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MichiganVote Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-27-04 08:10 PM
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Bill O'Reilley will send my son to fight in Fallujah
Posters my son volunteered for the National Guard to safeguard our homeland. An honorable thing to do for a 20 year old young man.
He did not volunteer for Special Forces, for the Marines or for the Navy or Air Force. He did not volunteer to kill babies, abuse prisoners or rape children. Instead, he wanted to commit himself to the protection of this land, our land, that he loves. His unit will leave for Iraq in January of 2005. Almost a year after Saddam Hussein has been captured and over half a year since the provisional government in Iraq will have been declared.

Tonight I watched Michael Moore try to elicit a response from Bill O'Reilley about whether he would send my son to fight in Fallujah. Bill did not deny that he would do so.

So that means that Bill and people like him will commit my son to defend a country that is not his own, that does not want him on its soil and for whom no sacrifice has been good enough, strong enough or sympathtic enough. What the Iraqi's refused to do for themselves, Bill O'Reilly has determined my son should do for them.

I encourage posters to alert Mr. O'Reilly to the fact that my son, and soldiers like him, signed on to defend out democracy, not the democracy of Iraq. For myself, Fox News and I have permanently severed relations. Never again will I watch a coward such as this man to offer any commentary, let alone this commentary.

Thank you.
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DemWitch Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-27-04 08:12 PM
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1. I wrote him a letter
Not that he'll ever read it in a million years...

Bill,

If silence is golden, then you must be loaded. Your refusal to answer Moore's question about sending your own flesh and blood into harms way speaks volumes about your true feelings about our fight over there. C'mon, Bill, fess up... Nothing is worth losing a child over, and you know it.

Eric Connine
Ilion, NY
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cthrumatrix Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-28-04 12:05 PM
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19. bingo.... he will not send his son. Another chickenhawk.
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Downtown Hound Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-27-04 08:14 PM
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2. I'll do so
O'Reilly is a fraud, a coward, a liar, and a whore. I hope your son makes it through okay.
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Longhorn Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-27-04 08:15 PM
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3. He's willing to send my son, too.
He's also 20, a Marine. He's scheduled for Japan next but who knows after that?

You're right -- the man is a coward.
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bluestateguy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-27-04 08:19 PM
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4. Oh don't worry
There will be plenty of Young College Republicans ready to enlist in the armed forces to defend Fallujah. ;)
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MichiganVote Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-27-04 08:27 PM
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5. Thanks guys
Its lonely at the bottom. There is never a good time to be the parent of a service man or woman but this shit is really the pits and there just a renot that many people who understand.

Thanks again.
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Columbia Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-27-04 08:37 PM
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6. Where did he say that?
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MichiganVote Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-27-04 09:34 PM
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8. Moore asked him at least three times
whether he would send his kid or another person's kid to Fallujah to fight. He declined to answer saying only that he would fight himself.

So, I conclude, that since he will not answer in the negative, he has answered in the positive. Basically what this means is that Bill O'Reilly has the means and the power to talk big unless he has to answer to parents such as my husband and I as well as the thousands of other parents whose sons and daughters are at risk in Iraq.

Even Rumsfeld would have had the balls to say yes, your kid should go.

I name Bill O'Reilly a coward. He is on my shit list and that is not a good place to be. Who, afterall, is Bill O'Reilly except a cheap TV hack looking to make a shock buck at the expense of parents throughout this country?

Ban him from the airwaves.
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Columbia Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-27-04 11:32 PM
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9. I've read the transcript three times
And I can't find anywhere where Moore asks him to send someone else's child to Iraq.

I agree with you that he is a cheap TV hack (actually I think less of him than that), but I don't think you should conclude what you conclude from this interview (although it still very well could be true).
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MichiganVote Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-28-04 11:06 AM
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12. Moore asked him IF he would send
his own kid and also asked him if he would send someone's else's kid. I saw the program. Don't know what transcript you are reading but if its Fox's and you can't find it, can't say I am not surprised.

O'Reilly's response was to become evasive and deny an answer to the questions. Hence, my determination that since he would not offer an unequivocal "No", he can only mean yes. O'Reilly did not offer any conditions for a response of yes or no. I expect most people would offer something as a way of explaining their position one way ot the other. Instead O'Reilly, the great purveyor of everyone else's position, evaded offering one of his own.

Even a backwoods Bubba would have answered that one unless you have something to protect. So my opinion is that he is a "I'll dish it out, but I'll work not to take anything" kind of coward.
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MichiganVote Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-28-04 11:26 AM
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14. Specific to the video
Moore asked O'Reilly at the tailend of the taping,

"You wouldn't send another parent's kid to secure Fallujah would ya?"

Answer

"Ummm..." held up his left hand and then said he would sacrifice himself. He did not deny that he would send other parent's children to Fallujah.

Needless to say I think this means that if my kid is called up, I need to contact O'Reilly and tell him to pack up.
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buycitgo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-27-04 11:37 PM
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11. he would fight himself???????
WHY didn't MM axe him why, then, he DIDNT fight in NAm?

unless he had a high number, he'd have HAD to

no deferments for him at his age

born in 1949, so he was PRIME draft age
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Nomad559 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-27-04 08:37 PM
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7. Michael Moore VS Bill O'Reilly - Video
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Hobarticus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-27-04 11:37 PM
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10. God go with your boy...bring him home safe.
Bring them ALL home safe.

All the young dudes...
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MichiganVote Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-28-04 11:27 AM
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15. Thanks, all prayers accepted.
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knitter4democracy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-28-04 11:39 AM
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17. It's always us, never (or hardly) them--but it's not a class war!
Maybe it's just my state pride talking, but it's also often Michiganders, isn't it? I know so many who are sending their sons and daughters from here in Kalamazoo that life-long Republicans are starting to get pissed and are thinking of voting for Kerry--at least he'll think twice or even more about sending their kids to die.

I'm so sorry. Where in Michigan are you? I'm trying to finish some projects so I can start knitting socks for our people over there. What's your son's shoe size? Have you checked out http://www.anysoldier.us (it lists all the things our people need)--frickin' shame!
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MichiganVote Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-28-04 12:03 PM
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18. My son is not posted as yet
He is out of the Wyoming armory. Thank you and you may send your items there and they will be provided to troops.

Yes, I am aware of the anger that the Kalamazoo people have and it is justified. I am sending a letter to Granholm about this.

People NEED to know this. The National Guard troops are serving longer deployments in Iraq that the regular army and the marines. This is taking unfair advantage of all of the troops but of these troops in particular there can be no doubt. There are some very shady things going on among the military leaders and the politicans with regard to troop deployment much of it having to do with $$ and this election.

Imagine this. Here we are with one of the largest Muslim communities in the country (NO DISCRIMINATION INTENDED) and on the border of another country and yet OUR homeland security is depleted? This is sensible? Who is going to respond to a full out terrorist attack in Michigan? Our senior Vets?
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truthspeaker Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-28-04 11:07 AM
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13. Fox's advertisers are not targeting 20y.o.s on a NG salary
Therefore, your son's life is of no consequence to O'Reilly.
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MichiganVote Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-28-04 11:29 AM
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16. Yeah no shit
But guess what? They don't give a rat's ass about anyone at any age as long as we keep watching their dumb ass show. If we had to pay for the progamming on TV today, would we do it?

If this guys show was a movie or a play, would we pay to see it and stay through the end? If the answer is no, then what makes it better when it is free?
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