All who attacked Obama earlier this week: Hang your heads in shame.

[WilliamPitt]

End transmission.

[trumad]

1. Jesus Will

you just killed 20 percent of DU....

[WilliamPitt]

2. Eeeeeexxcellent

[lottie244]

46. Will, I thought you were one of those who criticized Obama?

Did i miss something that you said positive about him?

[WilliamPitt]

47. I avoided the conversation entirely

because it was stupid rhetorical excess.

[Walt Starr]

3. I just needed eight hours of gardening

and I got over it after that.

:shrug:

If a politician cannot piss me off, he'll never go anywhere in party politics.

:shrug:

Obama speaks truth to power.

[bhunt70]

9. great quote

"If a politician cannot piss me off, he'll never go anywhere in party politics."

[Walt Starr]

12. Thanks

It's true, though.

If a politician cannot piss me off he would be way to radical to ever get elected.

:evilgrin:

[Hutzpa]

52. Will, are you saying that his views are too radical..........

and not suck up enough. Do we really need suck ups or fighters? which is which, now Will I'm not trying to attack you but trying to understand your rhetoric.

[Walt Starr]

55. First, I'm Walt. ;-)

Second, I'm a curmudgeony hotheaded old bastard.

:-)

I'm saying I am so radical that if a poltician agrees with me completely and never pisses me off (remember, I'm a hotheaded curmudgeony old bastard), there is no way s/he can go anywhere in politics because they obviously would be as radical as I am.

[Hutzpa]

58. Ok......

thank you for clearing that out and sorry for the name mix-up Walter.

[Quahog]

4. The best, most inspiring speech I have ever heard

I'm 44 years old and have been a political junkie since age 13. That was, without reservation, the best speech by a politician I have ever heard in my life. My wife and I were literally in tears. It was the first time I've felt truly PROUD to be an American in years.

[Walt Starr]

5. I'm hoping the Democratic Party makes sure Obama is well protected

After last night's speech, I'm certain there are ugly Freepers with dastardly plans out there...

[City Lights]

38. I said the same thing to my sister.

I hope he stays off small aircraft.

[Hutzpa]

59. I concur to that, Are you listening Dem's? we have a treasure that....

needs protecting n/t

:grouphug:

[elf]

8. I've have to tell you what Obama did to us..............

not long ago my husband said, we have to leave this country - this can't be our home(we are German green card holders)

My husband, a very serious physicist, sat in his sofa tonight, tears ran over his cheeks.
Her was so touched and said, it's so good to see, that finally the Democrats wake up and find their voice again.

We want to see this great politician grow and someday we will vote him into the highest office!!!!!

[Tarheel_Dem]

16. Stick around Elf...........

we're going to take this country back! OBAMA rocks!

[blm]

6. I'm glad. That episode outed half of the detractors as David Horowitzes.

We know why they are here.

[Kahuna]

7. Boy oh boy.. Nothing like twisting the knife in, Will..

:evilgrin:

[WilliamPitt]

10. Nothing like it in the world

:)

[trumad]

15. Knife twister...Who, Will?

[WilliamPitt]

20. Hey! It's that guy who used to play pro ball!

:)

[trumad]

22. See.... see what I mean...???? Baaaaastard

[wndycty]

11. Well said Brother Will, well said.

:kick:

[dennis4868]

13. I knocked Obama....

big time on Sunday here at DU after his Meet the Whores Performance where he would not take Bush to task for lying us into the Iraq war....it made me mad as hell because if Obama wont talk the truth, who the hell will for the Dems? I just have to accept the fact that there is no one out there in Dem Land who goes on these shows who will articulate the facts that proves Bush did lie to us to get us into his war. I am accepting that fact as hard as it is. I do not know why no one from our side will take Bush to task for lying and do it in a substantive way (not like Michael Moore last night on FOX). It does not make sense to me.

Anyway, Obama's speech last night was the most inspiring convention speech since Ted Kennedy's spech in 1980....

[wndycty]

14. Its called pragmatism. . .

. . .is the objective at this point to bash or win. Right now its to win!

[Walt Starr]

17. Yep, and some of us old curmudgeony bastards

fall for the poking and prodding of those who seek the wedge issues to divide us.

Never again in this election cycle. The time for discussing our differences is after November 2.

From here on in, nothing but positives from this old curmudgeony bastard!

[trumad]

23. Check your pulse Walt

and have 911 on standby...

