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Ilsa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-28-04 03:18 PM
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"Second Lady"? Excuse me, but isn't
the vice president's spouse more correctly referred to as "The Vice President's First Lady"? "Second Lady" sounds more like a harem term. Judy Woodruff had "Second Lady in Training" as the caption for Elizabeth Edwards.

I think CNN ought to know better.
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LSdemocrat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-28-04 03:21 PM
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1. Actually, I don't believe the vice-president's spouse has a title
Edited on Wed Jul-28-04 03:21 PM by LSdemocrat
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skypilot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-28-04 03:24 PM
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2. I think she is referred to as the Second Lady.
If there's a First Lady there would have to be a Second.
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comsymp Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-28-04 03:25 PM
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4. You'd think so, but no
Only the First Lady has a title.
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tom_paine Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-28-04 03:36 PM
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8. Nope. "Second Lady" is a legit apellation.
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Ilsa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-28-04 03:47 PM
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10.  It says it is a colloquial term.
It is informal.
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comsymp Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-28-04 03:47 PM
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11. If you consider "colloquial" terms to be legit...
then I ain't gonna argue wit' ya. ;)
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Cyrano Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-28-04 03:25 PM
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3. If a woman becomes VP, what will we call her spouse?
Second man? How about Cain, since Adam was the first man.
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skypilot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-28-04 03:26 PM
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5. Actually, "The Vice President's First Lady"...
...kinda sounds like part of a harem. Think about it, does the Vice President have a Second Lady? A Third...?
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Ilsa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-28-04 03:44 PM
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9. I see your point, but it
Seems to me that the same logic would apply to the president, then.
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skypilot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-28-04 03:50 PM
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13. Unless I'm mistaken (I often am)...
...I think the President's wife is simply referred to as the "First Lady" not "The President's First Lady". Someone will correct me if I'm wrong.
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comsymp Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-28-04 03:52 PM
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14. Is she not The First Lady of the US (FLOTUS)?
(as opposed to FL of the POTUS?) Kinda like the Chief Justice, etc.
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skypilot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-28-04 03:56 PM
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17. That sounds about right.
I'll settle for that. I'm getting confused.:crazy:
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yvr girl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-28-04 03:27 PM
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6. I've heard 'Second Lady' before....
It isn't used very much. When the discussion is theoretically about the Vice President's wife, it is Second Lady. When they are referring to a specific VP spouse, it is generally Mrs. X.
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SheilaT Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-28-04 03:29 PM
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7. All too often she's referred to as
Mrs So-and-so as if she didn't have a name of her own.

Still can't understand why women change their last name when they get married. Or at least not in the last thirty years or so.
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Chovexani Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-28-04 03:49 PM
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12. I plan on changing mine when I get married
But only because I hate my last name and like my SO's much better.

Sometimes it's just a matter of preference.
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Solly Mack Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-28-04 03:53 PM
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15. Why can't she just be Elizabeth Edwards?
She doesn't strike me as someone who should be stuck behind any title. Seems limiting for a women that isn't at all limited in her abilities..
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Sallyrat Donating Member (112 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-28-04 03:55 PM
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16. FYI
I work in Warsaw, NC. directly behind our office is I40, between the HWY 24 and HWY 117 exits is where John Edwards and Elizabeth Edwards'son was killed. A gust of wind flipped his jeep and he was killed instantly. After burying their son, they build a Computer Learning Center at his HS in Raleigh (ENLOE) and Mrs. Edwards worked with the kids and John Edwards closed the law office and with his own money financed his successful senate bid. They know the value of life and want to give back to this nation to help this country make a difference in the lives of our citizens in the USA and around the world. I am so looking forward to hearing their daughter introduce her mother and Elizabeth introduce our next VP. This is one tar heel that is very proud of the Edwards family. I have registered two new voters and told them this story. They are from Warsaw and didn't even know this story. Not many people do, but maybe tonight we will get a glimpse of how this changed their lives,,,,to make a difference.

Sallyrat.....
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Ilsa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-28-04 04:50 PM
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18. Welcome to DU! Great post and congratulations
on registering two new voters. You're making a difference, just like the Edwards! I knew Wade had died in a car wreck, but I didn't know the details.

I need to convince my father-in-law to get registered. He's PO'ed at * about stem cell research. He has Parkinson's Disease, but I can't get him and his wife off their butts to register and vote!
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