Dammit. It's breaking my heart to watch Howard Dean.

[Bertha Venation]

He should be our guy. :cry:

Go Kerry/Edwards.

[Beaverhausen]

1. Mine too!

[Corgigal]

2. Me three

but maybe another time.

[dionysus]

3. oh, what should have been!!

Go Doctor!!!!

[TrustingDog]

4. me too... and am not American...

That Is the Man I would trust with the 49th. Deaners is awesome.

[RandomKoolzip]

5. Nooooo shit.

Kerry's gonna be the man, though. Because WE will hold his feet to the fire.

[Bertha Venation]

22. "WE will hold his feet to the fire" -- damn right we will.

And he'll do right.

I hope.

At any rate, he'll be a damn sight better than *.

[RandomKoolzip]

25. Kerry will be hit with a MASSIVE e-mail barrage in January.

n/t

[Bertha Venation]

36. I'm in.

:bounce:

[Tatiana]

6. I'm in tears.

"I sold my bicycle for democracy."

[gauguin57]

9. ... And George W. Bush FELL OFF his bicycle for democracy.

Twice.

[progressivebydesign]

I hear ya..

.. I love Kerry/Edwards, but no one, NO ONE energized our Party the way Howard Dean did. Kerry deserves the nomination, but he will owe Howard Dean a great debt when he is elected in November. Howard Dean woke us up and brought us together. He's awesome! The delegates love him..

[calimary]

45. It took The Doctor to give the Democrats a BACKBONE TRANSPLANT!

I vigorously promote Kerry/Edwards, but my heart STILL belongs to "Hollerin' Howard." He woke the party up. He gave a prominent voice to those of us who've been so angry for so long, and SO IGNORED by everyone else. THAT'S why we love him. That's why I do, anyway. He said what I felt. He said EXACTLY what I felt. He said EVERYTHING I felt. And he did it all while everybody else was still playing it safe.

[Cleita]

7. He was our guy. He got railroaded.

Okay it's Kerry for the next eight years, but in those eight years we have to change how this is done so the next time we get the guy the people wanted, not the one the politicians wanted.

[JerseygirlCT]

20. But what I really admire about him

(And, I'll confess, I've been a Kerry supporter all along) is that instead of whining and complaining and pulling the party apart, he's dug in to work.

He's going to cause more of the changes he wants this way. Contrast to Nader and his ego-trip. He proved it wasn't about him, but about all of us.

I say he's shown he's a real class act.

[Bertha Venation]

23. Hear, hear, Jerseygirl.

[salonghorn70]

30. If I Remember Correctly

Democratic voters (those would be people) all over this country voted for Kerry and not Dean. So if people all over the country voted for Kerry, doesn't that mean they wanted Kerry?

BTW, Cleita, I know that its tough to lose. I've supported a few myself: Udall 1976, Kennedy 1980, Hart 1984, Gore 1988. But sometimes you just have to realize that your candidate lost because he lost and for no other reason.

I've said it before that I am not a Dean fan. BUT I think that he has been first class in the way he has supported Kerry, raised money for Kerry and did us all a favor by taking on Nadar.

You know a good way to forget about losing? Toast a few.:toast:

[Pastiche423]

33. Wrong!

Iowa and NH voted for kerry.

It should have been President Dean!

[Lorien]

49. Exactly. I wish the rest of us had had a chance

to vote for our candidate! Once the media announced that "Kerry's the one" and fired up the attack machine against Dean, it was all over for the people's candidate. They'll do a "Dean" on Kerry and push Bush* on us for another four years- I'm afriad that's something we can bank on.

[Cleita]

37. When he got slapped with the Dean scream thanks to our

wonderful media and every other Dem who didn't support Dean, he lost his momentum. If the primary had been held nationwide, in one twenty-four hour period, the results would have been different. I am very certain. Every Democrat I know in California, who had favored Dean voted for Kerry during the primary because he was preselected. I don't think this would have happened in a nationwide primary.

Look Kerry will be a fine President, but I think Howard would have been a beacon of change.

