Wait a min, the Pubs are distracting with"What did Clinton do for 8

[opihimoimoi]

years re terrorism?"

Hey, what about Bushes 8 months prior to 9/11. Just what did he do??and let us be reminded, Bush had oodles of warnings, a Hart/Rudman Commission Report outlining steps to take in reducing the very threat/9/11 incident.

What the Hell did Bush do when he had the opportunity? Nothing. "Watch my drive" is all he said.

[oasis]

1. We're not letting them get away with Clinton and Chimpy share equal blame.

Chimpy preaches imminent danger from Iraq but he ignored the Hart/Rudman report, the president's daily briefing and Richard Clarke.

Bush ignored the real danger right up under his nose.

[opihimoimoi]

5. The sno job continues.....I tell ya, there has to be a whole team

of them pubs thinking of how to steer the news/direction/flow away from the REAL issues/questions.

Bush said Cheney would do the terror thingy back in Feb 2001 instead of following the H/R Commission. You just know somethings afoot when nothing happens until 9/11 and nothing is said of Bush/Cheney dropping the Ball.

Instead we got "We gonna getum".............. 2 years later.."Osama who?"

[DieboldMustDie]

2. Uh! Clinton isn't running this year...

so why are they campaigning against him. For what it's worth, his administration seems to have foiled quite a few terrorist plots in their 8 years. Randi Rhodes can go on about this at considerable length. :grr:

[opihimoimoi]

6. I suppose its diversion/distraction/diffusion all in one.

They are trying to share the blame with Clinton....meaning they are creating the :: YOU CANNOT ATTACK BUSH OF 9/11 W/O ATTACKING CLINTON TOO. :: These guys are SO desperate and SO Lame.....

They trying to draw attention away from the question:: What the Hell did Bush do in those 8 months? Was he on Vacation or somethin?

[AndyTiedye]

3. We Had a System in Place to Prevent that Sort of Thing

Wayward aircraft got intercepted by fighter jets within a few minutes of
deviating from their flight plan. This was standard procedure until
the current regime changed it, which they did during the summer of 2001.
Rumsfeld had to approve before any fighter planes scrambled under the
new procedure. To make matters worse, there weren't so many planes.
Ashcroft also reassigned most of those fighter jets to pursue marijuana smugglers. Still, Ashcroft was not completely unresponsive to the risk
of terrorism by aircraft -- starting that same summer he refused to fly
on commercial aircaft, from then on using government jets exclusively
for all his travel, including vacations, due to a "threat assessment"
on which he would not elaborate.
http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2001/07/26/national/main303601.shtml

Of course we have been attacked by terrorists before, and they had
hit some of our more remote embassies, and blown up a parking garage.*
An attempt to hit the New Years 2000 celebrations was foiled.


To this day it is hard for me to believe that the bunch that couldn't
even smuggle something across the US/Canadian border, and was so
stupid as to try to collect the rental deposit on their truck (bomb)
after blowing up the parking garage at the World Trade Center
could have actually pulled off 9/11 without a lot of help from inside
our government.

[opihimoimoi]

7. Its almost depressing the way the thing unfolded. The Bush Team

dropped the ball in so many ways....all hidden away and not mentioned.

Why are the media propping up the Bush Co? Intimidation/Money/ pressure/etc???

America has allowed a small infection on her body grow into a Cancer. We did not address the early signs of this Conservative Movement take over by the Neo Cons and Fundies...we now paying a horrible price...

[Maine-i-acs]

4. 2 AQ mass-casualty attacks were thwarted during Clinton's term!

Bojinka and Millennium. Freeper asswipes, do your homework.

That's WTF Clinton was doing. Stopped 2 attacks in 8 years.

And made a special point of warning the incoming Bush administration that AQ would be a major focus of their term - A WARNING THAT BUSH BLEW OFF.

Clinton bombed the AQ training camps and a Sudanese chemical weapons plant while the Repukes complained about it.

Sure the Cole attack happened on his watch ... but do hey really want to compare terrorism casualties for each President?

[opihimoimoi]

8. It was under Big Dawgs watch the Hart/Rudman Commission was

formed...to address the aspect of terrorism in America. Took 2 1/2 years to finish....it was IGNORED by Bush/Cheney in Feb of 2001.... might as well throw the report in the rubbish can.

The Pubs who voted for this fool got scammed.

[jmowreader]

11. He also policed up the WTC bombers...

but that's been discussed already.

Y'know, I'm getting really sick of hearing about the Cole. Yes, it was attacked on Clinton's watch, but WHERE THE HELL WAS THE CAPTAIN? WHERE THE HELL WAS THE CREW OF THAT SHIP? If these FUCKING IDIOTS would have put out proper security while that ship was in one of the most unfriendly ports the United States uses, the Cole wouldn't have happened. Six sailors in two rowboats with an M-16 apiece could have prevented the Cole attack, and THEY WEREN'T THERE. So give the Cole a rest, freepers. The Cole got attacked because the people on the Cole let it get attacked.

[leesa]

9. Apparently, a lot. Which is why we weren't attacked

[opihimoimoi]

10. But but but, the Bush Team discontinued thepolicy of having fighters

available to shoot stray aircraft if they do not land/appear to be hi jacked/ etc.

This was discontinued in the SUMMER of 2001......perfect timing....hmmmm

[ProfessorPlum]

13. I would really like a link to that story again, if you have one

thanks

[opihimoimoi]

16. Its in post #3 by andytiedie in this thread.... I was just repeating his

story

[Tactical Progressive]

12. Clinton kept us safe for 8 years.

Is the short answer to that question.

