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DuctapeFatwa (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-29-04 11:58 PM Original message |
Failed State America: Scenes from the Death Chamber |
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izzie (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jul-30-04 12:04 AM Response to Original message |
1. What is this? |
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tabasco (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jul-30-04 12:07 AM Response to Reply #1 |
2. A letter from Utopia ... |
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REP (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jul-30-04 03:05 AM Response to Reply #1 |
44. The Sound of Someone Taken By His Own Voice |
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Violet_Crumble (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jul-30-04 08:22 AM Response to Reply #44 |
56. I vote we all stick with monotone grunting style! |
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JohnLocke (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jul-30-04 09:32 PM Response to Reply #56 |
74. Please, Violet. |
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JSJ (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jul-30-04 12:24 AM Response to Original message |
3. excellent analylisis! |
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Elidor (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jul-30-04 12:26 AM Response to Original message |
4. Perhaps not the most opportune moment to rip off veils |
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BigMcLargehuge (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jul-30-04 12:30 AM Response to Original message |
5. and so I say... |
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Media_Lies_Daily (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jul-30-04 12:33 AM Response to Original message |
6. You lost me at "As". |
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blm (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jul-30-04 12:36 AM Response to Original message |
7. The day YOU go to poor villages in Africa and care for the sick and dying |
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Aidoneus (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jul-30-04 12:53 AM Response to Reply #7 |
10. *earn the right* to criticize our dear future Queen? |
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blm (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jul-30-04 12:56 AM Response to Reply #10 |
11. Queen, my ass. That's more vain, warped horseshit perception. |
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JohnLocke (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jul-30-04 09:36 PM Response to Reply #10 |
75. Apparenly some are just soooo "fashionably jaded" |
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DemBones DemBones (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jul-30-04 12:42 AM Response to Original message |
8. I know what you're saying, and hope it's not |
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Aidoneus (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jul-30-04 12:45 AM Response to Original message |
9. Nothing less.. |
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blm (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jul-30-04 12:59 AM Response to Reply #9 |
12. Prettier version of there's no difference between Kerry and Bush. |
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JohnLocke (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jul-30-04 09:37 PM Response to Reply #9 |
76. "Brilliance" my ass. |
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Aidoneus (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jul-30-04 11:51 PM Response to Reply #76 |
93. "my ass", "bullshit" |
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Pastiche423 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jul-30-04 01:14 AM Response to Original message |
13. This was the perfect time |
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stavka (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jul-30-04 01:23 AM Response to Original message |
14. So, how is Lyndon these days? - is he well? |
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Eric J in MN (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jul-30-04 01:24 AM Response to Original message |
15. regarding the secret prisons |
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thebigidea (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jul-30-04 01:25 AM Response to Reply #15 |
16. you'd think that ridding the world of Rumsfeld/Wolfowitz... |
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jpgray (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jul-30-04 01:30 AM Response to Original message |
17. Do something |
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scarletwoman (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jul-30-04 01:33 AM Response to Original message |
18. You certainly have a way with words, DF |
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jpgray (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jul-30-04 01:39 AM Response to Reply #18 |
19. I doubt he'll reply, but I'll say you're right--this should not offend |
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scarletwoman (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jul-30-04 01:49 AM Response to Reply #19 |
22. "...actively working to collapse it." |
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jpgray (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jul-30-04 02:01 AM Response to Reply #22 |
26. Well, I'm not convinced the foundation is beyond hope of repair |
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scarletwoman (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jul-30-04 02:14 AM Response to Reply #26 |
32. It's funny, when I read your three options... |
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jpgray (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jul-30-04 02:18 AM Response to Reply #32 |
34. By 'collapse' I mean in the sense of a real social and economic disaster |
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scarletwoman (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jul-30-04 02:33 AM Response to Reply #34 |
37. No need to be sorry. |
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nothingshocksmeanymore (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jul-30-04 01:52 AM Response to Reply #19 |
23. UM WORD to the people that sympathize |
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jpgray (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jul-30-04 01:58 AM Response to Reply #23 |
25. Sure--this conversation is made possible by an inequitable system |
