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WI_DEM Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-28-04 09:59 AM
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Re: Mrs. Kerry one pundit said she speaks more warmly of...
her first huband, Jack, than her second husband, John. Have any of you noticed that? Not that I really care. Obviuosly she lost her first husband, the father of her children in a tragedy so she may have had a closer bond with him than with JK. But this pundit--he was on MSNBC, but I don't remember which one--said that people in the heartland may not understand. I wish they would give people more credit.
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Lex Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-28-04 10:02 AM
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1. They are freakin' grasping for straws.
Edited on Wed Jul-28-04 10:30 AM by Lex
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Making stuff up. Whining and nitpicking everything she says or does.

Just like they did with Hillary.

It is sickening.



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ashling Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-28-04 10:04 AM
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8. And so it begins
they don't have Hillary to demonize as first lady
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livetohike Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-28-04 10:02 AM
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2. "People in the heartland may not understand."
Who was this idiot? Of course they will understand. This wasn't a divorce - this was a tragic death! Her husband was taken from her suddenly and it's obvious that they were in love.

You don't stop loving someone when they die, imo. Two of her sons look just like the late Sen. Heinz, btw.
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htuttle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-28-04 10:09 AM
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16. Yeah, we're just all stupid and backward here in the heartland!
That's as condescending a statement as yesterday, when they said 'the troops weren't sophisticated enough to handle F/911'.

What a bunch of snobbish pseudo-intellectuals right wing pundits have become...
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hatrack Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-28-04 10:12 AM
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18. What wuz thayut? Ah coulndna hear yew!!
Edited on Wed Jul-28-04 10:12 AM by hatrack
Lemme pull this here straw outta mah earz so ah kin HE-YUR!

What a condescending piece of shit.
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JerseygirlCT Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-28-04 10:03 AM
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3. She was married to the guy for something like 25 years
and was still deeply in love with him when he suddenly died. I don't think any human being just shakes that off and moves on.

She still loves him, and honors his memory -- which is probably very real to her in the person of her sons. There's no reason that should take away from her marriage to Kerry. Doesn't seem to bother him in the least -- he's obviously strong enough to handle that.

Only small people would be concerned about this. Looking for a story, nothing else.
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KittyWampus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-28-04 10:04 AM
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4. Teresa Had Her First Husband Ripped Violently Out Of Her Life
for people to attack a WIDOW is disgusting.

I STILL mourn my first CAT for crying out loud.

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in_cog_ni_to Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-28-04 10:04 AM
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5. Excuse me?
All she said about her former husband was that he would have been very proud of his kids! It's obvious that they will find SOMETHING wrong with anything Teresa says or does. They can eat shit. They work for the WH. We know where they're their slant is coming from. :grr:

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calico1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-28-04 10:04 AM
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6. That is a stupid thing to say
I suppose people in the heartland don't get widowed or divorced and remarried? Of course she is going to have a strong bond to her first husband because if he were still alive she would probably still be married to him. And they had 3 sons together so they must be a constant reminder of him. Just because people rebuild their lives after a tragic loss, does that mean they are not allowed to cherish memories? This pundit must think people in the heartland are idiots. What a stupid comment to make!
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Lefta Dissenter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-28-04 10:04 AM
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7. I think it speaks to the fact that
they are grownups! John is secure in his relationship with her - not threatened by a dead guy.

There is no question that she loved her first husband, and he will always hold a place in her heart, particularly as the father of her children. But that's a funny thing about hearts - there's unlimited capacity to love!
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blm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-28-04 10:05 AM
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9. The pundits rely on all or nothing thinking. There is no respect for the
Edited on Wed Jul-28-04 10:05 AM by blm
American public and their very human, everyday ability to understand that some families are visited with tragedies that change those families forever.

