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ThoughtCriminal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-30-04 01:39 PM
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9/11 Put Options and the SEC
While I was sleeping last week, the SEC reported that it had found no evidence that anyone profited from stock and options trading based on advance knowledge of the attacks.

http://www.forbes.com/business/energy/feeds/ap/2004/07/22/ap1466836.html
:wtf:
As usual, there seems to have been marginal coverage of this by the media, and no critical analysis of the findings. Given the record number of put options on UAL and AA and the fact that the profits were unclaimed, I find it hard to buy the SEC's conclusion.





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ewagner Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-30-04 01:41 PM
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1. The 9/11 Commission has
to make their findings public for everybody to examine.

My guess is that with the vast amount of knowledgeable people here at DU, a LOT can be gleaned from their findings.
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Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-30-04 08:09 PM
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9. Halliburton stock dropped like rock after Aug 06 2001 memo, 'til Sept 11
Edited on Fri Jul-30-04 08:12 PM by DanSpillane
In particular, does the report analyze trading in Halliburton?

I you look at the stock chart for Halliburton, the stock peaked, then dropped almost every day until Sept. 11th. When did it reverse?

The day the infamous PDB memo was went to the White House--August 6th.

What did the memo say which George and Dick read???

"Nevertheless, FBI information since that time indicates patterns of suspicious activity in this country consistent with preparations for hijackings or other types of attacks, including recent surveillance of federal buildings in New York.

The FBI is conducting approximately 70 full-field investigations throughout the U.S. that it considers bin Laden-related. CIA and the FBI are investigating a call to our embassy in the UAE in May saying that a group or bin Laden supporters was in the U.S. planning attacks with explosives."

http://www.cnn.com/2004/ALLPOLITICS/04/10/august6.memo/

(For next five weeks Halliburton stock plummeted)

Here is the evidence--note in particular, heavy volume on Halliburton stock a few days after the memo was sent to the White House:

http://finance.yahoo.com/q/hp?s=HAL&a=07&b=01&c=2001&d=08&e=11&f=2001&g=d
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Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-30-04 08:17 PM
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Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-30-04 08:20 PM
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Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-30-04 08:30 PM
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13. ...But the stock of Halliburton's competitor does NOT show the pattern!
Edited on Fri Jul-30-04 08:35 PM by DanSpillane
Unlike Halliburton, their main competitor's (Schlumberger Ltd (SLB)) stock did NOT show the pattern of dropping every day after the August 6th memo until Sept 11th!

http://finance.yahoo.com/q/hp?s=SLB&a=06&b=31&c=2001&d=08&e=10&f=2001&g=d

So some folks at HALLIBURTON knew about the White House memo, but not at HALLIBURTON'S competitor.

In FACT, HALLIBURTON is the ONLY stock in this sector which fell like that! i just checked other competitors!

This deservers more investigation--how many of CHENEY'S FRIENDS were making money based on the August 06 memo????
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Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-30-04 08:35 PM
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Jacobin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-30-04 01:42 PM
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2. Part of the general whitewash
In the months after the attack, there were numerous reports of short selling of those stocks which were way off the charts. Methinks some of Smirky's Saudi friends were the beneficiaries and it would be just too embarrassing to talk about this in the open.
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ThoughtCriminal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-30-04 03:58 PM
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7. What is lacking
in any of the stories about the SEC report is just how the #@&$ they reached that "Conclusion" and who the investors were.
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Trillo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-30-04 02:03 PM
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3. I remember reading an article about this in the last two weeks.
I believe it said that according to the 9/11 Commission, put options came from one source, an institutional investor, then to paraphrase, that investor was above reproach.
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ThoughtCriminal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-30-04 03:39 PM
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4. Want to bet that's Buzzy Krongard
Former CIA Exectutive Director appointed by Bush Sr.? That would explain "Beyond reproach".

Krongrad's firm was reported to be the one used to place the put options. Nothing to see here...move along...



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tom_paine Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-30-04 03:44 PM
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6. Yep, him or one of the other Imperial Retainers
Edited on Fri Jul-30-04 03:45 PM by tom_paine
"Above reproach" my ass! When is the Establishment going to wake up and SEE what a nest of VIPERS the Imperial Family is?

Because IF WE DON'T STOP THEM NOW, even if Kerry gets elected, and break the back of their power, the next time they sezie power in a Coup, they won't allow ANYTHING to knock them out of power

(though only time will tell if the Imperial Scum have reached that point NOW--LIHOP #2 anyone?)
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Scorpious_Maximus Donating Member (578 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-30-04 03:42 PM
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5. BULLSHIT

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Th1onein Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-30-04 04:31 PM
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8. That's a lie! There is still unclaimed money from those put options!
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ewagner Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-30-04 08:17 PM
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10. That's my understanding also
As I understood it profits were paid to those accounts but there was never any claim or withdrawal or any activity at all after that.
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