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nothingshocksmeanymore (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jul-30-04 02:04 AM Response to Reply #25 |
27. I don't see a call to anything in his post..except hopelessness and defeat |
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jpgray (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jul-30-04 02:11 AM Response to Reply #27 |
31. I'm hopeful and I'm not defeated, but I can still value what DF has to say |
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nothingshocksmeanymore (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jul-30-04 02:16 AM Response to Reply #31 |
33. OK let me get this straight..so you are saying |
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jpgray (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jul-30-04 02:26 AM Response to Reply #33 |
35. The post is effective because we're here talking about it. :-) |
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nothingshocksmeanymore (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jul-30-04 02:39 AM Response to Reply #35 |
39. But he isnt saying that. He is equating the two as being the same |
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jpgray (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jul-30-04 02:48 AM Response to Reply #39 |
41. He's taking the big picture view |
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scarletwoman (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jul-30-04 02:05 AM Response to Reply #23 |
28. He doesn't kill off MY hope, not at all. |
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nothingshocksmeanymore (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jul-30-04 02:08 AM Response to Reply #28 |
30. Yeah but that's you |
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scarletwoman (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jul-30-04 02:27 AM Response to Reply #30 |
36. Ah well... |
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nothingshocksmeanymore (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jul-30-04 02:37 AM Response to Reply #36 |
38. Right back at you |
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no name no slogan (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jul-30-04 10:35 PM Response to Reply #28 |
87. I have to agree sw |
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rman (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jul-30-04 03:00 AM Response to Reply #23 |
43. What are you saying? |
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jpgray (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jul-30-04 03:11 AM Response to Reply #43 |
46. I think she is saying we all indirectly participate in this tragedy |
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nothingshocksmeanymore (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jul-30-04 09:47 AM Response to Reply #43 |
59. Moore didn't rail against capitalism so your example is not |
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nothingshocksmeanymore (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jul-30-04 01:45 AM Response to Original message |
20. Mmmm...a turd in the punchbowl..just what I ordered |
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ronabop (361 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jul-30-04 01:45 AM Response to Original message |
21. The good thing about dying... |
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Droopy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jul-30-04 01:54 AM Response to Original message |
24. You know, I wish socialism worked, and |
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rman (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jul-30-04 02:44 AM Response to Reply #24 |
40. socialism works if it doesn't get screwed up by those |
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jpgray (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jul-30-04 02:49 AM Response to Reply #40 |
42. Yes, human beings seem to always get in the way of our systems |
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rman (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jul-30-04 03:05 AM Response to Reply #42 |
45. not just "human beings"; |
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jpgray (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jul-30-04 03:13 AM Response to Reply #45 |
47. Yes, but no large-scale system in history has contained those people |
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rman (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jul-30-04 03:21 AM Response to Reply #47 |
48. such large scale systems arize because |
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jpgray (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jul-30-04 03:34 AM Response to Reply #48 |
49. Decentralization brings its own set of problems |
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rman (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jul-30-04 03:45 AM Response to Reply #49 |
51. sleep well, we'll talk later |
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ThirdWheelLegend (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jul-30-04 02:07 AM Response to Original message |
29. Excellent as usual df. |
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Suzi Creamcheese (126 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jul-30-04 03:43 AM Response to Original message |
50. Is this a signal that we can stop being optimistic? |
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Tight_rope (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jul-30-04 04:45 AM Response to Original message |
52. Hope is all I have left...I can't let it go.. |
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Baltimoreboy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jul-30-04 05:47 AM Response to Original message |
53. Well that certainly is insane |
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Violet_Crumble (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jul-30-04 08:33 AM Response to Reply #53 |
57. Well that was certainly pathetic ... |
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Baltimoreboy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jul-30-04 06:15 PM Response to Reply #57 |
60. So let me get this straight |
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Violet_Crumble (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jul-30-04 08:06 PM Response to Reply #60 |
65. Help me help you get this straight... |
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Baltimoreboy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jul-30-04 08:27 PM Response to Reply #65 |
66. You are the one calling America a rogue state |
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Violet_Crumble (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jul-30-04 08:37 PM Response to Reply #66 |
