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Keirsey Donating Member (508 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-29-04 01:37 PM
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White House May Be Planning Nationwide Program to Diagnose, Drug Kids
Jun 27 - A new plan by the Bush administration to test the nation's public school population for mental disorders and treat them with controversial drugs has raised an alarm among some medical science watchdogs and members of the mental health community.

The White House is expected to announce a mental health and disability initiative that recommends the screening and treatment of the country’s K-12 students. The plan is based on a Texas program a government whistleblower has called "a Trojan horse" for pharmaceutical companies.

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The NFI plan "doesn't have the Orwellian goal of drugging the populace for a political purpose; it's the Orwellian goal of drugging the populace for an economic purpose." -- Allen Jones, whistleblower


http://newstandardnews.net/content/?action=show_item&itemid=614




Now this...

Saturday, May 29, 2004

Eli Lilly, Zyprexa, & the Bush Family - The diseasing of our malaise


A sample of those who have been on the Eli Lilly payroll includes:

* Former President George Herbert Walker Bush (one-time member of the Eli Lilly board of directors)
* Former CEO of Enron, Ken Lay (one-time member of the Eli Lilly board of directors)
* George W. Bush’s former director of Management and Budget, Mitch Daniels (a former Eli Lilly vice president)
* George W. Bush’s Homeland Security Advisory Council member, Sidney Taurel (current CEO of Eli Lilly)

And there is this Tidbit:

Alexander Cockburn, in both the Nation and the New Statesman, was one of the first to connect the dots between the Bush family and Eli Lilly. After George Herbert Walker Bush left his CIA director post in 1977 and before becoming vice president under Ronald Reagan in 1980, he was on Eli Lilly’s board of directors. As vice president, Bush failed to disclose his Lilly stock and lobbied hard on behalf of Big Pharma—especially Eli Lilly. For example, Bush sought special tax breaks from the IRS for Lilly and other pharmaceutical corporations that were manufacturing in Puerto Rico.

Cockburn also reported on Mitch Daniels, then a vice president at Eli Lilly, who in 1991 co-chaired a fundraiser that collected $600,000 for the Bush-Quayle campaign. This is the same Mitch Daniels who in 2001 became George W. Bush’s Director of Management and Budget. In June 2003, soon after Daniels departed from that job, he ran for governor of Indiana (home to Eli Lilly headquarters).



http://psychwatch.blogspot.com/2004/05/eli-lilly-zyprexa-bush-family.html

More here:

http://zmagsite.zmag.org/May2004/levinepr0504.


Anything to add?








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Kanary Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-29-04 01:41 PM
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1. Illinios recently passed legislation for this
"There will be no exceptions".

So, it's already happening.

Kanary
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GreenPartyVoter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-29-04 01:43 PM
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2. Un-Frigging-real
I'll be darned if they are gonna forces meds down MY kids' throats here in Maine.

But I am worried, if I try to toss the pills away, will they figure out what I have been up to when they check their blood? And can they take my kids away from me for that?

All too scary!
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Kanary Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-29-04 01:50 PM
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7. I'd say your best bet is not trying to fight it individually
after it happens.

My suggestion would be to print out as much of this info as you can find, start by sharing it with friends in Maine, then joining forces with others to raise awareness with as many people as possible.

Get a posse together to write letters, LTTEs, speak wherever and whenever you can, and leave info in likely places (drs offices).

Individually, you're sunk, in my estimation.

En masse, you may be able to effect enough groundswelll of protest to forestall the damned thing.

If it happens nationally, well, we're ALL screwed, because they will keep broadening this until it includes everyone.

BTW, that bill in Illinois included pregnant women in their witchhunt.

Cheered, now?
:scared:

This country is going down the tubes really fast, and, unfortunately, we have more work to do than just getting Kerry elected.

Kanary

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gatlingforme Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-29-04 01:53 PM
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8. do you remember the legislation # on that>
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Kanary Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-29-04 01:57 PM
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9. no, there was a thread here on DU about it
If the search function is operating now, you should be able to find it.

I'll look, but I don't think I bookmarked it.......

:(

Kanary
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Kanary Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-29-04 02:04 PM
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10. I decided to be a really good neighbor, and google it for you,
given that the DU search function is disabled now.

http://www.libertypost.org/cgi-bin/readart.cgi?ArtNum=58370 was the first to come up. I just glanced over it, and it's confusing..... says that it passed last year, but also says they are conducting hearings on it now. What I remember from the DU thread was that it recently passed.

