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malatesta1137 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-29-04 05:43 AM
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Bush Using Drugs to Control Rage
"George W. Bush is taking powerful anti-depressant drugs to control his erratic behavior, depression and paranoia, Capitol Hill Blue has learned. The prescription drugs, administered by Col. Richard J. Tubb, the White House physician, can impair the President's mental faculties and decrease both his physical capabilities and his ability to respond to a crisis, administration aides admit privately... Tubb prescribed the anti-depressants after a clearly-upset Bush stormed off stage on July 8, refusing to answer reporters' questions about his relationship with indicted Enron executive Kenneth J. Lay. 'Keep those motherf**kers away from me,' he screamed at an aide backstage. 'If you can't, I'll find someone who can.' Bush's mental stability has become the topic of Washington whispers in recent months. Capitol Hill Blue first reported on June 4 about increasing concern among White House aides over the resident's wide mood swings and obscene outbursts. "

more at:

http://www.capitolhillblue.com/artman/publish/printer_4921.shtml
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baldguy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-29-04 06:08 AM
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1. Well, we've always known that he was f-ing insane.
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HamdenRice Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-29-04 06:24 AM
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2. Like evil father like evil son
A thread was started on this topic yesterday, but it got sidetracked because the original poster used offensive language to describe mental illness, and the general credibility of capitalhillblue was questioned.

But it gets me thinking -- didn't Bush senior use powerful anti-psychotic drugs also when it looked like he was loosing his re-election campaign?

Oddly, it was reported in the mainstream press (and then quickly dropped) at the time that he was on Haldol, which I believe is a heavy duty anti-psychotic drug. That's one factor that caused him to throw up all over the Japanese prime minister. He was also acting bizarrely, like when he tried to help end the recession by buying a pair of socks.

Does anyone else remember that Bush senior was on heavy anti-psychotic drugs when his campaign was tanking? Does this give credibility to the Bush junior anti-psychotic drug story?
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seventhson Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-29-04 07:24 AM
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9. Jis father was on Halcyom - not Haldol
I think {Powell is on it too according to reports of a dew months ago

do a search (I have to get to work) on this

it seems to be theri equivalent of ecstasy or ritalin+ - keeps them cheerful and on task with the killing and destruction
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buycitgo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-29-04 07:44 AM
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12. ambien, and this is VERY interesting
I googled for this, and found the interview at a US embassy site, then checked the first four or five google pages, and found NOT ONE single main media site for coverage of this story

NOT ONE!

not one

QUESTION: So do you use sleeping tablets to organize yourself?

SECRETARY POWELL: Yes. Well, I wouldn't call them that. They're a wonderful medication -- not medication. How would you call it? They're called ambien, which is very good. You don't use ambien? Everybody here uses ambien.

QUESTION: I use it when I go on trip and long distance travel.

SECRETARY POWELL: Yeah. I didn't need it this time because I was in the same time zone.

QUESTION: I see.

SECRETARY POWELL: It's when I go to your part of the world. I need to get my rest.


http://www.usembassy-israel.org.il/publish/press/2003/november/110801.html
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djg21 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-29-04 08:05 AM
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14. There's nothing bad about ambien.
It's a sleep aid with a very short half life. In otherwords, if you take it at a normal bedtime, it is entirely gone from your system when you wake up, and it doesn't leave you groggy or tired the next morning. Like any other sleep aid, it shouldn't be abused or taken over prolonged periods. But it really is a great medication when used properly.

I personally use Ambien when I'm workinglong hours. Otherwise, I stare at the ceiling thinking about my work and I do not sleep at all. I'd much rather take ambien so that I am fresh and well-rested the next day, than stare at a ceiling and be a mess the next day.

If all you have on Powell is that he uses Ambien, I don't think you have much. I'd bet a bunch that many on this board use ambien or other such drugs.
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buycitgo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-29-04 08:50 AM
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22. ALL sleeping pills become habit forming if taken over long periods of time
that's the way it is

who knows how long it's being taken by any of them

they sure all ACT like they're on drugs

simplest explanation for what they're doing, aside from mass criminal insanity

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KansDem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-29-04 11:14 AM
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27. Wow!! The "Medication Administration..."
The President,
The Secretary of State,
others?