67. And how is that mocking? |
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Baltimoreboy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jul-31-04 09:03 AM Response to Reply #67 |
97. Twaddle? |
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IndianaGreen (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jul-31-04 07:10 AM Response to Reply #66 |
95. America is an imperialist state |
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Baltimoreboy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jul-31-04 09:00 AM Response to Reply #95 |
96. The only reason Israel is considered rogue |
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IndianaGreen (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jul-31-04 09:06 AM Response to Reply #96 |
98. "Israel go away" |
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PsychoDad (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jul-30-04 05:58 AM Response to Original message |
54. A Reqreium for Amerikkka. |
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incapsulated (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jul-30-04 06:06 AM Response to Original message |
55. "Heinz-Halliburton" ??? |
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burythehatchet (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jul-30-04 09:01 AM Response to Original message |
58. Welcome back duct |
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DuctapeFatwa (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jul-30-04 07:37 PM Response to Original message |
61. I did not intend to reply to responses to this post |
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Eric J in MN (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jul-30-04 07:55 PM Response to Reply #61 |
64. The Bill Clinton Administration didn't electrically shock prisoners, |
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IndianaGreen (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jul-31-04 07:08 AM Response to Reply #64 |
94. The Clinton Administration did use a new version of Agent Orange |
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Name removed (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jul-30-04 07:51 PM Response to Original message |
62. Deleted message |
rumguy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jul-30-04 07:55 PM Response to Original message |
63. hahahahahahahaha |
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Aidoneus (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jul-30-04 08:58 PM Response to Reply #63 |
68. Name a single country or region. |
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jdonaldball (684 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jul-30-04 09:22 PM Response to Reply #68 |
70. Iceland |
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Aidoneus (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jul-30-04 10:02 PM Response to Reply #70 |
80. I came up with 5.. |
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jdonaldball (684 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jul-30-04 10:08 PM Response to Reply #80 |
81. Might have been some CIA in Bhutan |
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Aidoneus (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jul-30-04 10:32 PM Response to Reply #81 |
85. I thought of that.. it's also on China's border |
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paulk (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jul-30-04 08:59 PM Response to Original message |
69. you need to get out more, DF |
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JohnLocke (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jul-30-04 09:26 PM Response to Original message |
71. Demagogical bullshit. |
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tlcandie (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jul-30-04 09:27 PM Response to Original message |
72. DF...thanks for sharing and TRYING to open some eyes.. |
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JohnLocke (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jul-30-04 09:27 PM Response to Original message |
73. More "Bush=Kerry" nonsense. |
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burythehatchet (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jul-30-04 09:45 PM Response to Reply #73 |
77. I think you're wrong JohnLocke |
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JohnLocke (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jul-30-04 09:46 PM Response to Reply #77 |
78. What? |
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burythehatchet (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jul-30-04 09:52 PM Response to Reply #78 |
79. huh? |
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rumguy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jul-30-04 10:17 PM Response to Original message |
82. I could have written your little screed for you |
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rumguy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jul-30-04 10:18 PM Response to Original message |
83. I find it funny how you post this and then just flee |
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DuctapeFatwa (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Aug-01-04 12:51 PM Response to Reply #83 |
99. You are welcome to see post 61, you will need to scroll |
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rumguy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jul-30-04 10:21 PM Response to Original message |
84. When you write something like this |
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Aidoneus (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jul-30-04 10:34 PM Response to Reply #84 |
86. When you read something like that |
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rumguy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jul-30-04 10:37 PM Response to Reply #86 |
88. It's over the top hyperbole |
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Aidoneus (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jul-30-04 10:52 PM Response to Reply #88 |
89. a sacred cow struck with a tuning fork |
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rumguy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jul-30-04 10:54 PM Response to Reply #89 |
90. lol |
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Aidoneus (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jul-30-04 10:57 PM Response to Reply #90 |
91. and I'll let your effective silence do the same |
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jdonaldball (684 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jul-30-04 10:58 PM Response to Reply #84 |
92. It's over the top but |
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