So, I looked it up...... would be nice to hear a reply to this. :)

Kanary
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gatlingforme Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-29-04 02:33 PM
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14. Thanks for the link, I think it is a bit confusing too. I have not
heard anything on this at all. It's scary to think it's compulsory let alone a protfolio following you around for the rest of your life. I will be looking into this. Thanks. Also, if I have not responded to your posts in the past it is because I only have a 24hr look up of my recent posts after that I can't look it up unless I bookmark it. Thanks for the link!!!
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gatlingforme Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-29-04 02:41 PM
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16. Here is the bill in the house as it stands now:
Statutes Amended In Order of Appearance
New Act
30 ILCS 105/5.595 new
305 ILCS 5/5-5.23 new
http://www.legis.state.il.us/legislation/billstatus.asp?DocNum=2900&GAID=3&DocTypeID=HB&LegID=5452&SessionID=3

Synopsis As Introduced
Creates the Children's Mental Health Act of 2003 and amends the State Finance Act and the Illinois Public Aid Code. Requires the development of a Children's Mental Health Plan containing short-term and long-term recommendations to provide comprehensive, coordinated mental health prevention, early intervention, and treatment services for children from birth through age 18. Sets forth features that must be included in the plan. Creates the Children's Mental Health Council, composed of representatives of State government and representatives of various advocacy organizations, to submit a preliminary plan to the Governor on September 30, 2004 and a final plan on June 30, 2005. Imposes certain duties on the Office of Mental Health within the Department of Human Services, the State Board of Education, and school districts. Creates the Children's Mental Health Fund as a special fund in the State treasury, to be used for appropriations to the Department of Human Services for mental health prevention, early intervention, and treatment services for children from birth through age 18. Under the Medicaid program, requires the Department of Public Aid to provide for the screening and assessment of a child before a Medicaid-funded admission to an inpatient hospital for psychiatric services. Effective immediately.

Senate Committee Amendment No. 1
Changes the name of the Children's Mental Health Council to the Children's Mental Health Partnership. Adds representatives of community mental health authorities to the membership of the Partnership. Provides that the Department of Public Aid shall work jointly with the Department of Human Services to implement amendatory provisions concerning children's mental health services under the Medicaid program.
(snip) see more link top page
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Kanary Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-29-04 02:49 PM
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18. Thanks for the followup!
Boy, I feel ever so much better to know that it's now called a "Partnership", rather than a "Council". Doesn't it ease your mind, too? :eyes:

In the other post, I wasn't directing my comment about reply to you, personally. I just get discouraged when I go to the effort, especially when I look up info, and there is hardly ever a reply. Sometimes I think "why bother", so I was just voicing that..... it wasn't directed at anyone in particular.

Thanks again for this info! :hi:

Kanary
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Keirsey Donating Member (508 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-29-04 01:43 PM
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3. President's Homeland Security Advisory Council appointments
For Immediate Release
Office of the Press Secretary
June 11, 2002

Appointments
President Bush to Appoint the Following Individuals to Serve as Members of the President's Homeland Security Advisory Council



President George W. Bush today announced his appointment of the following individuals to serve as Members of the President's Homeland Security Advisory Council.

President Bush created the Homeland Security Advisory Council by Executive Order on March 19, 2002. The purpose of the Council is to provide the President with advice on homeland security matters from experts representing state and local government, the private sector, public policy experts and the non-profit sector.

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Sidney Taurel of Indiana is the Chairman, President and CEO of Eli Lilly and Company. He joined the Lilly subsidiary Eli Lilly International Corporation in 1971, and has held various positions Brazil, France, Easter Europe and London. In 1986, he became President of Eli Lilly International Corporation and then Executive Vice President of the Pharmaceutical Division in 1991.


http://www.whitehouse.gov/news/releases/2002/06/20020611-6.html

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GreenPartyVoter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-29-04 01:47 PM
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5. Yee-ha! Jest shove that thar fox right in the henhouse!!
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Keirsey Donating Member (508 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-29-04 01:48 PM
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6. Eli Lilly products

Neuroscience
Prozac® (fluoxetine hydrochloride)
Strattera® (atomoxetine hydrochloride)*
Symbyax™ (olanzapine and fluoxetine hydrochloride)
Zyprexa® (olanzapine)


http://www.lilly.com/products/index.html


*ADHD/ADD

http://www.strattera.com/index.jsp


Wonder how many more kids will be "diagnosed" under the New Freedom Initiative?

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jimshoes Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-29-04 01:46 PM
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4. Him first
nt
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sinkingfeeling Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-29-04 02:05 PM
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11. Where are the liberty loving people of this country?
Wasn't it the GOP that claimed they want the federal government out of their lives? When y'all get to Ireland, look me up.
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rucky Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-29-04 02:09 PM
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12. Don't piss off the parents
they are making a horrible mistake.
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liberalmuse Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-29-04 02:25 PM
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13. I don't think so!
It's all about the profits, and very little to do with children's health.