Shame on this narrowminded pundits who show no respect for the American people and denigrate them as shallowthinkers incapable of accepting that some families are forced into circumstances by the untimely death of a spouse.
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lovedems Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-28-04 10:05 AM
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10. I heard that last night and I live in the heartland and I think it is
perfectly acceptable to recognize her deceased husband. He is the father of her children for cryin' out loud! My husband and I have 4 sons and if anything were ever to happen to him, I would remind my children regularly that their father would be proud of them! Geesh, it is moranic the talking points they come up with! They were married for 25 years and had a family! His memory will never her, no matter how much the republicans think it should! More conservative family values for you!
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vetwife Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-28-04 10:05 AM
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11. Stupid..The man died..She had 20 someodd years with him
She gave him children. She met and loved Kerry. They have been together only 10 or so years. The man died..Of course she would probably still be with him had he not come to misfortune. John Kerry and she seem to have a bond and those pundits are ridiculous ! I give her an A for having the courage to marry someone else, I don't think I could after this good marriage. She I am sure will always mourn her late husband. Part of her died when he died. She moved on but it will take time to catch up to Love as she knew it, if ever.
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MirrorAshes Donating Member (942 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-28-04 10:05 AM
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12. Its not a matter of warmth...its just different.
She does speak lovingly about her first husband, but you must realize this was a happy, loving relationship that ended in tragedy. She and John Kerry both, I think, are wounded and have been lucky to find eachother.
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KC21304 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-28-04 10:07 AM
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13. I suppose this pundit was worried that people
in the heartland may not understand. How nice of him. I would worry more if I were him that someone might not understand what a shallow idiot I was.
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donco6 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-28-04 10:08 AM
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14. Only in the sense that he was the father of her children.
The warmth may be coming from her relationship with her children.
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liberalmuse Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-28-04 10:08 AM
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15. If so, it says a lot about her character...
and that she isn't the kind of person to take something like 'love' lightly. I would expect a genuinely warm and sincere person to never stop loving someone just because they died. I suppose a person who changes spouses like underwear wouldn't understand that.
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nothingshocksmeanymore Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-28-04 10:17 AM
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20. Says a lot about Kerry's character too that he can deal with it
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KC21304 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-28-04 10:11 AM
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17. Does anyone know who said this ?
I would really like to know.
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demnan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-28-04 10:15 AM
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19. They can just go Cheney themselves- imo
n/t
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asjr Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-28-04 10:19 AM
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I feel pundits should be outlawed. And the media who hire
them have sunk to the lowest depths ever. And the "journalists" we have must never have been taught ethics in school. All we get now is one trying to outdo the other. They create their own particular brand of headline news.
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oldcoot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-28-04 10:19 AM
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21. Does this pundit think that people in the heartland are stupid?
I can just see it now. After the election, a reporter interviews a voter in the heartland and this is what the voter says "Yes, I lost my job two years ago and both my children are fighting in Iraq but I voted for Bush because Teresa Kerry loved her first husband more than her second.
"
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City Lights Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-28-04 10:21 AM
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22. Beady-eyed Joe dissed her.
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ninkasi Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-28-04 10:23 AM
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23. This is typical thinking
of the right-wingers who are destroying our country. Since they have no souls themselves, since they have blackened, shriveled lumps of poison where their hearts belong, they can't understand real human feelings.
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LatteLib Donating Member (205 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-28-04 10:43 AM
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24. It is rare to find a journalist anymore
They go by their right wing talking points and don't bother researching their subjects. It is almost as if 95% of them attended the "National Enquirer School of Journalism".
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JI7 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-28-04 10:48 AM
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25. it's possible to love or be in love with with more than one person
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lottie244 Donating Member (903 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-28-04 10:49 AM
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26. Would they rather for her to have trashed her late husband?
Freepers are really sick, sick, sick. Sick as Rush and Hannity.
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ScreamingMeemie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-28-04 10:50 AM
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27. If telling one's sons that their father would be proud of them is speaking
that way...then I would guess so. It showed tremendous respect for their father to mention him. That's about it, but then they do love to read between the lines.. :eyes:
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lostnfound Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-28-04 12:39 PM
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28. I agree. She's honoring her children by honoring their dad. nt
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buycitgo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-28-04 12:44 PM
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29. but but but.......how does that fit in with the Kerry Chronicles?
you know, the deal that they conspired to off Heinz?

did she suffer buyer's remorse, or what?

wonder what Falwell or Scaife think about that
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