Just heard this on CNN...Kerry told the 4th estate...soon you will be out

[Gin]

of here...(or something like that) and Wolf said..I guess we will be gone soon. Wonder if that was a slam or just meant they will be finsihed with the convention?

What does that mean? is the press the 4th estate?

[w13rd0]

1. Yes, the press if the 4th estate...

...and if he said, "soon your reign will be over", I'm standing ovating, or giving an ovation, or whatever...

[Gin]

2. DUPE...check this thread...

faithnotgreed (517 posts) has it right.

[lectrobyte]

3. Yes, the press is the 4th estate. I think they are talking about the

convention winding up, but I am not sure, not having seen the conversation in question.

[Feanorcurufinwe]

4. "something like that" ???

arrggghhh - what was said?

In order to know what 'it' means, we have to know what 'it' is.

[jean]

9. here - Bertha Venation reported on this earlier

here:

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_topic&forum=104&topic_id=2102182

[Skidmore]

5. Maybe he just meant they'll be leaving Boston...

for the next gig?

[ewagner]

6. From Wikipedia

In Carlyle's On Heroes and Hero Worship (1841), he writes, "... does not... the parliamentary debate go on... in a far more comprehensive way, out of Parliament altogether? Burke said that there were three Estates in Parliament, but in the Reporters Gallery yonder, there sat a fourth Estate more important far than they all." <1> (http://www.victorianweb.org/authors/carlyle/hero5.html)

This was not Carlyle's first use of the term. If, indeed, Burke did make the statement Carlyle attributes to him, Burke's remark may have been in the back of Carlyle's mind when he wrote in his French Revolution (1837) "A Fourth Estate, of Able Editors, springs up." <2>

[PurityOfEssence]

8. It's a term from the French Revolution

The Estates Generale (the showpiece legislature of the French Empire, long dissolved, but revived as a sop to the reformers to stave off insurrection) was comprised of three groups: the Aristocracy (1st) , the Clergy (2nd) and the monied commoners (3rd); some wag pointed out that the journalists in the galleries who watched the legislature in operation were, in effect, the Fourth Estate. It would be interesting to note who coined the term, but it most certainly wasn't Burke, even though he was a contemporary and outspoken commentator on the Revolution.

[MaineDem]

7. He was joking around during the sound check

They asked him to say something so he did.

"Soon your reign will be over..."

It was a lighthearted moment but I figured the whores-I mean media- would make something out of it.

[MoonRiver]

10. It means Democrats are taking NO MORE SHIT from you media whores.

GOOOOOOOO KERRY!!!! :kick: