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YEM Donating Member (553 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-30-04 10:30 AM
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Is Nancy Reagan really pissed at Bush? Is this article for real??
WOW! From Capital Blue hill/


Nancy Reagan to Bush: 'We Don't Support Your Re-Election'
By TERESA HAMPTON & WILLIAM D. McTAVISH
Capitol Hill Blue Staff
Jul 30, 2004, 08:12


The widow of former President, and Republican icon, Ronald Reagan has told the GOP she wants nothing to do with their upcoming national convention or the re-election campaign of President George W. Bush.
Nancy Reagan turned down numerous invitations to appear at the Republican National Convention and has warned the Bush campaign she will not tolerate any use of her or her late husbands words or images in the President’s re-election effort.

“Mrs. Reagan does not support President Bush’s re-election and neither to most members of the President’s family,” says a spokesman for the former First Lady.


Nancy Reagan
Reagan’s son, Ron, spoke at the just-concluded Democratic National Convention and writes in next month’s Esquire magazine that “George W. Bush and his administration have taken normal mendacity to a startling new level far beyond lies of convenience. They traffic in big lies.”

Ron Reagan is joined by his sister Patty in opposing Bush’s re-election effort. Only brother Michael Reagan, a conservative talk show host, supports the President and claims Ron is manipulating his mother.

Unlike the other Reagan children, Michael is not Reagan’s biological child. He was adopted by Reagan during the actor’s first marriage to actress Jane Wyman and often complains that his stepmother, Nancy, likes Ron best.

“He is her favorite,” Michael Reagan told Fox News. “Ron can do no wrong. I mean, basically that's it, Ron can do no wrong.”

Ron, however, claims George W. Bush has destroyed the Republican Party his father helped build.

“My father, acting roles excepted, never pretended to be anyone but himself,” Reagan writes in Esquire. “His Republican Party, furthermore, seems a far cry from the current model, with its cringing obeisance to the religious right.”

The Reagans’ split with Bush and the party centers around stem cell research which many believe can help find a cure for Alzheimer’s, the disease that crippled President Reagan in his final years. Bush and the ultra-conservative wing of the Republican Party oppose use of new stem cells. The Reagans, with the exception of Michael, support such use.

There’s more to the feud than that, however. Nancy Reagan has told close followers she believes Bush and the current Republican leadership have divided America with their extreme views. She has told Republican leaders she wants nothing to do with the party or Bush.

During the week of Reagan’s funeral, the former First Lady “went ballistic” when she learned the Bush campaign was test marketing new ads that used Reagan’s photos and speeches in an effort to show he supported Bush and his re-election. She personally called Republican Party Chief Ed Gillespie to demand the ads be destroyed.

Republican strategists admit the ads were produced but never ran. They were pulled after scoring poorly with focus groups where viewers found them in “poor taste.”

“Mrs. Reagan doesn’t care why the ads were pulled. She just wanted to make sure they never went on the air,” says a spokesman for the First Lady. “She does care about whether or not the memory of President Reagan is used for political purposes.”
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devilgrrl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-30-04 10:33 AM
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1. Link please...
eom
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Wind Dancer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-30-04 10:39 AM
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5. I don't think this is a reliable source.
Over the years, I have heard that the Reagan's did not have a good relationship with the Bushes. When poppy was interviewed on LKL, he said he had only spoken with Nancy once or twice since Reagan left office. The interview was immediately after Reagan died.


http://www.capitolhillblue.com/artman/publish/article_4935.shtml
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Media_Lies_Daily Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-30-04 11:08 AM
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16. CHB may not be a reliable source, but consider the following:....
1. Any mention of Ronald Reagan has been dropped by the NeoCons;

2. Ron Reagan, jr. has taken a very active role against the re-election of FratBoy;

3. Nancy Reagan has indeed turned down requests to attend the GOP Convention;

4. Nancy Reagan's appeal for increasing the efforts of stem cell research was slapped down by a very public rebuke from Pickles;

5. Only one Reagan remains committed to the NeoCon agenda...Michael Reagan, and he has a poor relationship with the rest of the Reagan family;

