I won't try Minstrel-san

The Echo

[leftistagitator]

31. Yes, and if you remember at the end of the episode

we learn that Saddam was building WMDs in heaven. I actually just wrote a partial list of the times that Stone and Parker have carried the Rights message
Right Wing Stances in South Park
1)Anti-sexual harassment laws–Sexual Harassment Panda
2)Anti-hate crimes legislation – Cartmans Silly Little Hate Crime
3)Anti-environmentalism – rainforest Schmainforest
4)Anti-global warming – Terrance & Garfunkel
5)Anti-stem cell therapy – Krazy Kripples
6)Marijuana criminalization is fault of left – Future self and me
7)Anti-boycott of scouts for gay discrimination –
8)Compared Iraq War to American Revolutionary War – I’m a Little Bit Country
9)Giant Corporations are good – Underpants Gnomes
10) Anti-preservation of endangered species – Jakavosours
11) Pro-tobacco company -
Sorry if I can't remember the names of a few of the episodes, but the idea that they are an equal opportunity satirists is laughable at best. They are conservative humorists who very rarely say anything negative about the Republican Party. They are funny, which is why what they do is so terrible as they are purposely misinforming the youth of America and perparing them for Republican indoctrination.

[Minstrel Boy]

42. Satirists can appear to take a particular side of argument

even as they destroy it by rendering it ridiculous.

If you really think "underwear gnomes" carry the message that "Giant Corporations are good" then you just don't get it.

Trust me on this one. I'm a professional satirist.

[leftistagitator]

45. I don't know...

They poked a lot of fun at the underpants gnomes, and made Harbucks appear completely sleazy, but at the end during the sober "This is the message" part of the show they make a number of claims which I don't think were ever meant to be satire. First they said the giant corp(Harbucks) makes a better product than it's small business competitor. They then said that since Big Business is just a successful small business, we shouldn't begrudge them their unchecked market power. They also said that Big Business provided all of the things we enjoy in this country, so we should be thankful to them. If you think any of that was satirical, I'd like to hear how because to my untrained ears it seemed like it came from the GOP platform.

[EV1Ltimm]

19. Anyone else get the feeling...

that maybe they're going to portray Team America in a certain light as to reflect the idiocy of the right-wing's whack-a-mole approach to terrorism and over the top hatred of liberal hollywood?

you also have to keep in mind this is the same source that said venom is going to appear at the end of spiderman 2.

[DrZhivago]

21. I think its brilliant on their part

Its definitely reverse psychology yet if there is one thing I can say is that they are an equal opportunity offensive show and I would love if more conservatives (especially fundies) start watching the show.

[Codeblue]

37. Venom did appear

He just wasnt Venom yet.

[K-W]

23. The real issue isnt the movie, it is the spin.

Repubs will try to spin it so that this is a conservative movie, then when it does well at the box office, they will say "take that F911"

[POed_Ex_Repub]

62. Nobody is going to want to attach their names to this movie

It's not something anyone is going to take seriously.

[durutti]

25. They are *not* Libertarians.

Libertarians support (for example) separation of church and state. They apparently do not.

[K-W]

26. Where did you hear that?

Regardless, they arent thinkers, they are reactionaries and satirists.

[Killarney]

43. why don't you think they support the sep of c&s?

they seem to always make fun of religion on the show. always made me think they were agnostic/atheist.

[theboss]

44. That makes no sense

Where did you ever get the idea that show is in favor of religion running the state?

[durutti]

56. Christmas concert episode.

n/t

[theboss]

59. Where the kids had to dance to Philip Glass instead of singing carols?

That was hysterical.

[rinsd]

27. You're kidding right?

Geez...usually they're equal opportunity offenders but I would hardly call for them to be fair. They should do as they wish and it will either be funny or not.

[blindpig]

28. they can be funny as hell

but when they trashed rainforest conservation I stopped watching. Fuck em.
Guess I'm thin skinned, but that's sacred ground for me.

[lectrobyte]

29. South Park seems like an equal-opportunity offender, I'll be looking

forward to it -- loved the skewering of Mel Gibson and the Passion they did. If you can't laugh at South Park, you are way too uptight, no matter which way you lean politically.

[redqueen]

30. Not sure

Sounds like it, though.

[NoPasaran]

32. If the wingnuts want to make an icon of Eric Cartman

I say Bring. It. On.

[theboss]

34. Their first movie is still the funniest film of the last five or six years

I am sure this one will be just vile, offensive, and hopefully flat out funny.

[DrWeird]

35. Odd that they'd appear in Bowling for Columbine...

and then complain about MM.

[Lorien]

39. And produced that "history of America"

for the same film!

[thebigidea]

46. are you sure? I heard they had nothing to do with it.

[pocket]

48. no, they had nothing to do with it

check the credits. Moore just borrowed their style, sort of.

[mitchum]

36. Parker and Stone are smug little shits who practice satire for idiots

Oh, they can't draw either

[seemslikeadream]

41. smug little shits

yea that's what they are

[jpgray]

50. So long as it's funny, I'll go see it (nt)

[stickdog]

51. The only people who think these guys are Bush lovers are people

who are too stupid to get the joke.

Liberal Hollywood stars simply make an attractive (and easy) countertarget for their scattershot satirical mayhem, IMHO.

[Killarney]

54. they HATE liberals

they said it.

[dave29]

52. So, we will have a thought provoking Documentary

made on the cheap and from the heart - and they will have a... cartoon.

Sounds about right.

[pstokely]

53. in a chat Trey & Matt said they hate both, but hate liberals more

nt

[Jade Fox]

55. Mean-spirited and surprisingly unfunny....

is what I thought about their last movie. I expected to like it, as many
people I know and respect did, but I didn't watch more than half.

Were they going for some kind of record for jokes about anal sex?
Get a room, guys!

[daleo]

57. The problem I have with their satire is lack of focus

They can be quite funny, but I get the message as "conservatives are religious nuts", "liberals are politically correct wet blankets" - the "in general, all politics or civic engagement is equally ridiculous" meme. And the trouble with that, is that it supports the status quo by default. But, financially, they do alright by the status quo, so maybe that is not a surprise.

[Jaybird]

58. these two

are the same guys i saw interviewed a while back and they were bragging about going to parties in hollywood and backing there asses up against celebrities in the crowded room and farting on them.....i would definitly say they are shrubs kinda people.

[mandelion]

60. Did anyone see their show, "that's my bush"?

It skewered the shrub on a weekly basis. It was hilarious.

Basically, they make fun of anyone and everyone who is in the media. They love to give the typical celebs hell and they are not the RWers type of people.

[bvar22]

61. Cartman hates hippies!!!

I didn't take it personally.:hippie:

I watch South Park. I laugh. It's a CARTOON!