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Massacure Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-30-04 11:49 AM
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Was Clinton loved outside the U.S.???
Edited on Fri Jul-30-04 11:49 AM by Massacure
Because I'm debating with someone who says that he is well known because of his economic policies at home, but not for his foreign policies. I was always under the impression that foreigners loved him though.
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GreenPartyVoter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-30-04 11:50 AM
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1. Depends on which area of the world you are looking at.
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lottie244 Donating Member (903 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-30-04 12:36 PM
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30. Clinton was 'worshiped' by the people of the world; despised by leaders
If Clinton wanted to, he could be elected President of the EU.
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Reverend_Smitty Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-30-04 11:50 AM
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2. Here you go
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NewJeffCT Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-30-04 11:51 AM
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3. Clinton was loved
I don't have statistics, but I remember seeing on DU that he had a 95% approval rating in Russia, and I know the Chinese greatly admire & respect both Bill & Hillary.

Two pretty big countries right there.
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aquart Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-30-04 11:52 AM
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7. Ireland adores him.
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Melodybe Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-30-04 12:11 PM
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18. We were in Ireland for the Referendum, we got a lot of free drinks
for just being Americans.

The Irish LOVE LOVE LOVE Bill Clinton.
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Screaming Lord Byron Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-30-04 11:51 AM
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4. I lived in Scotland at the time. They liked him.
Canadians like him too, in the main.
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noahmijo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-30-04 11:51 AM
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5. He was loved everywhere outside the US
Except by countries like Saudia Arabia.

Even Pakistan loved Clinton according to one of my Pakistani friends who witnessed one of Clinton's visits. He told me that the crowd was large and that Clinton had one them over.
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htuttle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-30-04 11:52 AM
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6. He is hugely popular in Ireland
He gets totally mobbed when he goes there. They just named a golf course after him, too.

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chiburb Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-30-04 11:52 AM
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8. Ireland:
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BigBrother Donating Member (28 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-30-04 12:43 PM
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33. The Irish
I knew I liked the Irish for a reason.

Seriously when I was over in Ireland in Jan. our guides had nothing but good things to say about Clinton. Even in Northern Ireland the guides praised him. But their remarkes on Bush however were not so kind. If a guide happened to mention Bush on the street and other people heard they made very interesting comments.
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Snoggera Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-30-04 11:54 AM
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9. Clinton can go anywhere in the world
and receive a standing ovation.

He also doesn't have to worry about being imprisoned for war crimes, unlike many political nutcases that still create and implement policy.
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DeepModem Mom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-30-04 11:55 AM
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10. I've lived most of the time abroad the last 4 yrs; Europeans love...
admire and respect the Big Dog. They recognize his intellect and the sophistication of his worldview; some say he looks like what a U.S. President is supposed to look like, in contrast to GW Bush.
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madrchsod Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-30-04 11:55 AM
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11. i wouldn`t know where to begin
Edited on Fri Jul-30-04 11:57 AM by rchsod
on examples of the differences between clinton and bush in their world travels.where ever clinton goes he`s treated like a rock star and bush hides behind a wall of stormtroopers..
women in the a country in balkans named babies after him and clark and their visit several years ago was a national holiday....
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Sparkly Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-30-04 11:56 AM
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12. The day the chimp was sworn in
A London paper ran a headline that said "Bill, We Miss You Already" or something like that. Anybody else remember it?
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Iceburg Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-30-04 11:56 AM
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13. Adored and greatly respected in Canada
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Longhorn Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-30-04 12:00 PM
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16. Hillary says in her autobiography
that one of the reasons they loved to travel is that they were treated with love and adoration wherever they went -- unlike what was happening in the U.S. at the time.

A subjective opinion, to be sure, but from one who was there.
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Minstrel Boy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-30-04 12:06 PM
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17. Poll from 1997: 79% of Canadians approved of Clinton, 57% Americans
Edited on Fri Jul-30-04 12:13 PM by Minstrel Boy
http://www.ipsos-na.com/news/pressrelease.cfm?id=932&content=full

I wouldn't call Clinton loved in Canada - that wouldn't be very Canadian of us - but he was respected. And his hounding absolutely mystified us.

