Boy, the Repugs WANT DISSENTION in the Dem party and convention.

[LittleApple81]

They cannot believe the unity that is being displayed (and I say displayed). Everybody is following the marching orders. THIS IS IMPORTANT FOR US RIGHT NOW...
The CNN O'Brien guy... trying to force Beers (the foreign policy advisor for Kerry on, and then had another fat guy contradict him...don't know the name of the fat guy, and don't care...There are so many fat, ugly, sickos coming out of the woodwork.)

[CO Liberal]

1. It Will Be Funny Seeing The Repubs Devour Each Other Next Month

:-)

[Selwynn]

16. Will they? They always seem pretty united.

[CO Liberal]

18. Here In Colorado.....

...They're arguing among themselves about who is more conservative, and who is "more Republican".

:-)

[redqueen]

2. Not just repubs.. SOME of the anti-war contingent also seem dead-set on it

*sigh*

[Nicholas D Wolfwood]

4. Unfortunately, some people just don't seem to get the idea

that sometimes you have to be a little patient in order to get what you want.

[redqueen]

5. Women's suffrage took generations to come to fruition.

Wish ECS and SBA had lived to see their goals realized.

[Nicholas D Wolfwood]

6. People lose too much perspective on these things

Civil rights/slavery took hundreds of years.
Women's rights just really happened within the last 100 years.

Things just don't change overnight. Does it suck that that's the case? Absolutely, but that's life, unfortunately. Still, some seem to think that things are going to be completely 100% fair and just, and that it can happen as soon as tomorrow, and it just flat out can't. I doubt we'll EVER get to that point. It's extremely important to work for it, but you have to be a little pragmatic too, know what victory is and the best way to achieve it. You name the civil rights issue today, whether it's gay marriage, abortion, affirmative action, whatever, there's one perfectly clear answer to that question right now, and it's getting Bush out of office. No progressive ideologies will be advanced under Bush, so that MUST be step one at this point. Anything that could possibly assist that cause should be done, and anything that could possibly harm that cause should be avoided. Get past step 1, then move on to step 2.

Edit: Typo

[redqueen]

7. I agree

and I'm getting really tired of seeing petty stuff used to encourage the BS claim that there's not much difference between Kerry & Bush.

And this during the ONE WEEK when I wish we could muster just a BIT more unity.

[Nicholas D Wolfwood]

8. I think, for the most part, we're doing a good job

There are zealots in every group and there's no getting rid of them, but I think we've got most non-zealots on board this time around.

[Kahuna]

9. Amen. We can't say this too often. It's called being pragmatic...

Nobody would behave at their jobs or in their relationships the way they DEMAND that we make our displeasure known. The reason they wouldn't do it is because it would be counterproductive. They would find themselves umemployed and alone. I don't understand why they can't apply the same principles in getting along on the job and in a relationship to obtaining their political goals. Just doesn't make sense. :shrug:

[redqueen]

10. I like your analogy!

Very well put... thanks.

[kaitykaity]

3. It's absolutely essential for them.

Imagine if we hadn't been split in 2000, when 51-plus percent
of voters voted left of center, if you count Nader/Gore votes together.

[Tierra_y_Libertad]

11. Marching orders? Achtung!

Gosh, and I thought this was the convention of the Democratic Party. You know, the one where the people have a say, not just the bosses.

BTW DISSENTION should be dissension.

[OKNancy]

12. I believe I read you are voting for Cobb

so what do you care if our convention is well run and has fantastic people speaking and is exciting and up-lifting?

[Tierra_y_Libertad]

15. I'm also voting for Patty Murray (D) and Brian Baird (D)

I've been a Democrat since 1965 and have voted Democrat in every election save one. In 1968 I voted against the war in Vietnam by voting for the Peace and Freedom Party.

And, what do you care if our convention is being run by the party bosses who try to suppress dissent over some of the party's policies. Dissent is supposed to be a principle of my party.

[OKNancy]

19. If is wrote here that I was voting

for all the local Democrats, but I was still voting for Bush and I thought that the convention sucked because ...( fill in the blank)..

Same thing in my book.

[LittleApple81]

13. There are alternate spellings for dissension:

From Merriam-Webster

Main Entry: dis·sen·sion
Variant(s): also dis·sen·tion /di-'sen(t)-sh&n/
Function: noun
Etymology: Middle English, from Middle French, from Latin dissension-, dissensio, from dissentire
: DISAGREEMENT; especially : partisan and contentious quarreling
synonym see DISCORD

http://www.m-w.com/cgi-bin/dictionary?book=Dictionary&va=dissention

[Tierra_y_Libertad]

14. My apologies.

[kwolf68]

17. Very good point and discussed here on DU

Some of us want to see a little more "red meat" for those of us pro PEACE, and more attacks against the theocracy that is rising, the visions of PNAC, and the ever encroachment of a global community that essentially enslaves us to our corporate masters.

I want to here it, but I understand we have to be pragmatic. So far, the playbook the Dems are running kicks ass.

Like a poster above said...expect the RNC to be a litany of lunacy. I can't wait.

[stavka]

20. I'd like dissention too, except in the voting booths