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louis c Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-28-04 05:04 PM
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How Can A Wealthy Patriarch and A Trial Lawyer Represent America?
Edited on Wed Jul-28-04 05:21 PM by louis c
Let's see if history can help us.

Well, George Washington was truly one of the wealthiest men in the country in the late 1700's. As a matter of fact, his wealth was achieved by marrying a wealthy widow. As I remember, he didn't turn out to be too bad as a President.

John Adams was a self made lawyer and wealthy. In fact he defended the British soldiers at the Boston Massacre. He still was elected President. I guess people were more enlightened then, and he performed pretty well as a Chief Executive.

Thomas Jefferson was surly one of the nation's wealthiest men at the beginning of the 1800's. I think he made a pretty good President, if I remember my history.

Abraham Lincoln, much like John Edwards, was a self-made trial lawyer who entered the White House with much more wealth than most Americans think. 1861-1865 were some difficult times in America, but Lincoln "overcame" the stigma of being a trial lawyer to do a most admirable job.

Teddy Roosevelt came from a wealthy, aristocrat background and became a Republican President before the corporations took the party over. Teddy stood up for the average guy by breaking up the monopolies. I guess his wealth didn't get in his way.

In 1932, Teddy's rich cousin, Franklin, took over a country in deep fiscal depression created by years of greedy Republican rule. If I can recall my parents' and grand-parents' recollections of those years, he didn't turn out to be to shabby either, despite his enormous wealth.

In more recent times, John Kennedy, who came from one of the wealthiest families in America, took over the oval office. I was 8 years old at the time. His term of office may have been short, but my own recollection, is that he did a pretty decent job sticking up for the poor and working class in America.

Now, you add the successful 8 years under the self-made trial lawyer, Bill Clinton, and maybe you can get my point.

Wealthy men and trial lawyers are the Presidents that made this country great.

Now, stack them up against Oil Tycoons, and see how they fare.

I'll take the history behind the Democratic ticket over the history behind the Republican ticket in 2004 all day long.



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MsUnderstood Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-28-04 05:07 PM
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1. I love this one!
It is exactly like the cr@p I get all the time from freepers about why their side is right but it is on my side!
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ayeshahaqqiqa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-28-04 05:12 PM
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2. Wonderful!
Especially the citations of Republican presidents. For freepers who aren't historians, folks might wish to point out that both Washington and Adams were considered conservatives for their times.
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louis c Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-28-04 05:20 PM
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3. No One Who
starts a revolution and then supports a bill of rights for the new country can ever be called Conservative for any time.

The Conservatives in that time were supporting the British. The freepers philosophical heredity is unknown, they skedaddled to England or Canada.
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ayeshahaqqiqa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-28-04 06:29 PM
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6. Federalists
John Adams was considered monarchial, and the press that was opposed to him talked up these traits. Washington, in his second term, sided with Hamilton and the Federalists.

I know, I know, to us they were revolutionaries. But to the folks at the time they were the conservatives.
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Cybergata Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-28-04 05:20 PM
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4. John Adams...
I have to disagree. He had the Alien and Sedition Acts passed during his time in office. These laws were passed hoping to keep the Democratic-Republican Party. lead by Thomas Jefferson. from ever gaining power.

Jefferson and Adams were fierce opponents. They had been on the committee to write the Declaration of Independence, but after the revolution they didn't agree on much. They carried on a correspondence in the later years, and became great friends through their written debates.

Adams and Jefferson both died (insert twilight zone music) on the July 4, 1826, 50 years after the signing of the Declaration of Independence. Jefferson died a couple of hours before Adams, but Adams's last words were "Thomas Jefferson survives."

:hippie:
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louis c Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-28-04 05:24 PM
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5. I agree
Edited on Wed Jul-28-04 05:24 PM by louis c
I know about the Alien and Sedition Act, which is the fore-runner of our Patriot Act. But, all in all, he was a still great Patriot.

Remember, I'm from Mass., and they have invoked his name at the convention in a positive tone.

Using his name helps the over all argument.

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ayeshahaqqiqa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-28-04 06:31 PM
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7. John Adams
is my cousin, so I agree with you! :) (BTW, there are more folks related to the Adams presidents than to any other presidents, it has been said).
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louis c Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-29-04 06:29 AM
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8. kick
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