Nixon vs. Bush II: Who is worse?

[WI_DEM]

[Endangered Specie]

1. Nixon Resigned. advantage: Nixon

2. John Dean thinks Bush II is worse

and he had some personal experience with Nixon.

[Burma Jones]

3. Nixon was more liberal than Clinton

Nice article:

http://www.ashbrook.org/publicat/dialogue/hayward.html

[tom_paine]

4. Bunnypants makes one long for the gentle, honest, decency of Nixon

[wryter2000]

5. No contest

Nixon didn't approach the evil of Bush II.

[H2O Man]

6. Not even close......

as terrible as Nixon was, it's possible to list several good things his administration accomplished, as well as a few "okay" things. There were, of course, several very bad things.

Bush, on the other hand, is entirely bad. Nothing good has come from this administration. Nothing "okay." Pure evil.

[Zynx]

11. Other than the occasional liberal program, I can't think of anything Nixon

did well. Selling Taiwan for China during an election year was morally putrid. Anyone who would deal with Mao Zedong is a piece of shit. Mao was one of the most devastating tyrants who has ever lived. I need not mention that Nixon killed far more people than Bush with 600,000 in Cambodia alone.

[H2O Man]

17. Nixon did more for

traditional Native Americans than any other president. Thus, I must admit that I am not entirely objective. But I'll say this: it wasn't a one-time thing. He was consistent in his support of the rights of Indian people to practice their religious beliefs. Indian history is a significant part of this county's history. (And obviously, Indian history in and of itself is far, far more than the interaction with European-Americans.)

[Zynx]

18. To be frank, I care more about the fact that he killed 600,000 Cambodians

That is the most useless slaughter a president has ever ordered.

[H2O Man]

22. That's fine.

I had been responding to the original question, regarding bush v nixon; then to your comment about nixon not doing anything significant. I certainly did not imply that any of his actions canceled out the evil of nixon's south-east Asian policies. At the same time, because I have an interest in history, I enjoy having a fuller understanding of nixon's good and bad side, without needing to inflate or deflate anything.

[doctorbombeigh]

20. I think Mr. Nixon signed the Clean Air Act - and/or Water or whatever...

OSHA, as well. There was a lot of pressure on him to do certain "good" things, and he did them. He was old-school Republican, still a Republican with whom one did not agree, but nothing like the neo-cons. Certainly, Nixon never had the ability to bend Congress to his whim, the way BushII does. Congress would have eaten him alive - eventually, of course, they did.

Imo, the combination of BushII's extremism and his complete control of the Congress have made him worse for the country and far more dangerous than Nixon. At least Nixon knew he wasn't SUPPOSED to be acting that way and tried like hell to hide it. The Bush regime, like Nixon's, is very focussed on secrecy, but unlike Nixon's they don't think they really have to hide what they are doing. They hide it in plain sight. I blame Ronald Reagan for this, but that's another rant.

It is worth noting that BushII brought in a lot of re-treads from the Nixon administration. Rumsfeld springs to mind, as does the Vampire LeCheney. Is it really any surprise that the people who brought us Vietnam are now bringing us Iraq? These people have to get the boot this November.

[Bush was AWOL]

7. Bush is by far worse

Nixon didn't destroy blue collar workers and the middle class like Reagan and Bush.

[WI_DEM]

8. who thought I would be looking back on the days of Dick Nixon

with nosalgia.

[bigwillq]

9. The second Shrub

I wansn't born when Nixon was in office but from what I heard and read, I think Shrub is by far worse.

My parents, who are DEMS, even voted for Nixon. At that time, they said they thought Nixon was the right man for the job.

Who knows, maybe they were just high and pulled the wrong lever!

[ParisFrance]

10. Nixon ran a better administration while commiting crimes to be reelected

CREEP,plumbers, but Bush has run the worst adminsistration is history.

[sidwill]

12. The horibly sad part is

Bush makes Nixon look like a friggin god!

[HysteryDiagnosis]

13. But they consider (this admin)

themselves fair and balanced.... right? heh heh....

[tom_paine]

23. And his criminals do FAR WORSE. Further there is no Honest Law Enforcemen

t apparatus to bust them.

None. Imperial Amerika, as far as the Upper Echelon Imperials go (not all these low-level Bushevik Child Molestors who keep getting busted) is as lawless and corrupt as the Old Soviet Union.

Eventually, this will "trickle down" to us once they have consolidated their Unchecked Power.

[Zynx]

14. Nixon killed a lot more people.

Bush has killed a lot of people, but it doesn't hold anything to Richard Nixon. Nixon killed 600,000 innocent civillians in Cambodia alone and Lord knows how many others in Laos and Vietnam. He also sold out to Maoist China which was a dispicable action and couped the democratic government of Salvador Allende in Chile replacing it with Pinochet. Sure Nixon passed some liberal economic legislation here and there, but he also appointed Rhenquist to the Supreme Court among others. Let's not forget that while Bush has been engaged in corruption, he still hasn't gotten caught at it yet and thus Nixon stained the White House far more.

[Bush was AWOL]

16. Who says Bush is done killing

If he wins I fear for what his foreign policy will look like in a second term considering he could have a Republican house and senate and not face reelection. Very scary thought.

[Zynx]

19. Oh, he might become a bigger murderer, but he's not there yet.

[Mayberry Machiavelli]

15. Easily Bush II because he has the power of the media.

Nixon was much more intelligent but couldn't get away with a tenth of what shrubya has because the media would actually question him.

If the eras were reversed, shrubya probably would never have been elected and certainly would not achieve re "election." Who knows what the paranoid Nixon would have done with a post 9/11 compliant America and media.

[Jacobin]

21. It's not even close

Nixon was more liberal than Kerry. Hard to believe, no? I lived through it. He was a lying prick who used his power to intimiate and bully his political opponents, he lied about a "secret plan" to end Viet-Nam and then escalated it, but by damn he didn't do 1/10 the damage that Smirky has done in 3 short years.

[George_Bonanza]

24. I must concur with Zynx

When casualties in Iraq approach 600 000, and when Bush overthrows an elected government, then he's worse than Nixon. Nixon was also a red-baiter, so that cancels out whatever liberal (actually liberal economics would be like free trade, so conservative economics?) side of economics he was on.