No wonder the past 4 years seem like a (bad) dream...
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napi21 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-29-04 06:29 AM
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3. Why isn't any of this on any other news sites?
I actually believe it is true, at least partially. I googled the info, but every site that has this info refers back to CHB. I'm not trying to put down CHB, but I hate single source info. It's way to difficult to defend.
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Disturbed Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-29-04 06:40 AM
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4. Media doesn't report a lot of things.
Especially things that are not favorable to Bush and the Neo Fascists.
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smada Donating Member (311 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-29-04 06:43 AM
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5. It's entertaining reading
but your suspicions are correct. Single source stories are rarely to be trusted. And CHB is sort of like the National Enquirer of politics.
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Rockholm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-29-04 08:28 AM
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20. So is the drudge report....
although matty-boy has a dedicated fax line to the white house.
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buycitgo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-29-04 07:44 AM
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13. see the post above, regarding ambien
they did the same thing with Powell
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Media_Lies_Daily Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-29-04 06:51 AM
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6. Well, we do know that Richard Tubb is indeed the WH physician....
....because this link from the White House references Tubb and his review of FratBoy's National Guard records:

<http://www.whitehouse.gov/news/releases/2004/02/20040211-8.html>


As far as the prescribing of anti-depressants, I'm still trying to find independent verification of that part of the story.

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opihimoimoi Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-29-04 07:22 AM
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8. I just luv it....this means those pub whores are defending a nutcase...
Wait till Hannity gets ahold of this...will he blame Clinton?
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jcldragon Donating Member (228 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-29-04 07:22 AM
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7. You'll get a kick out of this...
I posted a link to this story at the @Forumz message board, and then looked at the topics list page & discovered that a friend of mine had started the same topic 3 minutes before I had....
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djg21 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-29-04 08:11 AM
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15. Please go to Hannity's Board.
The Repukes are going ballistic over this. Pure denial!

Here are the links:

http://www.hannity.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=75117

http://www.hannity.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=75112

http://www.hannity.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=75012

Go have fun!

See how fast you can be banned from the Hannity Message Board!
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malatesta1137 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-29-04 09:20 AM
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24. thanks but
I need to register to read? something I can't bring myself to do. You might want to copy and paste here some of their stupidity.
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kentuck Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-29-04 07:25 AM
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10. Is this for real?
He was already insane and now they have put him on drugs ?? Scary..
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Bridget Burke Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-29-04 07:31 AM
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11. Let's put a stop to these ugly rumors.
Bush can do so by releasing all his medical data. If he is, indeed, taking medication, he should explain why. By answering some hard questions, he can prove he's really in charge.

Until that happens--let's just keep asking questions. Maybe the rumors aren't yet ugly enough.


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Keirsey Donating Member (508 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-29-04 08:14 AM
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17. Halcion George Bush Google results
On Feb. 5, 1992 the White House announced that Bush would no longer take Halcion, a sleeping pill that had been banned in Great Britain and was ultimately withdrawn from the American market. There had been questions whether Halcion was responsible for the President's "tangled syntax" or his illness in Japan <3g>.


http://www.doctorzebra.com/prez/t41.htm


George Bush: The Halcyon Years
by Bruce Bethke
©1992, 2000 All Rights Reserved
Originally published in Minne Ha! Ha! - Minnesota's Sorely Needed Humor Magazine.


Oops. Typesetter got that headline wrong again. It should say, "Halcion.®" Halcyon with a "y" is a pleasant little 2,000-year-old Greek word that means "calm, happy, prosperous and peaceful."

Halcion with an "i" is the brand name of a sleeping pill with just a few unpleasant side effects. Like amnesia. Anxiety attacks. Paranoia. Occasional violent psychotic outbreaks. Of course, this is anecdotal evidence, and here in the States, anecdotal evidence doesn't count.

