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onehandle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-27-04 12:12 PM
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Franken and Hannity fighting on AAR!!!!
Give him Hell, Al!
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nini Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-27-04 12:13 PM
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1. is that who he's talking to now?
?
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dennis4868 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-27-04 12:14 PM
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yes!
yaaaack!
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Caution Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-27-04 12:14 PM
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2. please fill us cube rats in on what's being said.
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tishaLA Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-27-04 12:16 PM
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3. They were arguing about Hannity misrepresenting
Dean's comments about an "interesting theory" (LIHOP). Now they have moved to "did Al or did Al not get escorted out of the FOX studios" and something I didn't quite catch re: Kucinich.
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dennis4868 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-27-04 12:16 PM
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5. Hannity....
says that Al lied in his book when he stated that he was not escorted out of the FOX building.....WTF?
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DoomFook Donating Member (36 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-27-04 02:19 PM
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69. Franken Is Credible
I like Al alot. He did a fine job against that Nazi Hannity. Hannity is nothing but a card board cut-out with a voice chip programmed by freepers.
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CatWoman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-27-04 12:16 PM
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4. HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
"I say she because you're Playgirl's sexiest".

ROFL

Al had to explain to Hannity that mostly gay men read Playgirl.
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indigobusiness Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-27-04 12:21 PM
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13. Oh man yeah....quote
Hannity: What does that mean?

Franken: Don't commit any crimes.
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indigobusiness Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-27-04 12:17 PM
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6. Hannity can't deal with anything beyond the superficial.
He has no respect, or understanding (maybe), of context.
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ChavezSpeakstheTruth Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-27-04 12:19 PM
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7. I think Hannity is winning
hate to say it. Al sounds foolish and he's being bullied
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tishaLA Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-27-04 12:20 PM
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9. Freeper!
:P
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ObaMania Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-27-04 12:20 PM
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10. I'm with you on that.
Al is losing big-time!
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nini Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-27-04 12:21 PM
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11. he's not as rude as hannity.. that's for sure
hannity won't let him finish his points.. but that's what he has to do when he knows Franken will prove him wrong.

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indigobusiness Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-27-04 12:24 PM
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22. If it is a pettiness contest...Hannity is winning
He is colossally superficial and interrupts to hijack the argument as soon as it veers into the meaningful.
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DeadHead67 Donating Member (529 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-27-04 12:19 PM
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8. Al should just kosh him in the head with a chair !
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Poisonskin_com Donating Member (114 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-27-04 12:21 PM
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12. ugh
Fuck. I cannot stand Hannity's voice. Such a little shit.
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Zen Democrat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-27-04 12:24 PM
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23. Hannity is a bully who won't tolerate people doing this to him.
Al Franken is bending over backwards to let Hannity talk. Hannity is interrupting and blowing his spew. On his show, Hannity will tell people, THIS IS MY SHOW AND I'LL DO THE TALKING. Al's trying to be funny and Hannity can't see the joke when it hits him between the eyes.
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SaveElmer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-27-04 12:21 PM
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14. Franken just called him on Kosovo ... n/t
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CatWoman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-27-04 12:23 PM
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17. and Dickwad keeps trying to change the subject
some on this thread say Al is losing. Al is simply not being a blowhard like Hannity. He tries not to talk over him, and to show him some courtesy.
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Walt Starr Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-27-04 12:21 PM
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15. I had to turn it off
I hated hearing Hannity spewing.
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bossfish Donating Member (789 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-27-04 12:24 PM
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20. Loved it when Al asked Hannity, if Hannity did any USO shows..
...sort of a dumb question, but

Hannity, "no"

Al, "that's right, you don't have the talent"

