Bush Re-SelectionTalking Points (Ron Kaufman on CSPAN)

[democraticinsurgent]

This morning a caller on CSPAN asked Ron Kaufman, republican strategist, to name ANYTHING that Bush has done right as pResident.

His response: "We're fighting terrorism on their soil instead of ours. That alone should be reason to vote Bush. We've created something like 1.7 million new jobs and the economy is stronger now that it has been since Bush took office."

That was it. Those two points were all he could summon up.

And both bogus. There's still a net loss of jobs under * and the only terrorism we're fighting abroad is that which we have created.

Can we win? With those being *'s proclaimed accomplishments, SHAME ON US if we don't.

[rock]

1. 1.7 million created

Compare to Clinton's 20 million wasn't it (net!)

On edit: OK, so it was across 8 years versus 3 1/2.

[gratuitous]

2. "Created" 1.7 million jobs, Sparky?

Was that in India or China? Cause it sure as hell wasn't in the United States!

[niyad]

3. since 3 million jobs were lost under *, still leaves us 1.3m short, doesn'

it? even if the jobs were created here (remember when they wanted to recategorize fast-food workers as manufacturing?)

[Brotherjohn]

4. Hmmmn. I look at the numbers and see NO jobs created. I see jobs LOST.

When you get back up to a net of zero, George, call me.

(Actually, you'd have to add a few hundred thousand jobs just to keep up with population growth).

As for the "fighting on their soil instead of ours", first of all, who is the "they" in "their soil"? Everything we have seen so far tells us that Iraq was NOT a terrorist haven until WE made it one.

Besides, the obvious reply to this is "since when are terrorists limited to fighting where we tell them to?" Yes, some terrorists are drawn to our military abroad to make a statement, and because it's an easier target for them. But it seems to me that our military actions abroad have only INCREASED the threat of terrorism, both at home and overseas (as attested to by the State Department's own numbers, and the Department of Homeland Security's increasingly more omnious warnings).