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JohnKleeb Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-30-04 11:49 AM
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anyone else feeling a Kerry landslide
http://special.msn.com/msn/election2004.armx?GT1=4244
I know its only an online poll but Kerry has nearly 60% and only one percentage for Nader.
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benburch Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-30-04 11:50 AM
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1. I am feeling a rumble...
but if we start expecting a landslide, we will lose!

We have to fight today, tomorrow, and every one of the next 93 days as though George Bush has a 5 point lead and we need to close the gap.
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JohnKleeb Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-30-04 11:52 AM
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3. right but I can feel it
All these reports of republicans saying they'll support Kerry and once Kerry critics going for Kerry instead of just against Bush. Remember I still thought he had a shot in December despite being a Kucinich man.
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benburch Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-30-04 11:54 AM
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6. Exactly.
Dennis was my first choice, but I felt that Kerry was going to take it. I donated to Kerry the day he first announced, when nobody else was in the race, and I have always respected him.
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JohnKleeb Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-30-04 11:55 AM
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10. well yeah I stood up for Kerry because I felt he wasnt as bad as people
gave him, I do the same for Dick Gephardt because Dick and me are economic issues soulmates heh and I remember watching him as a kid.
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Massacure Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-30-04 11:51 AM
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2. um, WTF?
Edited on Fri Jul-30-04 11:51 AM by Massacure
Is it only me who cannot see any MSNBC polls? This is the third thread today with MSNBC poll that I can't see.
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GreenPartyVoter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-30-04 11:53 AM
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5. I can see it. What browser are you using?
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Massacure Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-30-04 12:00 PM
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18. Firefox
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GreenPartyVoter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-30-04 11:52 AM
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4. Only if the junta doesn't do anything evil. But I don't trust them
Expect more screwing around with bote tgallies, Osama to pop out, a "minor" terrorist attack to happen, and a larger terrorist attack to be "foiled" (although it was all staged by * to begin with)

Also, * is so far gone that I hope Rove keeps the "football" away from him, because otherwise * will finally get that mushroom coud he has been hoping for.

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NewJeffCT Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-30-04 11:56 AM
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11. agreed, I don't trust them either
Wasn't it in the early '60s that the Pentagon went to JFK for a plan to stage terrorist attacks in the US and blame it on the Cubans as a pretext for invasion? JFK, obviously, nixed the plan.

If Cheney or Rummy went to Bush with a plan to stage terror attacks in the US (in key Democratic strongholds, of course!) as a pretext for invading Iran or Syria and also rally the country 'round the War President, would * say 'no' like JFK?

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jgardner Donating Member (130 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-30-04 12:24 PM
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22. I'm sure they'll try something,
but I know Kerry is a lot smarter than anyone at the GOP. If we've all thought of this, I'm sure that Kerry's camp has too, and they've hopefully thought of a way to work around it.
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GreenPartyVoter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-30-04 12:30 PM
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26. Welcome to DU :^D Let's hope you are right.
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Walt Starr Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-30-04 11:54 AM
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7. Actually, it's time to start WORKING for a landslide
Edited on Fri Jul-30-04 11:56 AM by Walt Starr
because the fix is already in and the only way we'll squeak through on this one is if we actually DO have a landslide, which will never be reflected in the results because, as I said, the fix is already in.

How do I know this? The Florida GOP is advising Republican voters in districts with BBV to file absentee ballots.
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JohnKleeb Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-30-04 11:56 AM
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12. of course
they're up to no good. this is the republican party we're talking about.
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info being Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-30-04 11:55 AM
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8. Nader needs to drop out.
He needs to say, "Listening to Kerry last night, I realized my work is done. I urge my supporters to support John Kerry."

Ralph is going to have a hard time differentiating from Kerry. As a Nader 2000 votere, I never thought I'd say that.
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JohnKleeb Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-30-04 11:57 AM
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16. I'd always thought Kerry would be a candiate that the greens would embrace
Being he has a liberal record and as we saw last night, the vision.
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GreenPartyVoter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-30-04 12:00 PM
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17. Well he might be liberal enough for some Greens, but for those of us
who are environmentally-minded socialists, there's a lot about Kerry's playing to the middle that doesn't sit well with us.