Sort of cheap shot, but got Sean all exercised...
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Walt Starr Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-27-04 12:22 PM
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16. Hannity WALKED all over Al
This was a BAD move by Franken.
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DoomFook Donating Member (36 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-27-04 12:46 PM
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59. Hannity Loses
Al did a good job although he should of had some notes with him because Hannity is all programmed on a daily basis from saying the same crap over and over.
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dennis4868 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-27-04 12:23 PM
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18. Franken allows Hannity....
to keep talking non-stop....
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MattNC Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-27-04 12:24 PM
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19. i do have to say
that listening to the two side-by-side, Al just doesn't have the great voice for radio that Hannity does. But that still doesn't mean I still don't think Hannity is the scum of the earth. :)
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ChavezSpeakstheTruth Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-27-04 12:24 PM
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21. Hannity is beating his brains out because he's calm - even if he is full
of shit. Franken sounds whiny and desperate
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bagnana Donating Member (858 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-27-04 12:25 PM
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24. no way, Hannity was taken to the cleaners, esp. on his
Dean slip up. I literally threw my hands up and cheered for Al. Hannity is a LLLIIIIAAARRR and was caught on it!!!!
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ChavezSpeakstheTruth Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-27-04 12:30 PM
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34. That was fantastic
I think Al sounded like he was lying to Hannity about being thrown out
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SemperEadem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-27-04 12:28 PM
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27. But in the end, Hannity will leave the studio and Franken will
parody the hell out of him with his punishing humor for the rest of his shift. Hannity may be winning the battle, but Franken will win this war in the end... it's his show.
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tishaLA Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-27-04 12:27 PM
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25. Hannity just said
"The right goes too far sometimes too" LOL. The pretense of sincerity. Dear Jeebus. Hannity promises to measure his words more carefully. If only one could believe you, dear Seannie boy.
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City Lights Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-27-04 12:28 PM
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What a prick.
Al is talking and sean starts talking to someone else. He's not even listening to Al. Asshole!
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redqueen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-27-04 12:28 PM
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Al did not get walked all over
Al is slamming Hannity on 'our common enemy'... Al pointing out that our direst problem is our common enemy, which is NOT Iraq, and cowardly Hannity starts yammering hi to Janeane and about how she's mean to him...

Al says, 'glad you're listening to my point about our greatest danger'

LOL!
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tishaLA Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-27-04 12:29 PM
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That was amazing.
"Hi Janeane!" Jesus christ
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redqueen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-27-04 12:31 PM
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36. He had to do *something*
He was being shown up as the idiot he is!

LOL!
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Gothic Sponge Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-27-04 12:31 PM
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39. He's a creep! He tried to bait Janeane yesterday too!
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librechik Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-27-04 12:32 PM
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40. "Janeane called me a cretin on her show the other night" B***h!
that is too mean to cretins.

Hannity is an insult to boxes of hammers.
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Cat Atomic Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-27-04 12:28 PM
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26. You can't let a guy like Hannity just blather on like that.
He interrupts Franken ever 3 seconds, and Al lets him. Then Hannity takes his time spouting talking points and outright lies non-stop.
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redqueen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-27-04 12:29 PM
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28. He just sounds like a nutcase
the audience to this show knows however many times he interrupts to lie, he's lying.
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callous taoboy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-27-04 12:30 PM
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35. Hannity
is but a fart in the skillet.
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City Lights Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-27-04 12:29 PM
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29. More double-standards.
Tells Al he needs to be more objective and hold Dems to same standard he holds pukes.
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mac56 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-27-04 12:30 PM
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30. I don't think Al's getting beaten as badly as some are representing it.
Hannity's definitely a boor, but he's slipped up a few times.
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ChavezSpeakstheTruth Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-27-04 12:31 PM
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37. He slips up but he was running the interview
Al let him take control
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Gothic Sponge Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-27-04 12:34 PM
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42. I think he did that because he wanted to keep him on the air
If he pissed him off, he would have walked away.
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mac56 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-27-04 12:37 PM
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45. I thihk you're right.
I think Al gave Hannity the rope with which to hang himself. This way Al shows the world what an obnoxious boorish fucktard Hannity really is. Maybe not the victory many would have wanted, but a real victory just the same.
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Anwen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-27-04 01:01 PM
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65. I agree with you
I though Al held his own. I thought Hannity just sounded shrill
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giant_robot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-27-04 12:30 PM
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31. Nice playgirl dig at the end!! n/t
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redqueen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-27-04 12:30 PM
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32. Al's parting shot - Hannity very popoular among gay men here in America
Edited on Tue Jul-27-04 12:30 PM by redqueen
LOL!

Al asks as cowardly Hannity walks out 'can I come on your show?'

Cowardly Hannity 'yeah... well we'll think about it'

BAWK BAWK!

How's that for a tell as to who won this little fight?
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SaveElmer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-27-04 12:30 PM
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33. It's easy to spout on
When you have a complete disregard of the facts!!!