In less enlightened countries (eleven of them to date, including England), anecdotal evidence was enough to get Halcion banned. But not here: no, here in the good old U.S.A., we believe in big, PUBLIC tests! We try new drugs out on our PRESIDENT!

That's right. In separate stories published in the New York Times and Washington Post, it's been confirmed that George Bush is so worried about this economy thing that he has trouble sleeping. So his doctors have put him on Halcion.


http://www.spedro.com/nf_bush.html


On Jan. 21, the Globe reprinted Gina Kolata's article on the controversy over the sleeping pill Halcion. Made by Upjohn Co., it appears that that the U.S. company played fast and loose with Halcion's field tests to win FDA approval. As Halcion is now the leading sleeping pill in the world, there is a large amount of money at stake. Thus the recent move by Britain to ban the drug, and continuing controversy over the drug's side effects are news.

But the next day the NYTimes had an even better piece of news about Halcion. It was by Benjamin J. Stein, and ran on the op-ed paged as "Our Man in Nirvana." Stein mentions that recently (after President Bush fainted and blew chunks at a Tokyo state dinner) it emerged that, like James A. Baker before him, the president uses Halcion when he travels. Stein, drawing upon his own experience, candidly goes on to describe the drug's effects. "These are scary tidings. Halcion is the most terrifying drug I have ever used, and its effects are incalculably more frightening when they are at work on the President...When Halcion hits you, it's as if an angel of the Lord appears in your bedroom and tells you that nothing is important, that everything you were worried about is happening on Mars and nirvana, Lethe and the warm arms of mother are all waiting for you. People who have used heroin tell me Halcion is better than heroin for making bad thoughts simply disappear."


http://www.eye.net/eye/issue/issue_01.30.92/news/med0130.htm


Gotta go...please add your Google finds.




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tinanator Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-29-04 08:47 AM
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21. thanks for putting this in front of me
Ive known of it since Carol Simpson admitted and questioned if it was the media's job to report it way back when.
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DemWitch Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-29-04 08:14 AM
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16. first of all...
this administration seems to be full of potty mouths :)

Second... If Shrubya is on anti-depressants, he should be forthright about it. Millions of Americans have depression/anxiety issues that have been helped enormously by the new family of anti-depressants out there. Myself included.

BUT... I would be screaming at the top of my lungs... We gotta nutjob in power, get him the hell outta there.

I wonder if he has a prescription plan?
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buycitgo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-29-04 08:17 AM
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18. not buying this story at all
poorly written

Nixon "wondered the halls"?????

all unattributed sources, contradictory assertions, ie that Dr. Frank could confirm certain allegations, when he was in NO position to do so

I'd love to believe this story, but, judging from past stories, this could just as well be an inoculation/discredit the truth when it comes out story

not buying
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seabeyond Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-29-04 08:20 AM
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19. this capitol hill blue came out a while ago with a similar
article that bush was losing it ect. this is just feeling like one of those mass emails the repugs send out and everyone see over and over and over. the other article kept popping up

has it ever been snooped, has this been totally debunked.
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Auntie Bush Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-29-04 09:15 AM
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23. There is a long article and forum discussion on
regarding Bush, Cheney and Powell on Ambien. Many posted their personal experiences with Ambien. It was truly scary to think most of our administration is on this drug and in charge of the nuclear button. What happens if there is an emergency in the middle of the night and quick and rememborable responses are required? If you can't handle the job without medication...get out of the kitchen. This is :scare:

Someone emailed me the the Smirking Chimp information because they knew I took Ambien and they were so worried because it was so awful. All I remember...if someone wants it is it was posted sometime this past winter. I can tell you about many experiences with Ambien...but not time now.

NOW...get Bush the f*** out of the White House. That man brings out the worst of me because I don't normally talk like that. I bet he does the same for the rest of America.
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Heyo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-29-04 10:53 AM
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25. I took Ambien before.....
... In all honesty.... it's sweeeeeeet...

Makes you nice and relaxed before you go to sleep... maybe like Valium or Xanax but much milder....

Heyo
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TWiley Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-29-04 11:00 AM
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26. He does seem Manic - Depressive.
But, I have no other qualifications to back my opinion
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