I'm not against anti-depressants. I went on a 3-month cycle and it worked wonders to help kick start my serotonin production levels. However, you just don't give that shit to kids! The first two weeks on it was hell, and this was in low doses. I only did a 3-month cycle, then slowly weened myself off because I started disassociating more and more after about 12 weeks on the stuff, as if my serotonin levels were too high. It's done wonders in helping me deal with stress, though, but I had to do my part, too. The drugs helped me step back a bit and observe myself and my reactions to the environment.

The unfortunate thing is, I know of no one who has started a 'short-cycle' of anti-depressants who isn't still on them years later. They need larger doses, or different, stronger meds, and yet they're still depressed and anxious. I think anti-depressants should only be taken under careful, frequent supervision of a physician. Most doctors are too busy to adequately monitor their patients. IMHO, these drugs definitely should not be given to anyone who is not an bonafide adult, except in the rarest circumstances.
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PA Democrat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-29-04 02:37 PM
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15. Many of the drugs that are routinely prescribed
for psychological conditions, are not FDA approved for use in children . Children do not metabolize drugs in the same fashion as do adults, so parent should be cautious.

I have a child with autism and have been routinely told by school administrators that I should medicate my child. My typical response is to ask them when they received their medical license, and then ask them which drug has been FDA approved for the treatment of autism in children (there are NONE).

There are many cases where medications may be appropriate or even absolutely necessary, but in my experience many behavioral problems in kids can be solved with a well-implemented positive behavioral plan and classroom and curriculum modifications.
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Kanary Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-29-04 02:44 PM
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17. *LOVE* your response to the administrators........
who obviously haven't a clue!

The answer to EVERYTHING in this danged society, now, is DRUGS, and EVERYONE should give this more real thought.

Obviously, profit is a big driving force.

We've been suckered.

Kanary
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Kanary Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-29-04 02:52 PM
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19. Some background on the focus on Drugs
Edited on Thu Jul-29-04 02:53 PM by Kanary
Many years ago, I knew a shrink who told me he remembered clearly when this move to drugs began, because he was there.

He said it was during a convention of psychiatrists, and the big topic was worry about the psychiatric social workers and psychologists eating into their business, mainly because they could charge less than the shrinks.

To make a long story short, the decision was made to emphasize the use of drugs (I'm sure this decision was helped along by the pharmas), because the shrinks are the only ones who can prescribe, so their status would be preserved, and their income level would be preserved, as the psychologists and social workers would have to rely on the shrinks for the prescriptions.

Isn't that convenient?

Kanary
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Hubert Flottz Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-29-04 03:10 PM
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20. Family Bush, always looking out for the born and the unborn!
Poppy Bush/Eugenics/Nazi doctor story:


Bush and Draper

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"The experiment worked as follows. "All children enrolled in the school district of Winston-Salem, N.C., were given a special "intelligence test." Those children who scored below a certain arbitrary low mark were then cut open and surgically sterilized."

We quote now from the official story of the project: "In Winston-Salem and in Orange County, North Carolina, the field committee had participated in testing projects to identify school age children who should be considered for sterilization. The project in Orange County was conducted by the University of North Carolina and was financed by a 'Mr. Hanes,' a friend of Clarence Gamble and supporter of the field work project in North Carolina. The Winston-Salem project was also financed by Hanes. <"Hanes" was underwear mogul James Gordon Hanes, a trustee of Bowman Gray Medical School and treasurer of Alice Gray's group>....

"The medical school had a long history of interest in eugenics and had compiled extensive histories of families carrying inheritable disease. In 1946, Dr. C. Nash Herndon ... made a statement to the press on the use of sterilization to prevent the spread of inheritable diseases....

"The first step after giving the mental tests to grade school children was to interpret and make public the results. In Orange County the results indicated that three percent of the school age children were either insane or feebleminded.... the field committee hired a social worker to review each case ... and to present any cases in which sterilization was indicated to the State Eugenics Board, which under North Carolina law had the authority to order sterilization...." MUCH MORE..................

http://www.hiddenmysteries.com/freebook/bush/bush3.html

This is the shit people need to know about! Several of these kids died from this horrid mistreatment! The BUSH FAMILY IS EVIL to the core!
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JHB Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-29-04 03:16 PM
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21. FWEET! Hey all you 'Militia' guys! Notice the Black Helicopters?
NOW is the time to start balking at "jackbooted thugs".
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