Al nails him on the facts and Hannity just simply says he disagrees...it's why the non-thinkers love him. They can count on him to tell them that the facts don't matter.
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buycitgo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-27-04 12:38 PM
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47. exactly, but Al REALLY needs to have down PAT
the list of short/sweet Bush lies and flipflops with which to HAMMER The likes of Hannazi

it was the BEST when he actually made the stooge ADMIT that he "misspoke" about the Dean thing, but ONLY when they played his OWN words from a tape

misspoke?

Al shouldn't have let him get away with THAT one

should have played one of those LIAR clips they always do

too bad they didn't have those racked up

Hannity really came off badly, as others have pointed out

he had very little, if ANYTHING going but bluster and bullying

I don't remember him marshalling any facts to support his emotional calls for unquestioning patriotism.

whenever Al called him on this BS, he tried to sweep it aside

Al should have badgered him more on that

want an earpiece, Al?
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UTUSN Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-27-04 12:31 PM
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38. HANNITY Motor Mouth, Al Can Barely Get a Word In n/t
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dennis4868 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-27-04 12:33 PM
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41. Al was terrible....
Edited on Tue Jul-27-04 12:35 PM by dennis4868
he allowed Hannity to keep on talking and everytime Al tried to get a word in Hannity would interrupt and talk over him or start talking to someone else ("Hi Jeneane"). Hannity was lying his ass of as usual and he got away with it big time.....I AM DISAPPOINTED IN AL. The whole purpose of his show is to show how the right lies and distorts the truth and he allowed Hannity to do it on his show....WTF? I am sure Hannity will walk away from this thinking I got Al real good and I am in the right....yaaaack! :-(
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Gothic Sponge Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-27-04 12:38 PM
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46. Al was being too gracious
He didn't want Hannity to get pissed and walk away.
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dennis4868 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-27-04 12:39 PM
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52. so let him walk away....
being gracious went out the door after the 2000 election!
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Gothic Sponge Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-27-04 12:43 PM
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55. Yeah, but it makes great ratings for AAR
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redqueen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-27-04 12:39 PM
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50. If he was so sure he 'got Al real good' and won this fight
why would he chicken out of having Al on his show?

He has no illusions about how convincing his shoutfest was. His constant loud ranting, however much he was allowed to rant, doesn't make up for his being short on facts.
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librechik Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-27-04 12:35 PM
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43. Al makes the same mistake we do: that a rational discussion can be carried
out with these snakes and insectoids.

Not gonna happen.

They only care about labeling things in as memorable a way as possible, and avoiding all rational discussion. They would lose every time if they ever tried to debate on the facts and issues.
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Cat Atomic Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-27-04 12:36 PM
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44. It's Al's show. He should just hold Hannity to a single point.
Edited on Tue Jul-27-04 12:38 PM by Cat Atomic
And ignore him when he tries to change the subject. Just keep beating him over the head with one thing until the spot is over.

I think Al had him right at the beginning when he pointed out that Hannity criticized Clinton in Kosovo during wartime, but now says that sort of thing is undermining the troops. Hannity just went into his meaningless garbage about "enemies, enemies, enemies, we must work together", and then changed the subject.

Al should just tell him it's his show and if Hannity won't answer the question he should leave. Al's got a lot of knowledge on this stuff, and I think he's easily baited away from a subject in his eagerness to disprove a new lie.
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K-W Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-27-04 12:38 PM
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48. What liberals are capable of destroying Hannity.
He is a master of deception and rhetoric, and exploiting liberals in debates. What liberals could stand his barrages and hit him hard and fast?
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Guy Whitey Corngood Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-27-04 12:39 PM
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51. Mike Malloy. n/t
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Gothic Sponge Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-27-04 12:41 PM
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53. Mike Malloy and Randi
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Reverend_Smitty Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-27-04 12:44 PM
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56. They would nail him to the wall
Those two can beat any wingnut at their own game...however I think that if Hannity was on Randi's show and he started talking to someone else, I think she would B-Slap him!!

Al is not the kind of guy who will talk over you, he will be polite and let you make an ass-hole out of yourself.
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Guy Whitey Corngood Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-27-04 12:44 PM
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57. I forgot her. She devoured Oliver North
and then proceeded to deposit him on the toilet.
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underpants Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-27-04 12:50 PM
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63. Hannity isn't the master of anything-Al took him apart
Hannity's excuse about stwisting what Dean said was simply ignoring the facts that had just been put in front of him.