6. Over the years a number of very curious stories have appeared in the press in regards to the attempted assassination of Reagan by John Hinckley in 1981. Poppy Bush has also been linked with the assassination of JFK in a number of different ways. Maybe these stories have something to do with the high level of animosity between the families of Bush and Reagan:

<http://www.hereinreality.com/hinckley.html>
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KoKo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-30-04 11:13 AM
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19. Good Points, "MLD" (n/t)
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Wind Dancer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-30-04 11:29 AM
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22. I agree completely with all of the above.
It was strange hearing poppy and wife talking about how much they loved Nancy yet they only spoke a few times in all those years.
More info:

-snip-

Rodney Stich's book "Defrauding America" tells of a "deep-cover CIA officer"assigned to a counter-intelligence unit, code-named Pegasus. This unit "had tape-recordings of plans to assassinate Kennedy" from a tap on the phone of J. Edgar Hoover. The people on the tapes were " Rockefeller, Allen Dulles, Johnson of Texas, George Bush and J. Edgar Hoover."

Could George Bush be involved in the JFK assassination?

In 1963, Bush was living in Houston, busily carrying out his duties as President of the Zapata Offshore oil company. He denied the existence of a note sent by the FBI's J. Edgar Hoover to "Mr. George Bush of the CIA." When news of the note surfaced, the CIA first said they never commented on employment questions, but later relented said yes, a "George Bush" was mentioned in the note, but that it was "another" George Bush, not the man who took office in the White House in 1988.

Some intrepid reporters tracked down the "other" George Bush and discovered that he was just a lowly clerk who had shuffled papers for the CIA for about six months. He never received any interagency messages from anybody at the FBI, let alone the Queen Mary.


more

http://www.questionsquestions.net/docs04/0606_bushjfk.html
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asthmaticeog Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-30-04 10:34 AM
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2. Nancy Reagan totally despises the Bushes.
Pretty much always has.
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Melodybe Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-30-04 10:35 AM
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3. I don't doubt a word of it, for once in my life I am proud of the Reagan
family.

Ron's article rocks! Patti's letter about Ron's speech rocked and I know that Ronnie must be proud that "Mommie" and the kids are trying to help the world.

Good for them.
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hlthe2b Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-30-04 12:20 PM
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23. Patti's letter about Ron's speech: I missed this. Can you post link?
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kskiska Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-30-04 05:48 PM
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26. Patti's article: Shining Moment
My brother’s speech filled up some of the empty space left by our father’s death—and moved me to tears, writes Patti Davis

(snip)

There was something sweetly haunting about the cadence of his voice, the occasional tilt of his head. There was a shadow of our father there, a shadow that rustled beneath the skin of his son and made more than a few people see the resemblance. I suppose I have seen hints of that in the past—a son showing characteristics of our father, Ronald Reagan—but never as much as I saw them last night.

When a loved one dies, you try to fill up the empty space that person has left behind. You fill it up with each other. My mother, Ron and I stretch ourselves across the chasm my father left when he died. We fill it up with long conversations, with frequent visits and, most importantly, with carrying on—trying to do something in this world that will help, that will have worth and resonance. Last night my brother filled up that empty space with a fierce compassion, a pledge to further the effort of stem-cell research, a commitment to help herald in a new dawn of medicine that is nothing short of miraculous.

(snip)

My mother, Ron and I stood at our father’s bedside when he took his last breath. We knew we would have to go on from that day, that moment, that room that was suddenly so silent. We would have to remember all that my father taught us about making a difference in the world, and we would have to trust that if we spoke from our hearts, people would listen.
I believe my father was watching his son last night. I believe he was smiling. I think he cocked his head and said, “Well, look at that.” As children we never lose the desire to make our parents proud of us. We run away from that desire for years, until we decide to stop running. But we never lose it. My brother accomplished that last night—he made his father proud.

more…
http://msnbc.msn.com/id/5538567/site/newsweek/

Notice she never once mentions Michael.
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yellowcanine Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-30-04 10:36 AM
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4. I don't know but it makes sense. Why would Nancy Reagan want to speak at
a nominating convention now that Ronnie is gone? I think it is in extremely poor taste if the Republicans even asked her to do it, let alone pressured her. The ad thing is beyond the pale. At the least, the Pubs should have cleared it with Nancy first.
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SemperEadem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-30-04 05:43 PM
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25. Besides, isn't she still officially "in mourning"?
Seems that it would be in bad taste for her to appear in public so soon after her husband's death for the purposes of pimping his image to sell a pretender to the country that isn't buying.
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DinahMoeHum Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-30-04 10:40 AM
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6. It's been no secret that Nancy despises the Bushies. . .
she looks at then as the vulgar, crass, preppy POS's they are.