[Flubadubya]

48. MR. WALT STARR....

Your recent "gardening epiphany" :), and seeing Obama's speech last night has given me a new perspective also. I think Mr. Obama is a genuinely "righteous dude"... no doubt about it.

I do hope, sincerely, and deep within my heart that once Kerry is elected, once Mr. Obama is elected, and once the Congress (at least the Senate) is returned to us, that our Dem leaders will set about upon the path of justice... i.e. bringing it to bear upon the entire Bush cabal. And thereafter, that no Dem will ever allow themselves to be backed into such a corner again that they have to dissemble and cow-tow to an argument that has been nefariously framed by a Republican.

Like you, I pledge to refrain from any further negative comments about our Dem leaders acquiescing to the evil Rethugs... but do expect that justice will be ours someday! :hug: :loveya:

[dennis4868]

21. It is to win....

but it drives me crazy when the likes of Hannity, O'Reilly, etc..get away with saying Bush did not lie but was miseld when there is so much evidence to the contrary....it's just that no one from the Dem brings out that evidence substantively....they just sit back and allow the repubs and Bush to get away with the lie and they look silly in the meantime.....I see your point. We must keep our eyes on the prize. I just feel that taking the truth to the people is not considered bashing....it's informing the people just how dangerous Bush and his thugs are.

[wndycty]

24. However listen closely. . .

. . .they are still telling the truth, its just that they are doing in a subtle and more effective way.

[ClassWarrior]

31. Precisely Wndy.

[KC21304]

18. Right on. I know nothing got me out of the shute faster than

seeing that unfortunate name calling. I don't think I ever responded to a post so fast in my life.

What a wonderful young man.

[redqueen]

19. Who attacked Obama?

What'd I miss?

Y'know what... nevermind. I don't even care to rehash the pettiness... seen enough already this week. And it's only Wed!

*sigh*

[Selwynn]

33. Just keep re-reading my "do me a favor" post ;)

[Ravenseye]

25. You Know He's Good When...

The Republicans start sending their attack dogs onto a State Senator from Illinois.

Already what I'm hearing is probably what they'll be bringing up for years regarding him.

Apparently in a book he admits doing cocaine when he was 18. He says it was a stupid kid thing, and he turned his life around.

Now the smear machine is saying something along the lines of "Sure I did cocaine, doesn't everyone?" as if he said it, when in fact it was a Chicago humorist and not Obama.

10 years from now your Mother in Law (figuratively speaking, I of course mean My Mother In Law) will be saying that he said it and never believe that he didn't.

*sigh*

[wndycty]

26. He admitted to his cocaine use. . .

. . .has Bush?

[Hutzpa]

60. Good question n/t

[in_cog_ni_to]

41. I don't think the repugs will go there.

There IS the matter of the idiot-in-chief's little cocaine problem.

[DinahMoeHum]

27. How much you wanna bet the 'Pukes will play the alphabet game

and substitute the letter "S" for "B"? To equate "Obama" with "Osama" (as in bin Laden)?

It's happening already - consider that Jerry Falwell is apparently giving an invocation at the GOP gig next month.

Don't underestimate the racism in these folks.


:evilfrown:

[Walt Starr]

29. Oh that's already been going on for a few months now

Even Bush was taken aback by Jan Schakowsky's Obama button. she explained ti to him and the numbnuts said, "I never heard of him".

Schakowsky replied, "You will."

[Hutzpa]

62. Oh my God, and these are the same people running USA? Lord Have Mercy

on our souls.

[DrWho]

28. shades of Jessi

Jessi Jackson did about the same thing twice in the 80's, a great speech.

I think Obama has more substance though and a long political career in him.

[theboss]

49. The big difference is that Obama strikes me as a moderate

Even during his most electrifying speeches, I would hear Jesse and go, "Oh, no . . . bad idea." I agreed with nearly everything Obama said.

[molly]

30. I was sitting in my kitchen - alone

except for the cats and the dog and I CHEERED!!!! The windows were open and the neighbors probably thought I had finally gone off the deep end - but I did not care!!!

:party:

:toast:

:kick: :kick: :kick: :kick: :kick: :kick:

[proud patriot]

50. That was me too , cheering hooting and hollering

:D

[Zomby Woof]

32. until last night

I had never even posted about him on DU and knew very little about him. I considered last night my introduction to him. Needless to say, I am a major fan and want to see him go as far as possible.

As for anyone bad-mouthing him, we all know DU has lots of weak-willed, self-centered hysterics and whiny malcontents who get really shrill when someone says something that even mildly pricks the little bubble of unreality in which they dwell.

