Anyone else think Lieberman's speech sucks?

[Emboldened Chimp]

Check in here!

[MidwestTransplant]

1. He sucks.

[Kahuna]

2. Yes.

nt

[Not Me]

3. I respect the guy, but he's following a couple big acts this week...

n/t

[spanone]

4. Yep, Joe's a snooooze. I'm not much for Hawkish Dems.

[LowerManhattanite]

18. Giving him this spot was a sop...

...to the "moderate" wing that he has soooooooooo much pull with, lest he pull all 26 of them over to the GOP.

Best thing about his speech? The song that came after it---The Isley Brothers' "Shout!". Thankfully the speech wasn't followed by it's thematic natural, The Beatles' "I'm Only Sleeping". :)

[MaineSheAck]

22. How did you feel about Edwards hawkish attitude against AQ?

I have not seen a replay of it but the applause was minimal.

[Ms. Toad]

32. Extremely disappointed.

The Democratic team's attempts to outhawk the Republicans, based on the philosophy that we can't win unless we do so makes about as much sense as enacting the Patriot Act, in order to protect values we hold dear. By enacting the Patriot Act, we forfeit the very values what we are struggling to protect. By outhawking the Republicans we forfeit one of the things that makes Democrats more attractive to me than Republicans - putting diplomacy before military might, seeking peaceful resolutions to conflict, respecting the independence and integrity of countries around the world.

Many of the speeches I have heard, including Edwards, promote continuing to play the bully on the playground, rather than striving to resolve conflicts through means other than brute force.

I don't expect a candidate capable of beating Bush to be the dove that I have always been, but I do expect that a candidate I can vote for (rather than the candidate whose name I will mark as a vote against Bush) to emphasize that military might is a last resort, not a first option.

[thebigidea]

40. would you prefer a dovish attitude to a bunch of terrorists?

how fucking transparent.

[NJGeek]

5. He's the reason I didn't vote for Gore in 2000

What a deek.

[Cyrano]

14. I think Lieberman sucks, but who the hell DID you vote for in 2000?

Whether it was Nader, Bush, or if you just stayed home, you're part of the problem, not the solution.

[DrWeird]

17. Hey now.

Not voting for Lieberman's an easy mistake to make.

Hell, if he got the nomination I'd be voting for Nader or moving out of the country.

[Cyrano]

20. Lieberman was the VP candidate. GORE was THE Candidate.

Most people don't care who's running for VP. Think Dan (Mr. Potatoe Head) Quayle.

[Elidor]

27. What a way to welcome someone to DU

Nasty.

[Moonbeam_Starlight]

6. Me

it sucks.

[Moonbeam_Starlight]

7. OMG he totally stole

Edwards' line about hope being on the way.

Icky coming from him. Bye Joe.

[liberalmuse]

8. Well, his speech is better than Gephardt's...

Dear god, he just ruined Edward's, 'Hope is on the way!' for me.

[Endangered Specie]

9. LOL that was the sorriest "Hope is on the way" Ive ever heard.

[RoyGBiv]

15. Hope...

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[tishaLA]

24. Beautiful post

[RoyGBiv]

10. Absolutely not...

This is great.

Really.

Totally exciting.

I mean it.

No, I'm serious.

Truly.

Why you looking at me like that?

:eyes:

Oh, alright ... I spent the first half of the speech changing the cat box and the last half writing this.

[LittleApple81]

11. Joementum is linimentum for my brain that is dying of boredom. n/t

[BlackVelvetElvis]

12. Watching the speech with JCRobinhood

It's unanimous-we think he sucks.

[progressivebydesign]

13. I try to have compassion for the guy..

.. watching him speak just makes me cringe with embarrassment. Isn't that awful? I just feel so bad for him... I think I know that I would be just as bad, no actually worse, if I had to speak in front of a large group.

[asthmaticeog]

16. "Jomentum" -- that's a prescription sedative, right?

Ask your doctor if Joementum is right for you. Side effects may include headache, nausea, electoral impotence and destructive GOP legislation easily passing through the Senate.

[Pepperbelly]

28. no, that would be Joementumal ...

:D

[Fovea]

19. Actually, I thought this was a good speech by his standards.

I have heard far worse presentations by Joe.

On the other hand, he is fighting several pounds out of his weight class.

[RoyGBiv]

21. The last line...

Seriously ... I didn't find it horrible until the last line. He destroyed the "hope is on the way" line.

[Fovea]

26. You are going to hear this line cited by a lot of speakers

And Pelosi just said it as well.

It is not a great line, IMO. BUt it's what we do with it that counts.

[RoyGBiv]

31. Well, yeah...

But that was my point. Joe did it poorly, very poorly.

How bad it sounded keeps echoing in my head, in fact.

[LowerManhattanite]

23. Zzzzzzzzzzz-berman as a lead in...

...is a canny move. Ben Stein reading from an Inuit phone book would look like the MC5 coming after No-mentum. :)

[Carni]

25. I changed the channel

He sucks in general--if there were more of him in the Dem party I would defect!

[LiberalManiacfromOC]

29. yawn

:boring:

[Waverley_Hills_Hiker]

30. dull..hard to follow Wes Clarks

Lieberman is just a dull public speaker. Something tired there.

[Misunderestimator]

33. Worst speech of the convention... not surprising.

[slutticus]

34. Well....Joementum can cause deceleration as well..

....DOH! Seriously...I couln't believe he was speaking.

[nostamj]

35. joe ho hummer gave a speech?

YAWN.... I trimmed my nails and watched 10 minutes of Big Brother!

[RetroLounge]

36. Yes, and I didn't even watch it

but I know Joe...

RL

[KoKo]

37. It was disgusting. He got very little applause and what there was was

unenthusiastic unless he mentioned Kerry's name. Big mistake putting him on, I think. But, I understand why they did. He achieved what they wanted for the viewing audience, but he was lecturing us Democrats as if we didn't know how to behave.

[liberalcanuck]

38. It sure was a humdinger.... yawwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwn!

He must feel so alienated in the party.

[peacetalksforall]

39. And guess who is going to get invited to the CPN (corp propaganda

networks)? He will be on all the shows and they will ask him something that requires his confirmation and he will go along with it and it won't be groundbreaking and it won't be pro-democrat.

I want to know why Joe L has so much time to suck up and betray on right wing networks?

He has made me doubt my inner steering wheel when I remember how excited I got about his selection as VP four years ago. I was thrilled that we did Catholic and were now doing Jewish and I projected Native American, Black, Buddhist, Moslem. And I loved his wife. I was one enthusiastic person and I trusted Gore. So was it me, Gore, the DNC, or was it him?