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Raven Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-29-04 05:33 PM
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I want Kerry's speech to be the oration of the century and it won't be.
Bushwhacked again!!! If this man can get up before that crowd and make some sense, I say he gets an A. What he does in the debates and on the stump during the next 3 months will make the difference. The man is competent...he is not a rock star! We need competence, not Elvis.
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NMDemDist2 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-29-04 05:34 PM
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1. pretty much,,,,, n/t
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aquart Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-29-04 05:38 PM
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2. Solid. Trustworthy. Dependable.
Can you believe him? In a crisis, will he hide or go to work? We KNOW we can't believe Bush. We KNOW that Bush is useless in a crisis.

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jmowreader Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-29-04 06:50 PM
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22. He's been in a crisis before. We know how he reacts.
He turns the boat around, reaches into the Mekong River, and fishes the SF guy out of the water.
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redqueen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-29-04 05:39 PM
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3. Molly Ivins says we need Elvis
it's why she supported Dean in the primaries
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JohnKleeb Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-29-04 05:40 PM
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4. By elvis does that mean charismatic speaker?
if I would support by charisma, I'd have to support Edwards if that would be my game.
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redqueen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-29-04 05:46 PM
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6. Yeah that 'Elvis' quality
Molly's been around for a while. So many people are so shallow now... I don't want to believe it... keep thinking that with a strong enough message, that will be enough.

:shrug:
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tom_paine Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-29-04 05:50 PM
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8. Believe it. The Imperial Subjects of Amerika have more in common with
1936 Germans than they do with the brave men and women of the Old American Republic who stopped them.
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JohnKleeb Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-29-04 06:16 PM
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13. I dont get that
very ignorant thing to do.
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gardenista Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-29-04 05:45 PM
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5. SCREW the media and their set-up for failure
Kerry will give the speech of an intelligent, wise, experienced, thoughtful, courageous war hero. In other words, the ANTI-BUSH.

I can't wait to hear what he has to say, and I refuse to be manipulated by our lame-ass so-called media. Most of them have already prepared their remarks. Pathetic.

Let's get behind Kerry and really listen to what he has to say. I am ready to follow him all the way.

Sorry, Mollie, Elvis has left the building.
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Greenbeard Donating Member (156 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-29-04 05:48 PM
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7. We haven't even heard it yet
For all we know he took a cue from Obama and this speach will wake America up. Game over. Go Home Bush. We are moving forward to a better place.

We can always hope :)
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nostamj Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-29-04 06:12 PM
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9. ELVIS!!! (by way of Mark Streeter)
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Tatiana Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-29-04 06:27 PM
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17. LMFAO!!!!!!! n/t
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Cocoa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-29-04 06:14 PM
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10. my expectations are low
I think he's good in interviews, he's got a lot to say, but I've never been impressed by any of his speeches.

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KT2000 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-29-04 06:15 PM
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11. RW set-up redeux
They are repeating their mantra from 2000 already:

Set the expectation for Kerry so high at the convention he can only disappoint.

Set up Kerry as the natural debater for the debates so that if * doesn't drool he wins!
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Leilani Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-29-04 06:15 PM
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12. I do not need the speech of the century...
What I need is honesty...& not politically nuanced, poll-driven soundbites.

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Greenbeard Donating Member (156 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-29-04 06:19 PM
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14. Exactly
Been waiting a long time for a little honesty
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dissention Donating Member (95 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-29-04 06:20 PM
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15. He needs to sacrifice his presidential salary
if he wants a big bounce. If he promised to donate all of his salary for the next four years, he'd be a shoe-in for our next president.
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Raven Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-29-04 06:25 PM
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16. Welcome to Du...but you are wrong.
They both could give up the salary and the race would still be on. People don't care about the President's salary...they care about their own. :-)
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Feanorcurufinwe Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-29-04 06:29 PM
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18. Interesting.
I don't think what you said has any basis in reality, but I find it interesting that you said it.


If he promised to donate all of his salary for the next four years, he'd be a shoe-in for our next president.

What if both he and Bush promised to donate all of his salary for the next four years? What then? What if Bush promised to donate all of his salary for the next four years and Kerry didn't? What then? lol


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dissention Donating Member (95 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-29-04 06:47 PM
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21. I think
that if Kerry were to beat him to it, he'd be the one to come out smelling like a rose. Bush would look too desperate if he jumped on the bandwagon after the fact. ;)

He doesn't need to do it to secure our votes, but it could do nothing but help him with the undecided voters.
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KT2000 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-29-04 06:43 PM
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20. Good Idea!
I am beginning to think that the one true value of America is to get "the good deal, or bargain." That is the one thing around which this country will unite!

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Raven Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-29-04 06:42 PM
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19. Listen, if I were John Kerry
I would go out there and say...Hello, I'm John Kerry. I am 60 years old. I was born in ____. My parents were ____. I grew up in ____. I volunteered for Vietnam and spent 2 years there. I killed people. It has changed me. I would not go to war on a whim. I would only go to war if I absolutely had to. I have seen American boys die and I know first had what their mothers and fathers feel and have to deal with. Today, they have to deal with not getting the truth from our government.

I have not flip flopped during my career in the Senate. I have been thoughtful, careful with the peoples' trust. I have asked questions...questioned my own judgment time and time again because we are all fallable and we need to come to decisions carefully and deliberately and we need to have the capacity to admit that we are wrong...when we are wrong. Otherwise we will just perpetrate wrong thinking and hubris over and over.

I ask the American people this...are you better off today? Do you feel safer? What do you think about the fact that this building has been effectively locked down...snipers on the roof tonight. The Democrtic Party didi not ask for this...the Bush government demanded it.

I ask the American people...how do you feel about paying 4$ for milk and 2$ for gas so that you can feed your child and get him or her to day care so that you can get to your second or third job to make ends meet? How do you feel about saving for the future and funding a college education for your kids? The sad fact is that these wonderful things are simply beyond most Americans. How have we fallen so far!?

We have fallen so far because, in just a short four years the agenda of the people has been replaced by the agenda of the few and the rich. Simple as that, simple as that. If you can show me one thing in your live that is better, that can be influence by government, I'll eat these words.

Well, that's my speech. :-)
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Lisa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-29-04 06:55 PM
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23. John Kerry gets up to speak and ...
... he's NOT trailing a piece of toilet paper on his shoe.

If he reads the speech competently, and doesn't make inappropriate faces at the audience or drop in tasteless jokes and not-so-veiled threats -- he'd be a definite improvement over the current job holder.

Good enough for me!


But seriously -- if I want to be dazzled, I'll rent a Hollywood movie with professionally-trained performers, award-winning writers and directors, and big-bucks special effects. I really don't see the point of expecting a public official to start tap-dancing like Christopher Walken!

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Raven Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-29-04 06:57 PM
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24. Right! I think he should address this head on.
I doubt he will, but I think he should.
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