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whistle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-29-04 11:20 AM
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NYT Editorial Suggests Florida Vote Will be Worse than 2000...
...My comment is this, why would anything be different since no changes for improving the situation have been initiated. Also, because the original players in the 2000 election were never made accountable for their criminal actions and went completely unpunished, they would be expected to be even bolder this time around. The electronic voting machines throughout Florida need to be impounded by the courts and sealed up until after the November election. Then, an independent inspection appointed by a federal agency needs to examine all of Florida's voting equipment and person's in charge and criminal charges need to be made against all wrong doers including Jeb Bush, Glenda Hood, Catherine Harris and any other persons involved in this blatant act to disenfranchise the voters of Florida. Here's the NYT article from today:



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July 29, 2004
Florida's Bad Record on Voting Records

illions of Florida voters will cast ballots this November on electronic voting machines that do not produce paper records. State election officials have insisted that the machines have safeguards to ensure that votes are accurately recorded and counted, including a computerized audit function. Recently, however, Miami-Dade County officials admitted that almost all of the audit records from a disputed 2002 primary had been accidentally destroyed. This is disturbing news and casts serious doubt on Florida's ability to run a fair election this fall.

Two years after Florida's notorious presidential vote in 2000, the state held a gubernatorial primary in which Janet Reno lost by 4,794 votes. There were widespread problems with electronic voting and suspicious delays for a final count. When the Miami-Dade Election Reform Coalition requested the audit data from that election, officials told it that almost all of the data had been lost in two computer crashes last year. This spring, the audit function malfunctioned in some electronic voting machines.

Voters cannot be expected to trust computerized voting machines with such serious flaws. Nor should they have to tolerate public officials who withhold critical information until they are asked the right question, or forced to tell the truth by a court. Voters are learning of the loss of audit data in Florida only now because a citizens' group fought to get the information. Similarly, Florida election officials fought the release of their list of felons to be purged from voting rolls this year. When a court made the list public, it was found to be so riddled with errors that the state was forced to scrap it.

Florida's secretary of state, Glenda Hood, has insisted that the voting technology is thoroughly reliable and that the critics are simply stirring up trouble. Ms. Hood should drop this head-in-the-sand approach and quickly provide the protections the voters need. The most urgent would be a review by a team that includes independent computer experts. Florida's election system was a national disgrace in 2000, and it is well on its way to becoming one again.
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lovedems Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-29-04 11:32 AM
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1. I submit it isn't the election system that was/is a national disgrace
it the republican leaders of the state that are a national disgrace.
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GOPFighter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-29-04 11:39 AM
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2. Link?
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LiviaOlivia Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-29-04 12:05 PM
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8. link to NYT editorial
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fishnfla Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-29-04 11:43 AM
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3. Vote Absentee
make it count
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realFedUp Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-29-04 11:45 AM
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4. If I didn't believe they'd throw those away....
I'd encourage anyone in every state to vote
absentee.
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GiovanniC Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-29-04 11:46 AM
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5. NBC NEWS: "Florida Shaping Up To Be The Next Florida"
Last night.

I heard it.

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Doctor_J Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-29-04 11:50 AM
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6. i've written off florida.
that state has turned into a banana republic. democracy is dead down there. I am just hoping that the other swing states have honest elections.
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rumguy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-29-04 12:09 PM
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9. yikes
that's a bleak assesment - but you may be right.
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never_get_over_it Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-29-04 11:56 AM
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7. You know in 2000
I believed that FL was so Cheneyed up that they should not be able to participate in the electoral college and wreck it for the rest of us. I believe that today - if these idiots can't get this right why should they screw it up for the rest of the country and I will be voting in FL this year - or so I hope. But you know Gore only needed one other state and then FL would have been a moot point. So say Kerry gets NH and all the states that Gore got - Florida can go Cheney themselves. There are several states that Bush got in 2000 that might just go to Kerry this time.
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