Democratic Underground Latest Greatest Lobby Journals Search Options Help Login
Google

Is anyone else sick of hearing about "VALUES"?

Printer-friendly format Printer-friendly format
Printer-friendly format Email this thread to a friend
Printer-friendly format Bookmark this thread
This topic is archived.
Home » Discuss » Archives » General Discussion (Through 2005) Donate to DU
 
charlyvi Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-29-04 07:23 PM
Original message
Is anyone else sick of hearing about "VALUES"?
I don't think I'm morally corrupt or anything, but I'm getting really sick of hearing the word "VALUES".

ARGHGHGHGHGHGH!!!!!
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
progressivebydesign Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-29-04 07:25 PM
Response to Original message
1. No.. I'm not sick of it.. I realize why theyr'e pushing it..
.. they are trying to diffuse the Republican stranglehold on "values". We're psyching them out..
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
Proud2BAmurkin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-29-04 07:25 PM
Response to Original message
2. No because values go beyond what Repukes say they are (sex)
Every DUer shares certain values. But I agree, getting sick of both parties posturing about Repukes' idea of "values" (a hypocritical obsession with eliminating sex)
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
KittyWampus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-29-04 07:26 PM
Response to Original message
3. Nope! Got To Pound It Into America's Heads
and after all, that is what we're fighting for... VALUES such as Liberty, Democracy, Rule of Law, The Common Good.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
Moonbeam_Starlight Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-29-04 07:26 PM
Response to Original message
4. Yeah it's such a non-issue
it's one of those feel-good words people love to hear that means NOTHING. Zip.

Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
Feanorcurufinwe Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-29-04 07:27 PM
Response to Original message
5. If you are easily annoyed by having things repeated over and over
listening to a lot of political speeches in a short time might not be a good idea.

Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
charlyvi Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-29-04 07:32 PM
Response to Reply #5
7. I'm not easily annoyed, honestly.....
But EVERY single speech mentions values. EVERY speech. For the past three months. Mainstream values, liberal values, conservative values, etc. The word has become meaningless.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
ayeshahaqqiqa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-29-04 07:29 PM
Response to Original message
6. One value we should stress is
HONESTY. I'm sick of the lies from Shrubco.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
Moonbeam_Starlight Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-29-04 07:33 PM
Response to Reply #6
8. Yeah
there you go. Get more SPECIFIC about it. Values is such a vague, general word. We know what it means, but tell me more, go deeper.

Specifics.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
Dob Bole Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-29-04 07:38 PM
Response to Reply #8
9. Specific is bad....
This is the Democratic Party, after all. We are diverse, and we agree on nothing. Leaving values vague and not addressing the divisive hot-button issues is probably a good idea.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
charlyvi Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-29-04 07:46 PM
Response to Reply #9
10. Maybe that's why I'm so sick of hearing the word.
My values shouldn't have to be your values; I should respect your values, not necessarilty emulate them. That must be it.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
Walt Starr Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-29-04 07:50 PM
Response to Original message
11. Relax, have a nice wedgie
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
Cleita Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-29-04 08:19 PM
Response to Original message
12. Funny how they couch their ethics in a term that actually
means the degree acheived in material wealth or value. It should speak volumes of what is important to them, money. When I was in Catholic school we were taught in terms of sin if we did bad things or goodness and good works if we lived according to what we knew to be right. There were the spiritual and corporal works of mercy as guidelines for living a Christian life. Values were never mentioned. I just thought I would mention this.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
enki23 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-29-04 08:27 PM
Response to Reply #12
13. now *there* is some psychobabble. and inaccrate
"values" is a completely relevent word in this political campaign, and important term in the discussion of ethics and ethical issues. there is no good replacement.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
Cleita Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-29-04 08:35 PM
Response to Reply #13
14. Whatever, I'm not a language expert. But the next time you
make out your will see what the word value really means. I don't think it has any relevancy to how people lead good and kind lives with empathy and charity for one another. All it means to me is a moral eliteness of holier than thou.

Every time some Repub Senator's wife gets up and spouts about family values, all she's saying to me is that she's raising her kids better with all the privileges of wealth than the working mother who is her maid.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
Swamp Rat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-29-04 08:40 PM
Response to Reply #14
15. I have to agree with you... "valyooz"
This word, in a moral context, means absolutely NOTHING to me. If used as a verb, it tends to make sense in ANY context... to me.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
DU AdBot (1000+ posts) Click to send private message to this author Click to view 
this author's profile Click to add 
this author to your buddy list Click to add 
this author to your Ignore list Wed Apr 24th 2024, 10:55 PM
Response to Original message
Advertisements [?]
 Top

Home » Discuss » Archives » General Discussion (Through 2005) Donate to DU

Powered by DCForum+ Version 1.1 Copyright 1997-2002 DCScripts.com
Software has been extensively modified by the DU administrators


Important Notices: By participating on this discussion board, visitors agree to abide by the rules outlined on our Rules page. Messages posted on the Democratic Underground Discussion Forums are the opinions of the individuals who post them, and do not necessarily represent the opinions of Democratic Underground, LLC.

Home  |  Discussion Forums  |  Journals |  Store  |  Donate

About DU  |  Contact Us  |  Privacy Policy

Got a message for Democratic Underground? Click here to send us a message.

© 2001 - 2011 Democratic Underground, LLC