[Bjornsdotter]

51. Yes, all states vote the same day....

...exactly what I thought! If we had all voted the same day Dean would have won. I voted for him in Illinois even though Kerry already had the numbers needed. It was a matter of principle.

Cheers,
Kim :toast:

[Bertha Venation]

54. *choke* Hardly, my friend.

He was never out of the race until the media blew one speech -- just the end of one speech -- WAY the bloody hell out of proportion. "The Iowa Screech" was played more frequently than Reagan getting shot, more frequently than the explosion of the Challenger -- more frequently than the second airplane. They played it out of context, over and over and over and over again, not just on TV but on popular morning radio and other radio shows -- until our more feeble-minded fellows, those less inclined to think for themselves, decided, "this guy's a freak, I'm not voting for him."*

Jesus Christ. Since when did exuberance become something we don't want in a national leader? Wasn't Al Gore consistently, if usually quietly, criticized because he was "dull and lifeless?" Isn't John Kerry compared to Herman Munster -- a fictional character built of cadaver parts portrayed by an actor who is now dead?!

"Democratic voters (those would be people) all over this country voted for Kerry and not Dean. So if people all over the country voted for Kerry, doesn't that mean they wanted Kerry?"

It was after Iowa that Dean fell off seriously, salonghorn. He had momentum until then, and god knows he had a monster machine of support and loyalty and sheer drive behind him.

It's not simply a matter of "they voted for Kerry, doesn't that mean they wanted Kerry?"

John Kerry will be elected president in November. I'm behind Kerry/Edwards all the way.

But Howard Dean would've been elected, too. Look at how he has energized the left; a Dean presidency would have revolutionized this country to a degree we can only dream about.

Right now, hope and dreams are all I have to hang on to. I'll work for Kerry, but if Dean were our candidate I'd be ten times as certain that we'll break the stranglehold of the RRW on our country in November.

* edited to add a sadly necessary disclaimer: I am not calling out all-the-way-Kerry supporters. I am referring to those who hadn't made up their minds before their primaries came up.

[sbj405]

8. Agree. He is wonderful

I hope we see a lot of him in the future.

[RadiDem]

10. "The good news for us is that Dean is not the nominee" Karl Rove !

Ouch

[Pastiche423]

11. He'd be soaring over whistle ass now

[Beaverhausen]

12. He is the reason I'm involved in politics

He fired me up! He was someone I believed in! I still do.

He better get a good spot in the cabinet!

[Moonbeam_Starlight]

15. He's the reason I'm involved too

he got a lot of Texans fired up down here and that is a big thing. We are still fired up, but now for Kerry.

I love you Dr. Dean, and I always will.....

[Eurobabe]

13. And Arizona, (he's on a state naming roll...)

I hope he hollers!! YEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEAAAAAAAAAA...

He wasn't even my candidate, but I admire him...

[mzmolly]

14. "Never again will we be ashamed to call ourselves Democrats"

"Were not just changing Presidents, were gonna change this country"

"This was never about ME, this was about US"

[Walt Starr]

16. I'm Walt Starr and I'm voting FOR John Kerry!

I'm PROUD to call myself a DEMOCRAT!!!

[thebigidea]

17. I wish they let him do a Howard Dean speech

this was pretty bland, and I was really looking forward to it... like someone just stitched together a few of his lines and removed all the things that made him Howard Dean.

Either that or I'm just suffering post-Kennedyitis.

[RandomKoolzip]

21. Yeah, he looked like he was on Methadone.

"No screamin' tonight, right doc?"

"Uuuuuhhh, okay."


I was looking forward to that Dean Fire and I didn't get it. Did he just get up from a nap?

[Cha]

31. I think you're right...I read that Dean said the Kerry people

wrote his speech. But didn't Dean look healthy and Good? And that standing O!

[Beaverhausen]

18. WE HAVE THE POWER!!!

[FarLeftRage]

19. Yeah, it is sad

that the good Doctor was done in by his own party...

