Snoggera
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Fri Jul-30-04 01:20 PM
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What a generic piece of tripe.
Yes, I support the neighbor that had to leave his wife and child for 15 months to fight a war halfway around the world in a meaningless attempt to secure America's peace.
How twisted is that?
I don't support the troops. I feel for every individual that has been sucked unwittingly into this quagmire, but
I don't support the troops.
They are not there to be humanitarians, and will tell you so. They are soldiers who fight wars and expect to come home when the fighting is over.
Support the troops?
Not me.
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Worst Username Ever
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Fri Jul-30-04 01:31 PM
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but my buddy joined the air nat'l guard because he couldn't qualify for scholarships, and he figured he could get some computer training. Yes, he knew the risks that he would be called up, but he didn't join to fight... if anything I'd say he was suckered by his slimy recruiter.
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Fri Jul-30-04 01:34 PM
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2. Today Bush said Kerry doesn't support the troops |
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Edited on Fri Jul-30-04 01:35 PM by BayouBengal07
He said Kerry voted against HIS $87 Billion plan, failing to tell the braying fans in the crowd that Kerry tried to get a previous Iraq investment plan passed that wouldn't dig into the national debt and our social security. He totally took the "I voted for the $87B before I voted against it" quote completely out of context.
I wish I could tell the world about that, so he can stop propagating his falsities. Sitting in front of my TV watching him lie without any way to rebut him makes me feel so powerless.
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Snoggera
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Fri Jul-30-04 01:40 PM
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3. That's why I don't watch tv |
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Edited on Fri Jul-30-04 01:40 PM by Snoggera
it is all insane propaganda.
Walk to the top of a mountain, sit there for awhile, think, then talk to me about your thoughts. (I am not writing this part in response to your response, but as a generic call for people to sit quietly, think, and then espouse their learning)
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Fri Jul-30-04 01:44 PM
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4. I support the troops. Bush doesn't though. |
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This isn't their war. War is never decided by the men and women who's lives are risked. Sure, there are some who are bad, many who are good, but they're all human.
This administration says they support the troops but they don't. Supporting the troops takes more responsibility than simply saying it. It means not taking them into a war based on lies, not cutting their benefits, not shutting down hospitals for Veterans and giving them piss poor health care. It means showing the coffins, going to the funerals, and valuing the life of each and every one of them. It means assuring they have adequate protection like bullet proof vests. Allowing them to retire when their time is up.
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Fri Jul-30-04 01:49 PM
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just last week spent the week in Phoenix making sure her husband was cremated and taking care of the kids. He had spent two years infantry in Vietnam, became a heroin addict, and never came back.
The time is up.
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Fri Jul-30-04 01:58 PM
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that she had to spend the week in Phoenix.
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Snoggera
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Fri Jul-30-04 02:07 PM
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11. Though she loves the kids |
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she couldn't wait to get out of there. We have gotten used to the rural life.
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Fri Jul-30-04 01:46 PM
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If they're raping children they must have a good reason, so stop asking questions. It's unamerican.
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Fri Jul-30-04 01:54 PM
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7. It's just a bunch of frat prank type stuff anyway. |
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Fri Jul-30-04 01:56 PM
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8. I support the people (troops) not the policy. |
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Armies are at the call of their commander. He's the fucked one.
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Fri Jul-30-04 02:00 PM
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10. Support the troops? What does that mean? |
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Do the troops BY THEMSELVES make decisions to go to war? No! It would be a nightmare if they did. They are the servants of their political masters. To criticize a war is to criticize the people who sent them there.
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Fri Jul-30-04 02:09 PM
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12. I support our troops.... |
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Because I was in their shoes once....I am a 8yr Navy Vet served in Bosnia and the first gulf war....but I do not support this administration.
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Fri Jul-30-04 02:14 PM
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13. I completely disagree with you |
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It's one thing to be anti-war. And if you believe the military is only about war, or that war is only about the military, then I can understand being anti-military.
But I cannot go along with being anti-men and women in the service. They are there for a wide variety of reasons, and I don't believe warmongering ranks high among those reasons. Many are there as a way to get a college education. Listen to Jessica Lynch, who just wanted to be a kindergarten teacher. Listen to Lila Lipscomb.
As for atrocities committed in Iraq, please don't make the mistake of John O'Neill. Telling the truth of what happened, and individual crimes, is not the same as accusing every man and woman in the military of being criminals, and doesn't absolve their leaders of responsibility.
These men and women are going through hell. It makes no difference whether they volunteered or were drafted -- the reality is we have a need for a military, and I'm grateful there are people who'll enlist. Don't confuse them with the missions they're sent on, or the actions of some.
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Fri Jul-30-04 02:25 PM
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14. I totally agree, but seldom open myself to criticism by saying so. |
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I am a pacifist. And don't start blabbing at me about pascifism. I use the word loosely. It says "Thou shalt not kill". Period. And don't start blabbing at me about bibles and god. Even if there isn't, those are the most powerful words I've ever seen.
The only argument I have seen for war, is to stop war. As far as I can see, troops support those who war. No troops, no wars. Period. Let the Milicovich's and Bush's fight it out amongst themselves.
I live near a company town where every other bush has a "support our troops" sign. I wonder what it is that they want from me. To do something? To think something? What?! I find it, frankly, obscene.
I do not, and never will support troops, nor war. And I'm affraid to say it. That's America- where one is affraid to voice a dissenting opinion. Even here, at DU, a supposedly open minded place, I don't see dissent without resistance.
Leaders start wars, and leaders should fight them. Show me one time where the people started a war. People are peaceful. It's those with physiological problems, such as those who like to be leaders, who are the problem. In general. I'm sure someone can refute everything I've said. Don't bother. I'm close minded. I believe in god, and I don't believe in war. If that's wrong, then the world has bigger problems than we think.
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Fri Jul-30-04 02:43 PM
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15. If you really want to help those stuck in this mess |
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http://booksforsoldiers.com they have a forum there with list of people stuck far away from home and not getting letters, find someone and spend a few minutes writing them, thanks.
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