Anyone who barely pays attention to the actual news can take him apart that is why he doesn't allow himself to get in that situation....usually.
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Bettie Donating Member (774 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-27-04 12:38 PM
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49. In the end...
Hannity came off as an arrogant liar and a dickhead.

For those who are so disappointed with Al's performance, well, he seemed to me to be trying to be polite while disagreeing with the guy and yes, it may have made him look weak to some people.

Still, I do think that Hannity came off as the loser in their little debate.
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Gothic Sponge Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-27-04 12:50 PM
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61. I think Al did fine for his style of radio
Al's style is not the aggressive style like Hannity. If it had been Mike Malloy with Hannity....Hannity would have been walking away crying.
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underpants Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-27-04 12:51 PM
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64. That's why I like Al is it is FUN to listen to
Different is good.
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Ronnie Donating Member (674 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-27-04 01:10 PM
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66. It's always difficult to
debate somebody who lies unabashedly.
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K-W Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-27-04 12:43 PM
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54. Al is a good liberal, conservatives like him because he lets them talk.
It is a disadvantage here, but I think it has helped al get the exposure he has gotten, so all in all, Ill take it.
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buycitgo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-27-04 12:46 PM
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60. wanna bet who has the higher Q rating?
bet it's not even close

who watches FOX cable?

how long has SNL been on the air?

how many movies has Hannazi been in?

AAR may benefit from more exposure, but Franken himself doesn't need it
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dennis4868 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-27-04 12:45 PM
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58. The problem with this was....
Edited on Tue Jul-27-04 12:46 PM by dennis4868
Al talks to slow, Hannity knows how to talk over people, and Hannity comes with his RW talking points from Rove....Al lost that battle big time...hate to admit it....when Hannity said that even Clinton in 1998 said that Saddam was a threat I almost lost it....THAT IS WHY CLINTON BOMBED SADDAM IN 1998 and afterwards the military said they most likely destroyed most of saddam's dangerous weapons! Sheeesh...and Al just sits there quiet talking about how sexy Hannity is...WTF?
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buycitgo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-27-04 12:50 PM
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62. agreed that Al should have TALKED OVER him at that
point and said that WJC made the obvious and sensible decision NOT to invade

AND.......if Saddam was SUCH A THREAT, as Hannazi claims, WHY did they wait for TWO years to invade?

what did 911 have to do with the invasion, if he had all those nukes, biochem weapons, huh?

why did we WAIT those two years, Sean?

HUH?

aren't we lucky they didn't NUKE us before we saved ourselves from him?

why don't dems ask these thugs why they weren't SCREAMING to invade Saddam back in 98?

OH, yeah, they were too busy screaming DOGWAG, weren't they?

how come dems never hit em with that?
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charlie105 Donating Member (408 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-27-04 01:26 PM
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68. And you can bet the barn that Hannity is going to play the
recording all day long on his show. And for many days to come, with a little creative editing thrown in. To show how he bravely confronted Al Franken on the the latter's turf, the lib network, and blew him out of the water.

The bottom line is that Hannity is not going to convert any non-believers, no matter how long he trumpets this 'triumph'.
So, yes, maybe a tactical mistake by Al to have Hannity on the show, but Since Hannity has been pooh-poohing the whole concept of AAR, his coming on the show adds legitimacy to its existence.
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dennis4868 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-27-04 02:51 PM
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73. It was a mistake....
Al let Hannity control the conversation and do most of the talking...always getting the last word.
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AmerDem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-27-04 01:23 PM
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67. Link? any mp3 or stream anywhere?
:kick:
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donhakman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-27-04 02:46 PM
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71. Hannity should go against
Robin Williams.

It would be a fast but fair fight.
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LuminousX Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-27-04 02:39 PM
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70. I didn't hear any of it, but
Consider what Franken has been able to do up to now against these blowhards. Now he was clips of Hannity spouting and spewing, making assertions that can be discredited at a later more beneficial time.
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redqueen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-27-04 02:49 PM
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72. And without interruption
nice, clean audio.

I like the way you think.
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