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LSdemocrat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-30-04 11:58 AM
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14. In Africa he drew crowds of over 1 MILLION people
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Rose Siding Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-30-04 12:31 PM
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25. When Bush visited this year, I read reports that said...
that many Africans still kept Clinton's picture on their walls. He was much loved.
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obnoxiousdrunk Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-30-04 11:59 AM
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15. Had read
a story that crowds were uncontrollable in India.
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Bush was AWOL Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-30-04 12:12 PM
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19. Yes
I have a buddy in Europe and he says they hate Bush, but loved Clinton. By the way, they are cheering for JK and loved the speech last night according to him. He is a soldier and he said his fellow soldiers were impressed.
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info being Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-30-04 12:14 PM
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20. Yes, there is a Pub in Kosice, Slovakia that is all Clinton-themed.
Edited on Fri Jul-30-04 12:15 PM by info being
It still exists to this day...wonderful pictures of Clinton all over the walls.
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Doctor_J Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-30-04 12:16 PM
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21. it's like this
the US has 20 million or so limbiciles. those people hate clinton, the rest of the world adores him. those 20 million love bush, and the entire rest of the world despises him. This is a slight exageration of course, but accurate.

Big Dog used to wade through crowds of adoring people who they let surround him. Bush has to have entire cities closed to prevent violence.
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Bjornsdotter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-30-04 12:17 PM
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22. Yes....

.....huge crowds turned out to see him in Sweden the summer of 2002.

They still like him...

Cheers,
Kim :toast:
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CaTeacher Donating Member (983 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-30-04 12:26 PM
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23. I lived in the United Kingdom for a brief time during the
Edited on Fri Jul-30-04 12:32 PM by CaTeacher
Clinton presidency. They enjoyed him as a person--but they also loved using him to make fun of America and American's. On my travels, I was always hearing mean jokes about Clinton that showed a disrespect of Clinton, the presidency, American and Americans.

With Bush--when I was abroad, I would find absolute HATRED directed toward him by random folks (who approach me on a train etc), however they mostly seem to respect him more than they did Clinton. They talked about him as a leader--not as a joke. They hated him--but were not making fun of him. (at least openly to the American visitor) It is very odd.

Maybe F911 will change things for Bush?
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Bjornsdotter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-30-04 12:41 PM
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32. What I find funny...

...is that since Bush came into office; Clinton seems to become more and more popular in Sweden. I guess it's a longing for the "good old days". LOL

Cheers,
Kim :toast:
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erpowers Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-30-04 12:30 PM
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24. I Remember a Poll
It came out about a year or two ago. It asked people from other countries to rate the American people/things the admired most. Though he was 10th on the list, Bill Clinton was either the only human, or the only political figure from America on the list. The number one person on the list was the fictional character Homer Simpson.
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geek tragedy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-30-04 12:32 PM
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26. Everywhere except the Balkans and Greece. eom
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Aftershock Donating Member (228 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-30-04 12:32 PM
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27. Oh, I'm pretty sure he was loved.
He didn't start wars whenever he felt like it.
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Teddy_Salad Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-30-04 12:33 PM
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28. Was and still is hugely popular in Australia
Was back in Australia last February....everyone was asking if Clinton could come back.

They miss him a lot and absolutely love him down there.
He vacations in Australia often too.
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BayouBengal07 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-30-04 12:34 PM
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29. I remember reading a report
that Tony Blair cried when Bill made his last visit to England as president.

I've seen pictures of him mobbed by adoring fans in India and Africa, Europe and Asia.

Not everyone abroad liked his policies but they all recognized that he was extremly smart on his feet. I've got the PBS special on globalization "The Commanding Heights", and to hear him talk about globalization and the international economy is just incredible. I'd like to see Bush wax about the global shifts of labor and capital.
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Habibi Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-30-04 12:38 PM
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31. Clinton was loved, but the American people
were thought to be dumbasses, for making such a big deal out of the Lewinsky affair. According to a Russian friend of mine, anyway.
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