Still, he's a darned sight better than * and I think he might give me the election reform I want, whereas I know * never will.

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JohnKleeb Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-30-04 12:01 PM
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19. well I thought the evnironmental issue would help honest
because Kerry champions the environment. Well playing to the middle is kind of not what I like, but if he can play the role of a centrist while promoting what I saw last night, I think that would be great.
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GreenPartyVoter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-30-04 12:10 PM
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21. Environment is HUGE, no doubt about it. Gotta have a planet to live on,
but also gotta have quality life.

To me that means no coralling brown, red, yellow, or black-skinned people onto small, barely sustainable parcels of land. It means that every person has affordable quality health coverage. It means that the government annexes post-secondary education and training onto the public school system (perhaps through vouchers). It means getting that Department of Peace instead of Star Wars. It means bringing back the Fairness doctrine. It means separation of Corporation and state. It means never selling another weapon to a country that is not a democracy or democratic republic. It means no more nation-building. (And this only just scratches the surface.)

Kerry is talking a good talk. No doubt about it. Not as far as I'd like to go on the issues, but as you say I can live with it if he runs from a middle position and governs from the left. ;)

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GreenPartyVoter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-30-04 12:04 PM
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20. I don't think Nader does need to drop out. I think he needs to do what he
said he would, which is draw votes from the right. Looking at the polls just now, I would say he isn't really hurting Kerry because Kerry came out really strong. I will hold back on a final decision on Nader, though, til I see how the "bounce" from the GOP lovefest looks and how well Kerry continues to preach his populist message. If the numbers between * and Kerry get too close together again, then I'll start worrying more about Nader.

(I live for the day that we have ranked voting.)

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benburch Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-30-04 12:40 PM
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27. Nader the Traitor? Drawing votes from the RIGHT?
In what universe is this? Not here, certainly?

He exists to hurt the Democratic Party. He is being paid by the Republicans to do so. He is a Quisling. Period.
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ronnykmarshall Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-30-04 12:27 PM
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25. Pigs will fly first.
Nader won't drop out.
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lapfog_1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-30-04 12:45 PM
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28. Please email him with those thoughts! - EOM
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aquart Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-30-04 11:55 AM
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9. Shut up. Turn around three times. Spit over your left shoulder.
DO. NOT. JINX. THIS.
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JohnKleeb Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-30-04 11:57 AM
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13. I said feel
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Norquist Nemesis Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-30-04 11:57 AM
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14. Funny order on the poll...ya think?
Can't figure why that order would be put up. :shrug:
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Pluvious Donating Member (209 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-30-04 11:57 AM
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15. We need a meme webpage banner...
That says:

You're FIRED Mr. Bush !

Everyone start using it on everything we put up on the web,
spread it far and wide.

After watching the Dem. party in action this week, it's clear
Bush didn't lie about one thing...

He *IS* a uniter... He united the whole frelling Democratic Party !

__________________
"I'm a uniter not a divider. That means when it comes time to sew up
your chest cavity, we use stitches as opposed to opening it up."
-Bush, on David Letterman, March 2, 2000. (the audience booed)
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Doctor_J Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-30-04 12:26 PM
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23. if election is honest,
big landslide.
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KittyWampus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-30-04 12:27 PM
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24. Kleeb, Glad To See You're Back! If All The Votes Are Counted
it is Kerry in a popular and electoral landslide.

If they aren't all counted... it'll be close popular vote and Kerry getting electoral votes to win.

Kerry will win no matter what.

GOP will do what ever it takes to make it look like he has no mandate.
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ClassWarrior Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-30-04 12:49 PM
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29. NO!! NO-NO-NO-NO-NO!!! We can't get complacent!!
If it's gonna be a landslide, then we have to make it the biggest avalanche in the history of politics!! We need make sure this one is a slam dunk.

So get your butt out there to your local Kerry office and VOLUNTEER!! NOW!!!

<end of rant>


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