Sorry, 'Pukes. This is the year the "Reagan Democrats" come home.

:kick:
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22181 Donating Member (215 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-30-04 10:40 AM
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7. You know, much as I want this to be true...
I just don't trust Capital Blue. Two errors in this article alone ("to" rather than "do" and misspelling Patti's first name). They also always cite unnamed sources.

I view them as sort of the Enquirer for the left - not reliable, but at least fun to read. I have waited hopefully for many of their stories (Bush using antidepressants, etc) to catch on but I don't think they have enough facts to back them up. If they did, the stories might go mainstream.
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kwolf68 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-30-04 10:40 AM
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8. Well, there does exists plausibility
Edited on Fri Jul-30-04 10:41 AM by kwolf68
Is it funny we haven't seen much celebratory masterbation of Reagan?

Very soon after his death, I was seeing ads and pictures showing up...but now they are all gone. They are left with Pickles, Liberal, Makeover and Turned Corners.

Meanwhile, Nancy is begging off their convention and the entire Reagen family for the most part has turned against them.

This, my friends, is telling.
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Wind Dancer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-30-04 10:54 AM
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9. Agree, very telling!
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Wind Dancer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-30-04 10:54 AM
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10. Dupe!
Edited on Fri Jul-30-04 10:55 AM by FrustratedDemInNC
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newscaster Donating Member (586 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-30-04 10:59 AM
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13. Nancy may not be what people thinks she is.
Nancy Reagan may be a democrat, not a Republican. Remember, Ron Sr was a democrat before he was a Republican and he was a union member thru all his acting career and President of the Union as well. He may have switched parties but there are some things in your life that stick with you to the end. It may be that way with Nancy too.
Who knows? If we had asked, she too might have addressed the Democratic convention.

Wishful thinking? Maybe but then again........
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Wind Dancer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-30-04 11:09 AM
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18. I had this fantasy that she would
be a surprise speaker and be introduced immediately following Ron's speech.
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NewJeffCT Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-30-04 10:56 AM
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11. Not a suprise, but CHB is not the most reliable source
It's not a surpise, but I don't really trust Capitol Hill Blue as a source.
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obnoxiousdrunk Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-30-04 10:57 AM
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12. Was Michael Reagan
their adopted son ??
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City Lights Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-30-04 11:15 AM
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20. Michael is the adopted son of Ronald and Jane Wyman. n/t
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Norquist Nemesis Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-30-04 11:00 AM
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14. This reporter is the same one that wrote about Bush's drugs. n/t
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Sperk Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-30-04 11:06 AM
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15. Nancy never liked the Bushes. Isn't it true that they were NEVER
invited up to the private quarters in the White House?
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Snoggera Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-30-04 11:09 AM
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17. I'd be pissed
if the father of the current resident tried to rub out my partner in an attempted coup.

But who knows, in this wacky wonderful world even an attempted murderer can become president.
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progressivebydesign Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-30-04 11:18 AM
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21. CHB.. they really seem to have the goods..
.. I have yet to see a story that has not turned out to be at least, partially, true. They don't name sources because they get tips and treats from insiders. That's how they can publish some of these wild things. Like the Enquirer, which is often.. actually.. true, the things they write about are later found to be true, but no one wanted to be on the record at that point, until someone else let the cat out of the bag. The upcoming story in Esquire is certainly easily checked for accuracy against CHB's claims.
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Moderator DU Moderator Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-30-04 05:22 PM
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24. YEM
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knight_of_the_star Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-30-04 05:53 PM
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27. Wow
If that is true then it looks like the GOP is beginning to split.





Cool.
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