elperromagico
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Fri Jul-30-04 01:26 PM
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How many presidential elections in this country were stolen? |
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Certainly the election of 1876. Probably the election of 1880. Maybe even the election of 1960. Definitely the election of 2000.
Is it possible that every election in this country which rested on a razor-thin margin was stolen?
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Fri Jul-30-04 01:27 PM
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I didnt know that. Now 1960, even without Illinois, Kennedy still wins.
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elperromagico
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Fri Jul-30-04 01:36 PM
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4. That's why I said "maybe the election of 1960." |
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Certainly votes were stolen in Illinois. Votes were probably also stolen in Texas. But I'd be a fool if I just assumed that Nixon, the King of Dirty Tricks, just sat back and didn't help himself to votes he didn't win.
And yes, 1880 was probably stolen. That was a very close election, and votes were almost certainly stolen in Indiana (which at the time was a Democratic-leaning state) and in other states... enough to put Garfield over the top.
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Fri Jul-30-04 01:41 PM
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the popular vote was close but Garfield won pretty decisevly on the electoral college, though Hancock was the better known general, he was a democrat and for many that meant he was equated with the rebellion.
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Fri Jul-30-04 01:52 PM
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8. His victory wasn't that decisive. |
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185 electoral votes were required to win. Garfield had 214 to Hancock's 155. A shift of 30 electoral votes would have made Hancock president.
It's very likely that votes were stolen in both New York and Indiana. That's 50 electoral votes, more than enough to change the result.
But of course, this is speculation. Again, it's just as likely that votes were being stolen on the other side as well.
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Fri Jul-30-04 01:30 PM
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Probably the only one aside from 2000 that can said to have been truly stolen!
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Fri Jul-30-04 01:31 PM
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and the whigs stole the election from democrat Andrew Jackson, that was the end of the whig party and Adams was one and out. One could argue that it was the 1980 election stolen by the piggies with their crooked deal on the hostages.
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Fri Jul-30-04 01:39 PM
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That one was stolen in the House of Representatives, through a deal struck between Henry Clay and J. Q. Adams. Jackson ran against Adams again in 1828, and beat him soundly.
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Fri Jul-30-04 01:48 PM
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I've been out of school too long.
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Fri Jul-30-04 02:26 PM
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11. Wouldn't say 1824 was stolen |
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There was no fraud involved...simply politics. Not the ideal way to pick a President but I wouldn't call it stolen.
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Fri Jul-30-04 01:53 PM
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9. How about 1968, when it was stolen from RFK? |
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Yes, he was murdered, but there was also a theft.
How about 1964, when it was stolen from his brother in a similar fashion?
And then there's 1980, and the high treason of the October Surprise.
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Fri Jul-30-04 01:56 PM
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And let's not forget every election held in the South between 1877 (the end of Reconstruction) and 1964 (the year of the Voting Rights Act), when African-Americans had their votes stolen before they were even cast.
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