Fuck the dlc!!

[NEOBuckeye]

27. Dean is far from done.

Don't give up on him just yet. He'll be back.

[FarLeftRage]

34. I have not given up on Dean

He has had my support from day one.

The dlc is the problem and if the party can rid themselves of this parasite, real changes can be made.

[Bjornsdotter]

50. From your mouth to Dean's ear!

Hi,

I hope so, I really really hope so! What a welcome for Dean last night...it shows we haven't forgotten him.

Cheers,
Kim :toast:

[Individualist]

24. Me too!

"It's not about me, it's about us." I love that man.

[apnu]

26. I woulda followed that man into hell! n/t

[Bertha Venation]

43. I still would. eom

[Sugarbleus]

28. Can or will he ever run again? I WILL vote for him... I like the man

much more now than I did at first. He is the reason we have any punch at all in the Democratic elections today.

THANK YOU DR. DEAN!!

[madfloridian]

41. I think he will.

He is building a base, and I think he will. At first I did not, but the more I see and hear.....the more I think yes.

[Sugarbleus]

44. That's extremely heartening and good news... thanx =o)

[ElkHunter]

29. You're right...

...Dean really should be our guy. And if Kerry loses in November (god forbid!) I will always wonder about what might have been...

[NYCGirl]

32. I love that man!

[Tosca]

35. Well

Dean is a grown-up and he's a Democrat.

[NoPasaran]

38. Go Kerry/Edwards but...

Thank you Howard Dean!
Moved to tears I was.

http://www.blogforamerica.com/

[mark11727]

39. Ya know, we're going to need a new Surgeon General in five months...

[madfloridian]

40. Me, too. He is so considerate of his supporters. Pic at TBA today.

He is always remembering the overflow crowds. This was at the Take Back America conference today. He took time to take the mic out to talk to them.

I am voting for Kerry/Edwards and have donated.

[Borgnine]

42. It broke my heart to see Gore yesterday too.

It should be Gore in that Oval Office right now.

I then found new hope in Dean, but alas, it wasn't meant to be. He's still by number one guy though, and who knows? Maybe he'll have his day yet.

Right now, I'm more pumped for Kerry/Edwards than I ever thought I'd be, but we're all in this together. Kerry, Edwards, Dean, Gore, Clinton, Clinton, Carter, Obama, Clark, etc. I've never felt more united as a party like I do now.

[calimary]

47. All the Democratic party old-timers are saying the same thing -

that they've NEVER seen this party, or a Democratic convention SO UNITED. We have one Satanic enemy, and we were all called to battle by one heck of a mighty Ninja Angel. Named Howard. We ALL owe Howard Dean. And when Kerry is inaugurated in January, I hope he'll name Dr. Dean either to lead the Department of Health and Human Services, OR to become chairman of the Democratic National Committee. In fact, I like that second choice even better. DEAN should be our party chair. He's singlehandedly responsible for infusing the whole organization with new life. He's the antibiotic for all the bush infections that riddle our body politick.

I LOVE HOWARD DEAN! I'll vote for Kerry, but my heart will ALWAYS be Howard's.

[Joe Fields]

48. I've been a yellowdog democrat for over forty years, and...

I don't owe Dean one damned thing. The best man won. Period. End of story. And yes I'm going to say it. Get over it!

[madfloridian]

52. No, this time we don't get over it.

We will vote for Kerry, but we support Dean's efforts in DFA and if he runs again.

In 2000 all the Democrats and Republicans yelled get over it, and we have not done that either.

You used that term knowing it was insulting.

[shance]

53. Al Gore is a heartbreaker too, truly. He has been overlooked by our own

And he is still a statesman about it.


We have been very fickle and fair-weathered with and towards our leaders which is very harmful in the long run.

We need to stop leaving our leaders high and dry especially when they are under seige and when the going gets tough.

Because it is when the going gets tough that we need to be there for them all the more.

[Fleshdancer]

46. I love Howard Dean

If I can't have him as my President, then I want him to lead my Party.