Woof! :hi:

[DinahMoeHum]

34. He certianly won me over last night. This was the first time

I got to hear him speak.

:kick:

[Hutzpa]

63. Me too n/t

:bounce:

[meti57b]

35. Exactly what did Obama say or do that could have resulted in attack?

This is not an argument post, .. I just simply didn't see what happened. I can not imagine what this exemplary young man and promising future Democratic candidate for prez and vice-prez could have said that merited any attack.

[WilliamPitt]

36. He didn't attack Bush in the way some here want to see

He said Bush "meant well" and a whole crew of the DU Disaffecteds went sailing off the deep end.

[in_cog_ni_to]

40. "He's a TRAITOR!"

"He's a piece of SHIT!" Deep end, is right.

[meti57b]

42. Thanks.

I might remind who ever attacked him, that "running for the center" is done for the general election. Before the primary and after the general election is the time to let your heart speak out.

I'm not saying to take a page from the republican playbook but at least be familiar with it.

[Walt Starr]

43. I don't believe Barack Obama will ever need to "run to the center"

Barack Obama is outside the spectrum and is bringing the center to him.

[Sparrow]

37. I wonder if Kerry can do better than Obama

probably not.

[mzmolly]

39. There is an old saying that fails so many of us here:

"Meet people where they are, and take them to where you want them to be" gifted politicians do this. DU-ers fail to realize this is key.

Obama is a gifted communicator. I don't think anyone should hang heads in shame for speaking their minds, but I do think they should grow the F up when it comes to politics. ;)

[PopSixSquish]

45. "Meet People Where They Are...

and take them to where you want them to be" That's the best thing I've heard on DU in a long time. And it's exactly what I think the Democratic Party has been trying to do this year. Unfortunately, I missed Senator Obama's (nice to start calling him that) speech, but got home in time to see Theresa Heinz Kerry's.

She talked about "appealing to the better angels of our nature" which is what I think most Americans want out of a leader. They want someone to inspire them and not to divide them. They want somebody to tell them why this idea is a good thing and why they should go along with it. They don't want somebody to browbeat or scare them into it.

This is how Bill Clinton/Al Gore won in 1992 & 1996 and I think this is how John Kerry/John Edwards will win in 2004. And they will bring America along with them.

[jpgray]

44. I wasn't one of them, but I don't see why they should be ashamed

The man gave a speech of *historic* proportions, but his policy stance didn't change between MTP and now, and therefore if the policy is what upset people, I don't see why the speech should make a difference. However, it should be clear to all how deeply Obama resonates when talking about the core values of the party--especially since he is one of the only people to have mentioned the Big Brother snooping in library records and the Sovietesque taking of Arab Americans without allowing them any due process. So maybe that's what you mean.

[AP]

51. Yeah, he was really toeing the DLC line with that speech.

[candy331]

54. Time will tell what Obama really is and others will tell where he will

be allowed to enter. I loved his speech last night, thought he was very charismatic and sincere to boot. He is still in the testing time for himself and the bigger politics though. I hope he will go far but reality tells me time will tell the story.

[AP]

57. Perhaps you haven't been paying attention to everything that he has been

doing up to this point.

He didn't sprout fully formed from John Kerry's forehead yesterday.

He has a record that people were ignoring.

[MISSDem]

53. Obama was smashing! I cried and stood and

cheered (and I was alone except for the dogs and cats and they grew alarmed). "we are not liberal America; we are not conservative America; We are the United States of America...hope for a skinny boy with a funny name..." Even David Brooks said "it is too bad that the major networks did not cover this. They missed out." The kid (he's only 42) was electrifying.

[Hutzpa]

56. I'm not an American yet but.........

his speech gave me hope, pride, confidence and motivation that there are still GOOD (had to emphasize) people who can resurrect this country again.

This is the day "I would have been proud to be an American".



:thumbsup: :wow:




:bounce:

[TeacherCreature]

61. No thank you

I loved his speech last night I didn't like what he said about bush a few days ago.

I am hoping we don't find out he is a blue dog conservative democrat once he gets in office.

[madfloridian]

64. Will, we donated to Obama as a Dean Dozen.

We criticize Dean when he says Bush had honorable intentions, and that is what a lot of the stuff was about.

A few went over the line, but this covert snickering at those of us who do not think Bush was "honorable" is just ugly.

Dean did it and Obama, and all the rest of the pack last Sunday, should NOT have praised Bush so profusely. It was wrong.