[nyhuskyfan]

15. It was Clinton's fault...

After all, how could he not have noticed that a terrorist organization was stockpiling 19 boxcutters?

Bush and staff were warned about the Al Qaeda threat when he entered office. The system was flashing red all summer. The PDB came on August 6. Bush never, not once, discussed the possibility of an Al Qaeda threat between August 6 and September 11 while staying on the longest presidential vacation in 32 years (9/11 Commission Report, p. 260-262).
If Clinton had done that in the face of danger to the United States, the Repugs and their media would have absolutely massacred him.

Clinton, meanwhile, risked warnings to his own personal safety to visit Pakistan in March of 2000 to engage in diplomacy with Musharraf to try to get Bin Laden. You don't need any more information than that.

[opihimoimoi]

18. The Pubs always use distraction to cover their malfeasence

[opihimoimoi]

17. and we would still be OK if the Turd followed the recommendations

of Hart/Rudman Commission.

He was too friggen lazy and myopic.

[Joanne98]

14. Clinton didn't get any real intell on Al Quaida until the late 90's

And then he was BUSY GETTING IMPEACHED for having sex by lunatic puritan christians and frauds like Newt. When he bombed Saddam he got accused of "Wag the Dog" (Monica) by the Republicans. Ms. Allbright says she was accused of "being obsessed" with Bin Laden. Besides the "librul" media wouldn't talk about anything but SEX for an entire year. That even went into the Bush administration with the Gary Condit sex scandal. It's not Clinton's fault. It's the sex obessed GOP and media's fault. Aren't the Rethugs supposed to be talking about GAY SEX right now? They should go back to dwelling on other people sex lives. That's the only thing they're good for any more. Message to freepers.
IF YOU CAN'T TALK ABOUT SEX THEN SHUT UP!!!!!!!!

[opihimoimoi]

19. Its obvious sex is very important to the Pubs.. it is to all of us...

but to use it as a political tool is going over the TOP.

Either they are Pervies, or are EVIL in their intent....I can't say which is worse....

[Joanne98]

20. If you listen to them on Yahoo chats rooms

Sex is ALL they talk about. Especially gay sex. I can't understand it. There is something really wrong with these people. It's not normal to talk about sex all the time. I'm beginning to think they're all gay. haha

[opihimoimoi]

23. Closet pervies....obssessed with the emotion button for gratification

[never cry wolf]

21. Here's what hid did for 8 years

HOW MANY TERRORIST ATTACKS CLINTON STOPPED.

Just for the record, under Richard Clarke's leadership as Czar of Counterterrorism:

CLINTON Developed the nation's first anti-terrorism policy, and appointed first national coordinator of anti-terrorist efforts.

CLINTON Stopped cold the Al Qaeda millennium hijacking and bombing plots.

CLINTON Stopped cold the planned attack to kill the Pope

CLINTON Stopped cold the planned attack to blow up 12 U.S. jetliners simultaneously

CLINTON Stopped cold the planned attack to blow up UN Headquarters

CLINTON Stopped cold the planned attack to blow up FBI Headquarters

CLINTON Stopped cold the planned attack to blow up the Israeli Embassy in Washington

CLINTON Stopped cold the planned attack to blow up Boston airport

CLINTON Stopped cold the planned attack to blow up Lincoln and Holland Tunnels in NY

CLINTON Stopped cold the planned attack to blow up the George Washington Bridge

CLINTON Stopped cold the planned attack to blow up the US Embassy in Albania

-- Tried to kill Osama bin Laden and disrupt Al Qaeda through preemptive strikes (efforts denounced by the G.O.P.).

-- Brought perpetrators of first World Trade Center bombing and CIA killings to justice.

-- Did not blame Bush I administration for first World Trade Center bombing even though it occurred 38 days after Bush left office. Instead, worked hard, even obsessively -- and successfully -- to stop future terrorist attacks.

--Named the Hart-Rudman commission to report on nature of terrorist threats and major steps to be taken to combat terrorism.

-Clinton sent legislation to Congress to TIGHTEN AIRPORT SECURITY. (Remember, this is before 911) The legislation was defeated by the Republicans because of opposition from the airlines.

-Clinton sent legislation to Congress to allow for BETTER TRACKING OF TERRORIST FUNDING. It was defeated by Republicans in the Senate because of opposition from banking interests.

-Clinton sent legislation to Congress to add tagents to explosives, to allow for BETTER TRACKING OF EXPLOSIVES USED BY TERRORISTS. It was defeated by the Republicans because of opposition from the NRA.

-Clinton increased the military budget by an average of 14 per cent, reversing the trend under Bush I.

-Clinton tripled the budget of the FBI for counterterrorism and doubled overall funding for counterterrorism

-Clinton detected and destroyed cells of Al Qaeda in over 20 countries

-Clinton created national stockpile of drugs and vaccines including 40 million doses of smallpox vaccine.

-Of Clinton's efforts says Robert Oakley, Reagan Ambassador for Counterterrorism: "Overall, I give them very high marks" and "The only major criticism I have is the obsession with Osama"

-Paul Bremer, current Civilian Administrator of Iraq disagrees slightly with Robert Oakley as he believed the Clinton Administration had "correctly focused on bin Laden.

-Barton Gellman in the Washington Post put it best, "By any measure available, Clinton left office having given greater priority to terrorism than any president before him" and was the "first administration to undertake a systematic anti-terrorist effort"

[opihimoimoi]

22. This should obviously made well known.,... that the media refuses to

disseminate these information postyed tells of a bad sign....

Slanted news and journalism rides again...YELLOW JOURNALISM